Stop Posting the Pedicure Worker (WOOM 12/09/25)

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[00:00:00]Darius: Welcome to Out the Trunk with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's Deez All Love In Your Area on all socials.

[00:00:06]Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan B Riding on all socials.

[00:00:09]Darius: We like to call this segment what's on our mind musings things we saw online. I just have one question before I start. Am I the only person that finds that when people make the post of them getting a pedicure and it's like a picture of someone who makes 12 bucks an hour to scrub their feet, is that, am I the only one who finds that off-putting? Am I the only one that was like, look, I hired a servant for the day. Like, look at this. And they have the person who clearly did not ask to be photographed and they're just like scrubbing their feet and I'm like, I can't be the only one who finds that off-putting.

[00:00:47]Jordan: Yeah, I think I personally would just do the after photo, I think. Yeah. So I mean, it can come across as elite. It's not that you like just ask the question.

[00:00:58]Darius: Like, are you a Roman prince? And like this.

[00:01:00]Jordan: Yeah, that's a little crazy. I mean, if they asked, it's fine, I guess, but I'm going to assume they didn't.

[00:01:06]Darius: I can assure you they don't.

[00:01:08]Jordan: Because just the, you know, language barrier. I'm going to, you know.

[00:01:14]Darius: Everyone has it too. And I'm like, I feel like I'm taking crazy bills. I find it so off-putting. And then like the person's literally just like on their knees, just scrubbing in.

[00:01:21]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:01:22]Darius: It's like, look, I get it. It's a job. It's a service you pay for it. But like there's something about like. the photography and the content. And it's just like this person is just like a bot in the background.

[00:01:36]Jordan: And it's like, I feel you.

[00:01:38]Darius: The nails aren't even done yet. They're not, you're just seeing feet in a bucket. Like it's not even about the actual art. It's just, look, I hired a servant today. Right.

[00:01:47]Jordan: Cause you can just flip the camera around and show you sipping wine. That would be just as effective. Yeah, it's a little, it's a little, I don't really call it tasteless. It's a little, ill formed, I guess. But I'll do one better. I can do one better. So somebody posted on Twitter or Facebook, whatever went viral. And it was like, don't you do it this year, guys. And it was like, when you feed, when you give a homeless person or unhoused person some food or money, please don't record it. And that's like the worst, the worst of all of it, of all the documentation that people do now.

[00:02:18]Darius: It's up there because it's like, look, there's a, they never take a picture of just like, The family who it might be a little tight that week and they're just popping by like the will put together. It's always someone on like Skid Row. Like.

[00:02:34]Jordan: Yeah, it's just like the worst.

[00:02:36]Darius: Like strung out with four teeth in their mouth and it's like they find the worst person.

[00:02:40]Jordan: Right.

[00:02:42]Darius: And it's just like, you know, take a picture of yourself, do a selfie, take a picture of your team, take a picture of things you're handing out, but like leave the actual people out of it.

[00:02:53]Jordan: The clientele out of it. I agree.

[00:02:55]Darius: You really don't have to advertise your good deeds.

[00:02:58]Jordan: Yeah. And then I always just feels, it feels icky to me.

[00:03:02]Darius: I do understand in that.

[00:03:03]Jordan: Virtue signal, but you know.

[00:03:06]Darius: I do understand the argument that it can create sort of like a social contagion. Like people see it and it makes.

[00:03:10]Jordan: Yes, that is a real thing.

[00:03:11]Darius: That is very much a real thing. There have been things that I've seen online, charitable acts that like kind of put it on my radar for something to do.

[00:03:18]Jordan: Right.

[00:03:18]Darius: But there's a way you do anything.

[00:03:21]Jordan: Yeah, right. Yeah. There's something simple. Like when I worked at a drop-through at Bojang's when I was in college, like sometimes like a person would be like, Hey, I'm going to pay for the next person behind me's order. Like, don't tell them whatever. And the person would realize that I was free food or I ****** **. And I'm like, no, no, you're covered someone for the person before you pay. Oh, does that happen? I was like, yes, you know, every once in a while somebody would do that and you'll get five or six, seven straight people who will, you know, pay it forward literally. But they didn't document it.

[00:03:53]Darius: So, you know, well, yes, that is true. Shout out Bojangles. I had them at the airport on my way out.

[00:04:02]Jordan: And yeah, they never let me down. Yeah.

[00:04:03]Darius: You know, it was honestly the best Bojangles I've had. Location filet biscuit, you know, so I want to talk about gym culture. Speaking of deep fried chicken sandwiches.

[00:04:14]Jordan: Speaking of junk food. So we're coming up, end of the year, people are rounding up to, make their New Year's resolutions and stuff. And of course, a popular one or a common one is, getting back in shape or getting in better shape, going to the gym, whatever people want to call it, lifestyle change, diet, however you choose to phrase it. And there's always those like gym snobs who post that meme. And it's like December, the gym empty, January, the gym full, February, the gym empty. And it's like, okay, That is why people don't go to the gym. That's why people are intimidated. And literally people are afraid to work out and go to the gym because they don't want to be judged or look a certain way or made to feel like you have to be in shape to go there to get in shape. I just really, really hate that stigma that people put on it because as bad as the stigma is of being out of shape, fatphobic, unhealthy, whatever you want to call it, it's 10 times worse because of the way society perpetuates the behavior because you're just encouraging people to more or less be out of shape.

[00:05:16]Darius: I agree wholeheartedly. Number one, from an economic standpoint, those people who it's like a cross subsidy. The reason why your gym membership is so cheap is because ten people pay and don't go. So you're being cross subsidized. So you should in theory want them there. But two men, you know, if it's if 100 people show up in ten stay, that's worth it. You know, like it's not. Arnold Schwarzenegger day one in the gym. And it can be an intimidating place. And, the more, at least the gym rats, I know they're not like this. It's often a very encouraging space. But no, I've seen those two. And, you know, I just don't know why someone would choose to be that way.

[00:06:03]Jordan: You just don't have to be that way. I've never seen anyone be impressed by that behavior.

[00:06:10]Darius: No, and it's, oh, they're so they're using the machine wrong or they're not benching enough. And it's like, dude, it's only a spotter. Yeah, if you get in the gym, that's half the battle. And, you know, I tell people, just show up. It all sorts itself out. Because if you just keep showing up, sooner later you're gonna learn how to do it and you're gonna learn the things to do and you're gonna get in your own routine and one day you're gonna show up and not even think about what you're doing you're just gonna start doing it and then that's that'll you know that begets dietary changes and lifestyle changes and you know you hit the YouTube and learn how to do this lift a little bit better and that's yeah I literally do that in the gym it just it all starts with just showing up though and You know, you see a lot of like, like fitness, Reddit and different advice threads. And they, you know, someone says the thread will start. What do I do to start? And people, very seasoned lifters will like list 12 different things. And it's like, just go there and move around. Show up, walk a mile tomorrow. And then the next day, walk a mile and a quarter. And because the diet is the really hard part, but I maintain that you're not going to take your, most people are not gonna take their diet seriously until they get to some sort of routine at the gym because it becomes like, you notice that you work out better when you don't eat trash and you start to see your physical changes and like you're getting stronger and then you look, okay, how do I get better at this? And then you, just my experience is that even though diet is the harder part and it's technically the most important part, most people aren't going to get there until they start a routine in the gym first. And so, But no, man, I hate those people. I hate the snobs. That's why I don't really like, I don't go to mass global gyms because I just, the culture around them.

[00:08:05]Jordan: Like a golds or.

[00:08:06]Darius: Yeah. Lifetime, the culture around them just tends to be a bit more, you know, suburban wine mom and I just I just I like my gym a little bit more rustic. So I concur. People are going to be in the gym starting January. It's going to be a little bit busier and just deal with it, Right?

[00:08:30]Jordan: It's not your gym. You don't own it.

[00:08:31]Darius: It's not your gym. You don't own it.

[00:08:34]Jordan: You know, they've just as much right as you to be there. They paid the same money you paid unless you got the special membership. And either way, you're still there.

[00:08:43]Darius: And it's, it feels good to see the transformation in people. Like there's, people who I go to the gym with and I've seen them over the years and they look great. And it's, we compliment each other and, we remember where we all just started and it's, it becomes a community and you can either be a positive part of that or you can be a ********. And why would you ever choose to be a ********? You know.

[00:09:05]Jordan: Right.

[00:09:07]Darius: So anything else you want to add about the, New Year's resolutions?

[00:09:16]Jordan: Yeah, so I mean, you're, we're both kind of in varying various places in our, journeys and stuff like that. So I wanted to ask you if you had any advice for, I mean, we talked a little bit about it obviously just now, but like any specific advice for like beginning Jim Gorge, anyone restarting or starting their, you know, their journey.

[00:09:35]Darius: You don't need like to do a full warm up or like you, I would. Incorporate some sort of mobility work into your routine. Just take 15 minutes a day. In YouTube, there's this YouTube channel, I think it's called Tone and Titan, and there's one called Squat University. And mostly because people drive everywhere and people work in office chairs all day. Everyone has really, really tight hips. Tight hips and their hip mobility is really low. And their range of motion is short. And that's how you get injured. And that's how your recovery takes a little bit longer. But your hips and your shoulders are two pain points. You don't as someone with a cranky shoulder and a cranky lower back. My best advice would be to incorporate you ain't got to do these all these things just like a couple of things 15 minutes hip mobility shoulder mobility just Do that in your cubicle a couple hours before you go, maybe an hour before you go. You don't have to do full warmups and avoid static stretching, do mobility work, like do things that increases your, increase your range of motion. And that would be my advice is, you know, hip mobility, shoulder mobility, and also lifting a lot of heavy weights is a little overrated. You know, your work, it's called RPE, I forget what the actual acronym means, but yeah, you should you should aim for your working set should aim to be about eight reps that are in like the eighth rep should be challenging to where you would lead. You could theoretically do two more, but you just right.

[00:11:15]Jordan: But you're not dead.

[00:11:16]Darius: But you're not dead. Like, yeah, eventually you'll get to a place where you want to work to failure and that's more advanced things. But just start with like getting a good three sets of eight that are where the 8th rep is challenging. So you wanna work your way up to like rep seven and eight are stressing you, but you're not gonna fail it. And then, try to do that range. People do 14, 15, 16 reps. And obviously it's better than nothing, but I would say the sweet spot is about 8 reps where reps 7 and eight are really challenging. You don't have to go in the gym and kill yourself, working yourself to death off the bat. And some hip mobility work and some shoulder mobility work is what I would say is a good starter kid.

[00:11:55]Jordan: Yeah, that's good advice because my lower back be killing me sometimes. So it's usually the hip thing is real.

[00:12:01]Darius: Yeah, it's like the source of your discomfort is often reacting to another place, right? So lower back pain, a lot of lower back pain is just stiff hips. A lot of knee pain is stiff hips because again, we sit in these chairs all day and we drive cars all day and our bodies are not supposed to do that.

[00:12:16]Jordan: So stretch every day is also important. Even if you're not working out, you need to stretch every day.

[00:12:21]Darius: Correct. neck stretch, hamstrings. Usually a lot of people have tight hamstrings. You know, just YouTube. That's a problem for me. YouTube a couple of personal trainer, physical therapists, and they'll get you some routines that you can do, you know, just body weight in your living room while you're watching the game on Sunday, different things like that.

[00:12:45]Jordan: So that's a good one.

[00:12:47]Darius: I was. Go ahead.

[00:12:50]Jordan: One thing I try to do is, kind of early in my restarting of the journey, I was working out a lot earlier this summer and then I kind of fell off. I try to make it like fun and try to make it almost like a game or like I'll, like a trick I saw, Michael B Jordan doing it, watch one of his workout videos. He was like, I count down instead of counting up. And it just, it really does make it seem easier when you're doing that for some reason. I like when I'm doing cardio, I treat that as like a vacation from weights when I'm doing weights, like a vacation from cardio. I'll do, if I'm on the StairMaster, I'll like make it a game. Like I'll do, I'll treat it like a level like Mario or some ****. Like I'll be like, okay, this level 2, I'm gonna do this level for three minutes. Next level, you know, 3 minutes, you know, make it a little faster. So on and so forth. So I try to, you know, keep myself like stimulated and give myself like a carrot on a stick when I'm, you know, working out. So that way I still, I have something to like look forward to in a sense, even if something that I don't really want to do. But.

[00:13:47]Darius: Something I like is like, we all have our, first, are you a podcast or music listener at the gym?

[00:13:55]Jordan: Music.

[00:13:55]Darius: Okay. Well, for me, it just depends. But yeah, there's like a handful of podcasts that are just like my favorite. I look forward to them every week. I save them for the gym just because it makes it go faster. I don't know the structure of people's gyms, but what I like to do is cool downs in between sets are usually For compound lifts, heavy lifts, I do 3 minutes. And for everything else, it's like 90 seconds. But I like to pace during that time. Easy way to get some steps in. Keep yourself moving, keep yourself active.

[00:14:21]Jordan: Yeah, that's a good one. I'll do I do audio books if I'm on the bike sometimes.

[00:14:29]Darius: I so weightlifting, I prefer podcast cardio. I prefer music because I don't act crazy about cardio. So the music keeps me more. It helps like So I do a little bit of fiction writing here and there. And so it helps when I'm in the gym in between sets. I can, I don't want to say fantasize because that sounds weird, but like go into the world and plot out things, almost like put myself into the place of those characters and plot out things and then dictate it in between sets. It's just a way to keep the pace going. But you know what I mostly tell, like, look, you're not going to enjoy it at first, but believe it or not, sooner or later, you'll start to look forward to it. And that'll be like the days you don't lift or your rest days, you'll miss it. And yeah, that's why I say you save your podcast for it, new album comes out, you save it for that. And you know, you just soon, it's about what, 19 times in a row to create a habit. And then sooner or later, it's just something that you... And you know, keep track of your progress, write it down because it's It's like you almost gamify it. It's like a video game, like get to this next level. If I'm lifting that, I can get to that next level.

[00:15:45]Jordan: I think taking pictures is important too, to track your progress and keep documentation. Like that one thread I really like watching, looking at a lot on Twitter is the, if you put yourself brick by brick, like post your, you know, results. So I just, sometimes I just scroll through that all day and just like motivation or I'll, you know, follow a bunch of, you know, fitness influencers, the reels and stuff like that. Like those, that's always like, okay, because I feel like, they say you are what you repeatedly do. I also feel like you are what you see. So I try to like, okay, I need to see it a lot so I can kind of get it in my head. So that's, you know, it's a regular part of my thought process.

[00:16:19]Darius: What I will say for the people is that you want to keep in perspective that most fitness influencers you see this is their job. Right. You know, like you.

[00:16:32]Jordan: And some of them are on steroids.

[00:16:34]Darius: A lot of them are on gear. A lot of them have borderline eating disorders. And just, you don't have to, you're not in there trying to, well, I mean, maybe if that's your thing, I'm not knocking most people in the part in there doing competition. You just, you know, want to look good, want your shirts to fit a little bit better and you want to get a healthier, you know, profile when you go to the doctor every year and you don't. have to do all of that to get there. You might get there depending on how much you're into it, but it's cool to look at those people, but it's always important to keep it in perspective that I live sick. I live four days a week. I work out six days a week. If you count cardio, I'm never going to look like those dudes on Instagram because I like beer and pizza on Saturday. And that's a trade off I'm willing to make. And that's cool. And it's okay if that's a trade off that whoever out there is listening is willing to make as well. Right. Because to have, you know, ripped abs, you can't eat anything. It's a lot of work. It's a lot, a lot, a lot of work.

[00:17:38]Jordan: Yeah, that's true. And also, like, I know for me, like, I mean, I grew up in 2000, so I grew up idolizing, you know, Hugh Jackman and Spider-Man, like all the super. I grew up in the golden age of superhero movies, you know, so you're like, oh, that's what you're supposed to look like or what you should look like. It's like those guys don't look like that.

[00:17:57]Darius: CGI. They did a weight cut before.

[00:18:01]Jordan: Yeah. They didn't drink water for three days.

[00:18:03]Darius: Like on gear. Anytime you read, who was it? It was Jonathan Majors.

[00:18:12]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:18:13]Darius: He's like, yeah, I put on 35 pounds of solid muscle in six weeks. It's like, Okay. Ain't that much chicken breast in the world?

[00:18:22]Jordan: By the way, so I watch, have you heard of this, fitness bodybuilder, his name is Larry Wheels. Have you heard of him?

[00:18:28]Darius: No.

[00:18:28]Jordan: So I was watching a YouTube video and he worked out with Jonathan Majors. He's like twice his size and they were doing like weighted, weighted pull-ups and like weighted dips. And Majors was like crushing him in. And I'm like, okay, you kind of got to make it a little more, a little less obvious.

[00:18:45]Darius: Again, his body is his job. Right. And he spends a lot on it. We'll put it at that. It's you know, it's funny because it's a male. It's understood that when women are scrolling Instagram with BBL culture, escort culture, that's not real life. And I'm very particular about reminding men that the six pack abs with 0% body fat. Right. And you see them out, you know, at some club like You're never gonna do that. That's not real life. Either they, like the, we talked about it last week, like the grooving gorilla guy. There's no way he can eat like that outside of filming and keep that physique. No. Like he's, like, but people will watch that like.

[00:19:30]Jordan: And think he's just chilling every day.

[00:19:32]Darius: Like that's how he eats and he's able to have that body. No, I promise you he's spitting that **** out as soon as you cut the camera off because. Correct. He just, it's impossible. Like you can't look at.

[00:19:40]Jordan: All those food influencers, they're just spitting it out.

[00:19:44]Darius: Yeah. It's just a lot of people don't know that the like TV was fake, but the internet is fake as well.

[00:19:52]Jordan: Internet is fake, yeah.

[00:19:54]Darius: And you know, it's understood in female online cultures that this can be harmful, especially to younger women. And to see all these supermodels with, you know, they're on the beach in their bikinis, it can be just as harmful to men and young men as well to think that you're supposed to look like you're not man.

[00:20:14]Jordan: I remember somebody once said they were like, they said that I kind of feel bad for Hugh Jackman because guys think he's, this like buff, like hyper masculine guy. And it's like, he's a theater kid, like, but he has to do that for these roles, which I'm sure he loves the roles, you know, but that's just what he has to do for work.

[00:20:32]Darius: He's not only does he hired a chef, the chef lives with him. The trainer lives with him. He can work out twice a day.

[00:20:38]Jordan: We can't because we have to work.

[00:20:40]Darius: He can work out twice a day because he doesn't have, you know, a boss that has deliverables. Correct.

[00:20:47]Jordan: His work isn't time stamped.

[00:20:49]Darius: He may be a father, I don't know, but like his children, he could outsource all of the labor of parenting so that he could focus on his body. It's, you know, it's always funny, like this is way, way off topic, but those couples, which couple was like Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, they were like, we've never argued. And I made the point.

[00:21:12]Jordan: That just is so unhealthy.

[00:21:14]Darius: I mean, they may not. I don't know. They may be a relationship, but like, you don't understand that rich people can afford to outsource all of the things that normal couples argue about. So like, you don't have to argue about you're not washing dishes when you pay someone to do it. You don't have to like if you're a regular working family and you have to choose between do we want a second car? Do we want to get the kids violin lessons? That's not an argument they have because they just buy both. Like, you don't understand how many regular marital conflict can just be outsourced with money.

[00:21:47]Jordan: And by the way, if my fiance is a billionaire, I'm probably just going to do whatever she says.

[00:21:53]Darius: Well, I mean, he wasn't struggling before he met her.

[00:21:56]Jordan: Fair.

[00:21:59]Darius: I mean, it's sure, but he was up a couple 100 M's when he met her.

[00:22:05]Jordan: Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[00:22:07]Darius: We'll pivot off of this. I was traveling this weekend and you know how you get into the hotel room and you're just watching what it's like old school TV where you're just kind of like watching whatever's on?

[00:22:17]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:22:18]Darius: Late night watching some family matters. Urkel was on the TV. I mean, I don't know if I'm dating myself with this reference, but family matters is a Steve Urkel show. For people who don't.

[00:22:29]Jordan: Know what that is?

[00:22:31]Darius: It went off the air 30 years ago, man. 30 years. Like 96, 96, 97. So.

[00:22:37]Jordan: Damn, that's crazy.

[00:22:39]Darius: Make a long story short, the kid was a brilliant inventor, scientist guy. in the way sitcom people can be. And I just had a question man came up to me when I was in the hotel room. I think Steve Burke was three greatest inventions were his transformation chamber, his teleportation machine and his cloning device. And if you could only pick one of those to have, which one would you pick? You're on mute.

[00:23:10]Jordan: You said a teleportation device cloning machine what was the other one?

[00:23:13]Darius: A transformation chamber okay okay yeah yeah okay yeah.

[00:23:19]Jordan: I'm gonna go with the yeah the cloning device for sure I just feel like I get me myself and I would get a lot of work done yeah my life would be so much easier.

[00:23:33]Darius: With Drake say how this working like he got a ******* twin though yeah To me, it's no question. Teleportation machine, man. If I could just never travel on a plane again and just teleport to where I need to go.

[00:23:46]Jordan: That's true.

[00:23:47]Darius: Sign me up.

[00:23:48]Jordan: That would make traveling much easier and cheaper.

[00:23:51]Darius: I will say this, though. I recently traveled. The travel experience has gotten much better just in general. I remember when flying on a plane used to just be miserable. And now, look, is it something that I enjoy doing? No, but is it Considering for a couple hundred bucks, you get in the tube and you basically get teleported across the country.

[00:24:14]Jordan: Right.

[00:24:16]Darius: Like every seat at the airport has like a charger now. And I remember when like finding an outlet in the airport was. It was murder. It was tough. And so yeah, I enjoyed that. But I would pick the transformation chamber or transformation. I'm sorry, the teleportation machine simply because I found the transformation chamber I understood the plot line, but I've just found that whole thing to be a bit weird. The cloning thing, close second, but I'd like the transformation or the teleportation machine.

[00:24:50]Jordan: So yeah, I feel you. And also, like, I mean, it's a cut sitcom, so it's not that serious, but that show really did not send any healthy messages to guys like, hey, just change everything about yourself to get the car of your dreams.

[00:25:00]Darius: After you started it for a decade. That's what I mean by a transformation chamber. It's, I hate the word, but it is a little problematic. It was like, yeah, you're the same person, but.

[00:25:08]Jordan: Dare I say, toxic?

[00:25:09]Darius: Yeah, we're going to make you cool and you'll get the girl of your dreams. And it's not how it works, man. If you, know, it's again, it'll never stop feeling like an audition. Speaking of audition, actressing, actress Kristen Stewart said something in an interview. We want to talk about it.

[00:25:28]Jordan: Yeah, it was really interesting. She did an interview with Time, I must say Time Magazine, New York Times. And she was talking about the concept of method acting and she tied it to like performative masculinity in a really interesting way. She said, I can't read these exact words, but she basically was saying like, have you ever heard of a woman that was a method actor? And she said, and she goes, she goes, you know, a lot of it is because they have to, I think they feel the need to do that because acting or having an emotion or, accessing free expression is not considered a traditionally masculine thing. So we have to like, all right, everybody, I'm going to like get in character now or, you know, I'm going to be this guy the whole day. You know what I mean? And she was like, because, you know, it's just such a submersive ideology that in acting is, you know, the stage and all that stuff is, you know, feminine that I think the guys for the need to they have to like justify it in their head to kind of make it seem like more important or more difficult. I must have said only a man could do that thing. I thought that was, first of all, hilarious and really interesting. Yeah.

[00:26:36]Darius: Who's the male lead in Harry Potter? I know his name.

[00:26:39]Jordan: Daniel Radcliffe.

[00:26:40]Darius: He had this comment in an interview, like **** a long time ago. And he was like, someone asked him about method act and he's like, you notice people only want a method act when they're playing an *******? Like no one's ever in a comedy like, oh yeah, I'm being pleasant all day because I'm in character. It's like, you only want.

[00:26:56]Jordan: Daniel Radcliffe is one of my all time favorites as a person.

[00:27:00]Darius: They're like, no, I don't believe in method acting. You notice people only want to do it when they're playing an *******. Like they're never like, this character is so pleasant. I'm going to go be in method acting this whole thing. Correct.

[00:27:11]Jordan: The most famous one that comes to mind is Jared Leto when he played the Joker in Suicide Squad. Did you hear about what he was doing on set?

[00:27:17]Darius: No.

[00:27:17]Jordan: He was sending, he sent. Viola Davis, like a dead rat. He sent like snakes to like Margot Robbie. He sent, I think, mice to Will Smith or some **** like just crazy ****. Like, and they, I mean, Will Smith and he said like, yeah, I didn't really meet Jared Leto until we did this interview today. He was in character the whole time. And it's like, no one's ever like, you know, no one ever said, you know, Morgan Friedman pretended to be God the whole time. He was on Bruce Almighty. You know what I mean?

[00:27:50]Darius: The other, the huge famous one was Daniel Day-Lewis and my left foot never got out of the wheelchair and ended up getting frostbite or something like that.

[00:27:59]Jordan: Oh ****.

[00:27:59]Darius: And he's a notorious method actor, but he does it for characters that aren't, like he did it for Abe Lincoln. Like he never stopped being Abe Lincoln on set.

[00:28:05]Jordan: Yeah, like some **** you kind of got to do. I get other ****. Like it's like, all right, bro.

[00:28:11]Darius: Yeah, it feels like a problem, a solution in search of a problem, like no one. But it is true what she said that it's not that well, she didn't say this. I'm now editorializing, but yeah, it's not that men aren't emotional. It's just we don't register anger as emotion. Right, right. Men are afraid to show their emotions. They're not afraid to be angry and angry is an emotion.

[00:28:36]Jordan: And that's the only motion men give themselves permission to feel in public, which is very bad, to say the least.

[00:28:45]Darius: I mean, it can't only be anger, but how I feel about me crying. So.

[00:28:51]Jordan: But there are other emotions besides sadness too, like there's a whole 1000 other words and adjectives and emotions a human being can feel.

[00:28:58]Darius: You can be happy.

[00:28:59]Jordan: Yeah, exactly. it is funny because I hear I watch a lot of actor interviews and **** and like, it's like, did you really need to go full method to play a teacher? Like, I don't think.

[00:29:10]Darius: You just wanted to be a jerk. Although I will say that if you've ever seen like a set, I'm sure you have seen like a set zoomed out to where like you could see it. I could see how it'd be easy to get out of character because nothing it looks really awkward. Right. There's 37 cameras around and You're basically playing pretend in front of 100 people.

[00:29:36]Jordan: Right. Yeah, playing make-believe doesn't seem pretty very manly.

[00:29:39]Darius: No, I get it. I get it.

[00:29:43]Jordan: Yeah, it's just funny between getting lost in a character and doing, going full method, like unnecessarily as well. So I didn't want to say that because I have seen actors talk about like getting lost in a character and having like, I think Michael B, he said he got lost after playing Killmonger. And he was like, I thought I was just going back to LA and it'd be cool. And I wasn't myself. And my friends and family were like, yo, like, I think you need to go talk to somebody, you know? Didn't that **** kill?

[00:30:11]Darius: The dude who did Joker in the Gay Cowboy.

[00:30:14]Jordan: Heath Ledger.

[00:30:15]Darius: Yeah, he, I think the...

[00:30:17]Jordan: Yeah, that's what they say. I mean, we never got, I mean, it was sleeping pills.

[00:30:21]Darius: I mean, I don't know if that was related to that or not.

[00:30:24]Jordan: Right. So, I mean, it's possible. I mean, although I did see an interview with Michael J. White, who he's the guy who killed when he put the smile on that face. And he said they asked him about how he was. He was like, dude, that **** was so overblown. And he was like, he was so cool.