When Wings Cost Too Much, Just Say No (WOOM 06/23/26)

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[00:00:00]Darius: He was like, since what is 6 chicken wings? $16. Yeah, dude. I just don't order chicken wings at restaurants anymore. Cause it's just like, I'm not doing this. I, you know, yeah. We've had this conversation before at a bar, me, you and Louis. We were just like, I had, we have to start saying no to some of this stuff. Because no, I'm not paying you $22 for 10 chicken wings. I'm just not. I, there's no way. Your teriyaki sauce is that good. I'm not doing it. I'm just not participating in this. Welcome to Out the Trump with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's Deez all up in Ariel on all socials.

[00:00:37]Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan to be writing on all socials.

[00:00:39]Darius: Is our segment we call What's On Our Mind where we let you guys know what's on our mind, what we've been seeing on the internet, things we've been thinking about. Again, still working on a better name. Let me start off the top. Have podcasts made any group of people more unlikable than professional athletes.

[00:01:00]Jordan: I was going to say black people. I thought you were going somewhere totally different.

[00:01:07]Darius: I need them to stop doing them. I actually don't want to hear their thoughts on things. I just want to watch you play basketball.

[00:01:14]Jordan: You know, fight is crazy because like 3, four years ago I would have said I would disagree with you. But now I'm like, It's making me hate my heroes. Like, I'm like, literally, it's like Cam Newton, bro. I'm from North Carolina, I grew up in North Carolina. He's a few years older than me. So like, as a 17 year old, watching him do what he was doing in Charlotte, he was like, I got to us, you know, and watching him interview hookers and pretending to be charmed by them. It's just, it's hard, man. It's hard to watch. It is. It's, it is. I mean, and he's very funny. And like, it's just about him, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, you know, even like the whole, the athlete thing, especially NBA players, a lot of former NBA players, they all have podcasts. And it's like, Shaq can have a podcast. You know what I'm saying? Deke Wake can have a podcast. LeBron can have a podcast.

[00:02:07]Darius: We actually don't need to hear what Rashad McCants has to say about things.

[00:02:10]Jordan: We don't, we don't, we don't. He's actually really, when he's just talking about X to those in the sport of basketball, he's pretty good. But it's like when you get into the acting like you were like, Him post 2005 is nuts. Or you know what I'm saying? Or like dudes who were like, made a few all-star teams talk like they were Hall of Famers when a Hall of Famer walked in the room, you'd have to sit down and shut the **** ** because you know what I'm saying? You wouldn't be able to pop that **** like that.

[00:02:35]Darius: And then like this new trend.

[00:02:36]Jordan: It's getting hard to watch.

[00:02:38]Darius: Which I'm sure it's curated by.

[00:02:41]Jordan: Pat Bev got to be stopped. Pat Bev must be stopped.

[00:02:44]Darius: Yeah. In this new trend, which I'm sure is curated by the algorithm of these dudes. trying to convince us that 10s of millions of dollars is not a lot of money. It's just why, who is it?

[00:02:57]Jordan: And they're all saying the same exact thing too.

[00:02:59]Darius: First of all, who is this content for? Who wants to sit around and watch Rich Johnson's writing on taxes? I think that's the problem.

[00:03:07]Jordan: I think they don't know, understand, or haven't thought about like who their demo is because like One, there's nothing we can do about it. Two, if you gave me 100 million bucks, I don't think I'd fumble it. And 3, everybody has taxes, man.

[00:03:23]Darius: Yeah, dude, that would get so sick.

[00:03:24]Jordan: Why do they think that it's just, they're like, no, but you don't get it, because it's not really 100 million. It's 50 million after taxes. It's like, cool. So our 100,000 or $50,000 we make per year, whatever you make per year, you take out the, like they also have to do that.

[00:03:36]Darius: We all see our gross checks and it's just them that pay taxes.

[00:03:40]Jordan: It's just them.

[00:03:40]Darius: It's like, no, man, we got taxes and we got insurance and it's deduct.

[00:03:47]Jordan: Nobody sees the whole money unless you're, you know, admitting fraud. I don't get that. We talked about this a few weeks, like maybe like last week on Twitter. I think because a lot of them didn't grow up like having jobs, like when they were in high school because their job was AAU pretty much and getting their family out of the situation they were in, which I do understand. And that's a lot of pressure and ****. So I totally get that. And the hang around thing and how do you say that to your family? That's hard. I understand that. But it's also like, you know, I think they never got paychecks before. I think that was literally their first paychecks. So they literally don't, have never seen a pay stub before. So they've never seen like gross income, net income, social security, all that. Like they truly thought, I think they really thought that. Which is weird because then in the NBA, they have the rookie symposium and they tell you like, hey, don't go broke and this is how you don't go broke and all that stuff. I don't really get it. My favorite thing is that defenses actually.

[00:04:40]Darius: Even the people like pro athlete people who defend them, the defense is they're stupid. You're like, well, you got to understand they haven't seen the paycheck until they're 25 and they don't understand how things work. And it's like, that's your defense is that they're actually really stupid.

[00:04:54]Jordan: I mean, have you heard somebody's got string sentences together? Have you heard them talk?

[00:04:59]Darius: I mean, it's just either the defenses of athletes blowing money are like Like, you don't understand they're stupid or they just sound like racist as hell. Like, no, you don't understand. They got to take care of Pookie. And they grew up in the past. And I'm like, I don't think that's really true anymore. I think you're just describing stereotypes to them, not you, the role of you. And it's like, you know, I just don't, I wonder who it's for.

[00:05:25]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:05:26]Darius: I don't, like they're trying to garner sympathy from people. It's people, I think it was Lew Williams who said 5 million. It's people that's their lifetime earnings and they don't go bankrupt. Yeah. And you got that. I just don't people will be like, well, they got all that money when they were young. Okay, cool. I was bad with money when I was young, too. I get that. Right. But that's more money than people earn in a lifetime. So it still doesn't make sense that Just stop talking. I don't care. That's what the group chat is for.

[00:06:01]Jordan: Yeah. And the problem is, right. And the problem is, it's like, you know you're only going to play for max like 15 years for the most part. You know what I mean? Right. So, okay. You can't keep spending like this if you're going to only play 15 years, if you're only going to make that much money for 15 years. Like around year six or seven, you should be like, oh man, my career is like halfway over. I'll probably chill out with the spending and cut back and maybe look into some investments and all that sort of thing. know what I mean? it just gets to a point, like to your point about them being stupid. Like I was, there was a segment on the arena show. It's not like Gilbert's podcast anymore that he sold his **** now. He's not even on it. Crazy. But they're talking about the, you see the Time article with LeBron on the cover? He was named the most influential athlete of the decade. Sorry, century of the century and this century rather. And so they were like, he's, Rashad was like, he's been more impactful than like Kobe and Michael Jordan. They're like, no, this century. Like, he's like, but over the last 100 years, they're like, no, like this century, like from 2000 on to 2026, like, you know what I'm saying?

[00:07:11]Darius: Oh my God.

[00:07:12]Jordan: And they're like, baby, he's like, in the last 10 years, definitely more influential. They're like, but no, a century is 100 years.

[00:07:22]Darius: AJ Jabansa was on Gilbert Arenas' podcast. And he had to explain to Gilbert Arenas that Utah is a state and Salt Lake City is a city. He was like, yeah, he was like, I missed that. I missed that. He was just like, he was like, I'm not really, I just went to college there, but like, you know, I'm not really from there. And like, it's a city. He was like, no, it's a state. He was like, no, it's Utah is a state. And Salt Lake City is. And he just didn't understand it. My favorite rebuttal was Some guy, he responded, and he used the R-word, but I'm going to clean it up. He said, mockingly, he was like, $50 million isn't really $50 million when you have cognitive issues.

[00:08:05]Jordan: Yeah. We'll call it CTE. No, that's hilarious.

[00:08:13]Darius: Like 30 million isn't a lot when you spend it all, actually.

[00:08:16]Jordan: Yeah, that actually, and also hookers, there's that, because again, That's what a lot of they're blowing their money on women. A lot of it too. Like they keep leaving that part out, Or they'll just say part they're not saying out loud.

[00:08:28]Darius: When you after you buy the cars and the jewelry and the houses, I'm like, that's not in your contract. You don't have to do that. You don't have to do that.

[00:08:34]Jordan: You don't have to do that.

[00:08:35]Darius: You don't have to actually live like a rapper. You can just be normal.

[00:08:38]Jordan: Yeah, it's right. Because unlike a rapper, you can't tour for 50 years after you're done. You know what I mean?

[00:08:45]Darius: Here's what I want to say though. Go ahead.

[00:08:47]Jordan: So did you see the clip of Marshawn Lynch talking? He was like, I haven't spent any of my money that I made from football. He's like, I just, I've been living off my endorsement money for years. Like he's like, take those local endorsement deals with Toyota and your city, wherever you're playing at, and you can live off that for, you know, a certain amount before you even get to touch your NFL money, if you know what you're doing.

[00:09:09]Darius: This is what I was going to say. I was like, there's probably a strong sample and or selection bias. I don't know which one actually applies here in that athletes who are good with money would make for boring podcast hosts. So you just never hear from them.

[00:09:22]Jordan: Right.

[00:09:22]Darius: Correct. Because they don't, you know, they didn't have the wild stories where they were in Vegas doing crazy stick because they, you know, bought a house in suburbs and, you know, started a family. And so we're probably just only hearing from the dumb athletes. Right. And the overwhelming majority of them were good with their money. They just don't have anything to talk about.

[00:09:38]Jordan: That's probably true. I'm sure like Of all the players, by and large, most of them have not actually gone broke. what I mean? Especially NBA players. I also think, like you said, it's not an interesting story. And it's like, I'm going to go in there and say like, hey, I'm not homeless. Like, what's that episode going to be about? You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying?

[00:09:58]Darius: Like, Grant Hill is like, yeah, I married the singer girl that I was dating and we just like bought a house and I don't know, I'm still rich. Like, that's not interesting.

[00:10:08]Jordan: Yeah, like it's right.

[00:10:11]Darius: All right. You want to get into topic one.

[00:10:14]Jordan: Yeah. Jackson kind of leads into perfectly into well into where we're transitions well into what we're talking about.

[00:10:20]Darius: It's called programming, baby.

[00:10:23]Jordan: We do this. We do this for we're not into this no more. So I wanted to ask you if your life was a sports franchise, what stage or phase are you in?

[00:10:35]Darius: That's a good question. I. I guess I only really thought of this through a professional prism, but I had it the thunder in the sense that like the build was like arc, like great. And then you won the championship and then I kind of threw a wrench in things and I'm having to learn new technology And the AI is like the Wimby wrench. And I have to figure that out to get to the next step of where I want to go as far as professionally. So there was a wrench I didn't see coming. Like Wimby came out of nowhere. And it's just a puzzle that you got to solve. And I'm pretty good at it. But I guess that was the first thing I thought of is like, the best laid plans, you can't see a meteor coming. And like there's huge technological disruption. And You know, learning a new skill. Granted, I'm not that I'm in my late thirties, so it's just learning a new technology, experiencing technological disruption that you didn't see coming. I considered that like a wimpy to the to the program. Gotcha. How about you?

[00:11:53]Jordan: Still think about it, to be honest with you. I guess I'm I survived the tanking.

[00:12:00]Darius: Okay.

[00:12:01]Jordan: I survived the tanking. That was 2019 to 2021. made it through the rebuild. So right now I'm kind of in, I'm in the stage, I guess I'd say I'm made a couple playoffs, playoff runs or made a couple, you know, made some playoffs a couple times. Right now I'm just kind of in a stage where I want to, I'm trying to like stack together like consistent good seasons in terms of like becoming an actual contender, you know what I mean? So I'd say I'm probably like Like the Atlanta Hawks right now. Like I've done some things, made a conference finals, a couple years ago, took a step back, made a big trade, got some talent now, you know what I mean? Went to the playoffs, gave a contender a good scare, and now I'm kind of like, okay, where do we go from now in terms of building to where we're not sneaking up on people? We are, you know, making an impact and my presence is being felt.

[00:12:59]Darius: You think it's more like the Pistons, though, because you went through some taking years, but you got Cade. So you have a plan. You have a solid foundation. And I just got to do some shooting. And you know, you went, you beat the, was it the magic in the first round?

[00:13:12]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:13:12]Darius: And he took the caps to seven. And so I think it's more than Atlanta because you actually have a foundational piece, which is Cade. I don't think Atlanta has one yet. So that is, you know what, you're right.

[00:13:21]Jordan: That's right. That's a better comparison. Yeah, I'd say the Pistons then. Yeah, I'm kind of like, I had a schedule compared to the severity of the rebuild.

[00:13:31]Darius: Okay.

[00:13:32]Jordan: And so now I'm more just trying to figure out, okay, like what next steps do I need to take to get to where I really want to be? You know, I have my routine, I have my schedule pretty much set in place. I mean, I can make some tweaks here and there and be more efficient, productive as we all can. But I've kind of got a good system set up in terms of my life for the most part. And now I'm just kind of figuring out, you know, what What pieces do I need to acquire? pieces are, they're not super hard gets, but they are important decisions. And it's kind of like, okay, how do I get to the point where I'm a one seed, where I expect to be a one seed, and then I perform like a one seed, I'm just trying to figure things out.

[00:14:17]Darius: Detroit has a tough decision. Jalen Duren is dead weight and they got to figure out what to do with it. So who's Jalen Duren in your life?

[00:14:25]Jordan: You don't have to answer that. So their names are. No, I'm kidding. No, It's funny.

[00:14:28]Darius: It's Jalen Duren. Is it like a thing that you want to name? It doesn't have to be a person. Is there a Jalen Duren? You have to evaluate and figure out if this is part of the future.

[00:14:38]Jordan: Yeah, I'd say it's not so much a person. It's more so. I guess more so habits. I really struggle with instant gratification, which just obviously does not, that instant gratification has a really toxic relationship with success, right? But I have a toxic relationship with instant gratification. So more so just focusing on doing things that I need to do and not so much fixating on what I think I'm missing out on. because I may not actually be missing out on anything, but in your head you think you are. So you're like, I got to, but sometimes you just got to sit down for a little bit and just get your **** together, like I'm getting myself together. I'm better. I'm at a better place now than I was a year ago, which is the point, you know, the result. The work is the result if you focus on it enough, you know what I'm saying? So I like where I'm getting to. I've kind of been reflecting and just like, Taking steps on, looking at where I was a year ago with, my health and with the podcast and with just, my overall state of being. But I'm also, I got that Gatsby complex where that green light is always there. And so I can always go for it, but it's, you reach too much, you're going to tear something. And so I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, you know, figure out that balance. I've always had a hard time with like moderation. So I guess just like my keeping my priorities in check and not focusing on what everybody else is doing. I can get to be because I'm hyper aware. I'm hyper aware, and that and that makes it when you compare yourself to other people that makes it hard to really understand what your journey you're on because you're always looking at other stories. It's like, no, that's not that's not that's not my path. That's not my story. I'm not that character. But It looks cool to be that character, but that's not what I'm supposed to do. So just having trying to remember that is something that I'm really working on.

[00:16:40]Darius: And Instagram is not real life. So, you know.

[00:16:43]Jordan: That too.

[00:16:44]Darius: Other people are sitting here high. This is a good time before we go to the next topic, since we're talking about sports. AJ Debansa was the number one pick to the Wizards. Darren Peterson was the number two pick to the Jazz. And yeah, that's pretty chalk.

[00:17:00]Jordan: Okay. Yeah.

[00:17:02]Darius: All right. Next topic is mine. And so I there was a there's a debate online about people like as a child, did their parents use the N-word around them?

[00:17:16]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:17:18]Darius: I just for the purposes of this not being edited and all that stuff, we're going to say N-word. programming. But the people who were in Paris. Yes. And so did your parents use the N word in your home?

[00:17:36]Jordan: I've been trying to think about this for like last few days. And honestly, like for the most part, not really. Now we're kids at least. I mean, they may have used it in the course of like telling a story. Like, you know, I was this age when some white person called me this or.

[00:17:52]Darius: No, I mean, like, like we use it.

[00:17:55]Jordan: Okay, got you. Okay. I mean, for the most part, it was like, if I was with my dad at the barbershop, or like, if his boys from the barbershop were at the house, something like that. Like, it was never like, do your homework,. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was very, very sparingly for the most part.

[00:18:16]Darius: You know, I tried, I understand we're all not a monolith. Let me answer the question first. Same. It was, I liken it to just like a curse word in the sense that like, did I hear my parents curse? Yes. Were they walking around the house saying **** ****? No.

[00:18:31]Jordan: Like it's, yeah, certain words they weren't really saying very.

[00:18:34]Darius: Like I'm certain that they used it alone with themselves, but like, Right. I don't curse around people's children, Right. It's just like, I don't know how raised right. But I saw people say their parents called them like, what? It's like, again, we are not a monolith. And I'm not, you know, everyone was raised differently. And I'm always interested in hearing how it worked with different people. But No, I didn't. I have. I heard my parents say it. Did I as a child? Of course. But like you said, it was always in the context of like, if my dad's hanging with his brothers and they're drinking on the porch and I'm like, it was, it felt like I was like doing something risque being around the grownups and like hearing them talk and or at the barbershop or something like that. But just like casually around the house. No, not really. It was just, it was just like a curse word, you know? And so to this day, I don't even do you curse in front of your parents.

[00:19:35]Jordan: Yeah, I don't, man.

[00:19:38]Darius: I still don't.

[00:19:39]Jordan: We didn't, it was like a long time before we started, like, you know, in my 30s, so maybe like late 20s, if that. But like, it's pretty sparingly. It's not, you know, like, for example, like I was watching a March Madness, I'm a Carolina fan, and we were blowing that lead. And I was screaming, shoot it, ***** something like that.

[00:19:57]Darius: Yeah.

[00:19:58]Jordan: And my mom was like, are you okay? Like, she thought it was like cussing somebody out or some ****. Like, you know what I mean? Like, some **** like that. Like, I don't, I'm not just like, hey, mom, so this ***** said, you know what I mean, or whatever, you know what I'm saying?

[00:20:14]Darius: No, I, you know, my parents are churchy. You know, my dad's a deacon and my mom, they go every Sunday. So like, they're definitely, like, they're not, overly religious in the sense that like it drives their, social day-to-day social life. most of their friends are church friends, but they do regularly attend church. And so that adds a layer to it. And that's just like, I don't know, man, even at 38, I still won't curse in front of my parents. I think it still feels like wrong. I don't know.

[00:20:44]Jordan: But I feel yeah, I don't really do it often for the most part. Unless we're just having an intense conversation and we're all just like letting it fly. Not at each other, but just, we let the guard down, so to speak.

[00:20:59]Darius: Fair enough. You want to go into the next topic.

[00:21:03]Jordan: Yeah. Also, I just saw Caleb Williams is going to Chicago.

[00:21:08]Darius: That means Cameron Boozers went three to Memphis.

[00:21:15]Jordan: Let me check rounds. They do this. Yeah. Boozer went to Memphis.

[00:21:22]Darius: They're enough.

[00:21:25]Jordan: And I kind of feel bad for Caleb.

[00:21:28]Darius: It's be rich in Chicago. He's up there. He'll be all right.

[00:21:31]Jordan: Yes.

[00:21:32]Darius: I think he's going to be really.

[00:21:34]Jordan: I think he might be the best out of all of them, to be honest with you.

[00:21:36]Darius: I think it's Cameron Boozer. But, you know, time will tell what you got for this topic.

[00:21:44]Jordan: Oh, yeah. So I was. We took last week off for Juneteenth. Happy us, free us, give us free, you know. And I'm going to put this on the rundown for, but you remember that there's a video, famous video of Jay-Z with Dame Dash and all them at Summer Jam where he looks like a hostage where it's like blink twice if you're being kidnapped. And you can tell in his face, just like, I got to get away from these dudes, man. I'm too old for this ****. And then also just made me think of like everything Dan's been saying and doing for the last, 20 years. Talk about expert discernment. And it just made me think of like, when did you know, was there a specific moment like that where you were with someone or with a group of people or people or like at a certain place where you were like, yeah, I can't do this anymore.

[00:22:33]Darius: Yeah, man. Sarka, I left Minnesota in 2012. So this would have been. I might have been summer 2020. I went to a Chief Keef concert. And I just scanned the room and I was like, this is a room of people with nothing to lose. It was a Wednesday night. My boy Freaky Zeke, he shout out Zeke. He works in radio and promotions and stuff. So he was always getting us tickets and, you know, stuff. So this is Wednesday night back when I would go out there in the week and he's like, you want to pull up on Chief Keef and sure, what the **** else, you know? I just I just remember just sitting there and scanning the room and I'd be like, the amount of firearms that are probably in here, like.

[00:23:20]Jordan: One wrong step, literally.

[00:23:22]Darius: And that could be your last. Chief Keef, the club closes it to Chief Keef. He didn't get on stage. He was in his VIP booth. And someone just like handed him a mic and he leaned over the balcony and he did don't like three times in 15 minutes and sat back down. Drunk, high, whatever he was on a different planet. And I just, there was an energy in the area where I was just like, yeah, I don't think I can do this anymore. You know, there was a couple of spots I've been to in Raleigh. I won't name them where I just, you know, when you walk in and you're just like.

[00:24:03]Jordan: I'm risking it all right now.

[00:24:04]Darius: It's just, you're in, it's just a, and it's not, it's just, you know, you don't, you want to be careful what you say, because stereotypes are what they are. But you just know that this is a group of people who like, if they spent the weekend in jail, they wouldn't miss anything. Like there's no, they would not lose their job. They wouldn't lose their job. Monday morning they see the judge and they get out and that's just their week. That's just how, like it's not, whereas if you or I spent the week in a jail, that would be catastrophic. Like they would, it would be ruinous to our whole, because we have things to lose. And like you just can't, like when you have nothing to lose, your decision making is influenced by that. Like you're not as conflict averse. You just, and when you get into it with someone who has nothing to lose, You have, they don't care. Right, And so they don't value their life. Right. And so it's just, you gotta avoid those places. And so, yeah. That was one thing I liked about moving to the South is that there are, black places full of black people who have things to lose.

[00:25:15]Jordan: Yes, I can.

[00:25:17]Darius: There's not all the one saying that I can go to black events with like black people who are of similar ilk. Right.

[00:25:25]Jordan: I think that's part of why I loved mic so much. It was like, I can just be around black people. I'm saying that who have lives and futures and goals and families that they actually care about and provide for. So they don't do **** ****.

[00:25:36]Darius: It's just like, do you have to get up in the morning? Because if you don't, right?

[00:25:40]Jordan: Yeah, do you got to get up in the morning or not? Let me see your phone.

[00:25:43]Darius: Do you have an alarm clock set? If you ain't got no alarm clock set.

[00:25:47]Jordan: Yeah, that's that. needs to be like a new.

[00:25:49]Darius: You just wake up when you wake up.

[00:25:52]Jordan: Yeah, it's like, have you seen that? Those things, those clips on social media that have gone viral like having adults read paragraphs out loud. Let me rephrase it, not paragraphs, it's like 2 sentences and they can't read it. It's like people are like, we need to do this on dates now. It's like, you know, let's also add showing alarm clock apps and see how many alarms you have. Because that will tell you the caliber of person that you're dealing with. If they had one, there's one alarm. Cut it.

[00:26:17]Darius: If you ain't got no alarms, you just wake up when you wake up. And that's You go ahead to explain that one to me. Because even if you self-employed, own a business, you ain't got no meetings, you ain't got nothing, no contracts, you just wake up. Okay. Yeah.

[00:26:31]Jordan: And even on like weekends, I don't set my alarm so much for the weekends, but I'm going to wake up at a certain time because my body is used to being up between 7 and 10 A.m. You know what I mean?

[00:26:40]Darius: I'm not going to sleep or take a nap on the weekends. I have an alarm at 930 and normally I'm up before then, but like that's a hard out. Like time to get up. No matter how rough my night was. we need to get up and check off the gobwebs. How about you, man? You never actually answered the question. So sorry.

[00:27:00]Jordan: Oh, yeah. I mean, I've had a I've had a few instances out. Well, since you said we won't name names, I was there were it was the same place that we've been to separate, separate times. And I was saying that with some friends and they were like, we're at a post, we're going to something post game after a birthday party, whatever. And we were like, you know, near a certain Rd. in Raleigh, if and they're like, let's just go. I was like, guys, please, can we not? I was like, bro, I'll pay all of you. So we don't have to go here. And like, Jordan, it's going to be like, I'm like, no, guys, you don't understand, guys, guys. And they were like, no, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool. And we had a good time. It was fine. But it was like, you know, the whole.

[00:27:46]Darius: You can. that you are assuming there's some.

[00:27:50]Jordan: Risk, I like the whole time I was like, guys, I really don't want to get shot tonight. Like, come on, man. Like, the weed is so loud and just like.

[00:28:01]Darius: So y'all gotta be smoking in here. There's no way this is parking lot weed. Oh, for sure. It's so pungent, you have to be smoking in here.

[00:28:10]Jordan: And there was a dude walking around with a wife beater on and a Kevlar vest, literally just like the 50 Cent music video. I was like, bro, if you need to have that on here, don't be Because what are you, who are you looking for? Like what smoke are you expecting?

[00:28:26]Darius: Is nothing to lose, man? Well, yeah. That's what he left the house to do was to bump into somebody and hope it escalates because that's what you do when you have nothing to lose.

[00:28:40]Jordan: Nothing to lose. Yeah. Like I remember we were at the spot and I rented to a friend from high school. who do whatever, and they knew another guy that we know from the spot. I'll tell you off wax who it was. And they were having a conversation about certain organizations and using terms and ****. And I jokingly was just like, I don't know nothing about that. My dad hugged me. I don't know anything about what y'all talking about right now. My dad played catch with me in the yard.

[00:29:16]Darius: We can move on from that now. So I saw this prompt on Twitter and I sent it to you and let me know what you think. Name one experience that's been ruined. Well, name inexperience. You can get to name more than one. Name inexperience that's been ruined because it's too expensive now. And she says, I'll start live concerts, which I kind of disagree with, but nonetheless. She said, I still remember when you could see great bands for like 20 bucks a ticket. Let me just start. She's you can see bands for $20 a ticket. They weren't great ones that you know, you can still see a band for 20 bucks, right?

[00:29:57]Jordan: Yeah. She sounds like the people who were like, I saw Michael Jackson in the 80s for 40 bucks. Yeah, that I do. That is true. I've seen the ticket stubs. That's not what she's talking about. Right. You know.

[00:30:06]Darius: You didn't see Green Day in 1999 for $20. I don't believe you.

[00:30:09]Jordan: No, you did not. No, You might have paid. It was less for 100, but you wouldn't pay for ******* 20, 30 bucks.

[00:30:17]Darius: But what you got for answers?

[00:30:20]Jordan: So I had a couple. I wanted to kind of mostly go off the cuff with this one. The first one I thought of was traveling.

[00:30:26]Darius: Got that one right here.

[00:30:28]Jordan: All the fees. And then you have to use third party apps for hotels. Because you use third party apps for hotels, you can't cancel or reduce the time stays. That money's spent.

[00:30:39]Darius: Why do you use third party apps for hotels?

[00:30:42]Jordan: You can get points and stuff. It's cheaper than the actual hotel stay itself. It's just less flexibility.

[00:30:48]Darius: I book directly with hotels specifically because I want someone to talk to if things go wrong. I'll tell you.

[00:30:54]Jordan: Yeah, I learned my lesson. What was I going to say? the flights, that the flights are obviously much more expensive and there's, the fees and the extra bags and all that stuff. You got, Ubering to and from the Ubers when you're on vacation because you're not from there. They do all the they do all that weird **** where they'll take the longest way possible and **** to, you know, try to run up the tab on you. Yeah, I say traveling is the first thing that came to mind for me. And then the second