Stop Networking Up and Start Networking Across (WOOM 01/13/26)

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[00:00:00]Darius: Welcome to Out the Trump with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's these all up in area on all socials.

[00:00:05]Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan. Jordan B. Riding on all socials.

[00:00:09]Darius: This is our what's on our mind segment where we, you know, let you guys know what's on our mind, what's going on the internet this week. Let me ask you a question, man. Are you an eclectic person?

[00:00:20]Jordan: You know what? That's something I forgot to bring up. I didn't text you about that. We can talk about this for an hour, **** ***. The layers.

[00:00:30]Darius: Can I have a minor defensive cam really quick?

[00:00:34]Jordan: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

[00:00:36]Darius: You knew what the **** he meant. Don't correct me in front of all these people, man. Like, when you correct people's grammar, you know, like, all these white people looking at you gonna tell me I said the wrong word. If you know what somebody means, it is improper to publicly like chastise their grammar.

[00:00:55]Jordan: So what you're saying is his vocabulary is not eclectic. Is that is that correct? It's not eclectic. I can't even he ****** ** my vocabulary.

[00:01:05]Darius: Now he did. He doubled down on it. And by the way, that's the word for it.

[00:01:10]Jordan: **** not like him. I was tweeting with some people out there and I said it gave off when the classic tech clown gets picked on to read out loud. That was the vibe I got with because first of all, If you go back, because I watched the clip like 30 times, it was just so funny and interesting. The stress in his face when she said, describe your fashion sense, and then she said, with an adjective, you could see him trying to figure out, one, what does an adjective mean and two, what is an adjective that describes the way I dress? And then he says, eclectic. I think if he had said it quicker, she wouldn't even have caught that he mispronounced it, but he said it so slowly, she was like, say it again? And then he said, eclectic. I'm like, you should see that's where you fight, that's where you stumbled. And then she just, I didn't think she was obnoxious in the way she corrected him. She just, it was just, no, you just, it's, you know, eclectic. But then he doubled down again, like you said, with the, no, I made it up. I made-up the words.

[00:02:05]Darius: It's a cam word.

[00:02:07]Jordan: Yes. And the look on her face when she, when she crossed her leg and stepped back and was like, oh, let's unpack this. Like she, you could tell she was like, oh, I'm dealing with a really stupid person here. That was, that was just written on her face. And yeah, that was great. That was amazing.

[00:02:22]Darius: It was obviously cam is cam is cam. But what I will say is I do find it off-putting when, especially when it's very clear what they meant to say or, Fair. That's fair. Like I do find that off-putting when someone's like, well, didn't you mean so-and-so? And no, that's not the right word. And it's like, all right, man, like, okay, we get you went to college.

[00:02:46]Jordan: I think I would have, I either would have said nothing or I would have been like, Yeah, your style of dress is very eclectic.

[00:02:55]Darius: Yeah.

[00:02:55]Jordan: I would have sent it back to him so he could have sent it back to me and then, but yeah, no, it's obviously he'd heard the word before. He just had never seen the word in writing, I'm assuming. And yeah, but that was funny though. It was hilarious.

[00:03:10]Darius: True story. I mean, I was in my mid 20s before I knew it was hyperbole in a hyperbole. I was pronouncing hyperbole. So, maybe Cam read it somewhere.

[00:03:24]Jordan: Maybe.

[00:03:25]Darius: Okay. I actually don't think he's read that word. I don't think Cam has read something without pictures in quite a while. I don't.

[00:03:34]Jordan: Yeah, I agree. That's why I like watching him on his shows as opposed to first take because on first take he's trying to sound like the people he's on first take with. And that's just not his natural speaking. cadence and ability in his natural verbiage. So it's just, you can see him trying to sound smart, which just, it's not natural to how he speaks, not that he's not smart, but you know, it just looks like, it almost looks like, you know when you're doing like the sing-along when you're a kid and it's got the little circle above the words bobbing along.

[00:04:08]Darius: Yeah.

[00:04:08]Jordan: Like that's what it, someone looks like he's like trying to like read off a helipompter in his head sometimes.

[00:04:13]Darius: Who was the young lady? First of all, Cam's a great broadcaster in general, but who's the young lady who correct?

[00:04:19]Jordan: Oh, Lady London. She's a rapper. She's dope.

[00:04:24]Darius: I don't know. Let's see.

[00:04:25]Jordan: I want to say Atlanta.

[00:04:26]Darius: But I'm not sure that would undermine my point. Bronx, New York. Okay, so.

[00:04:34]Jordan: Oh, yes. Okay.

[00:04:35]Darius: I don't like when when when northerners get to correcting southern accents and southern words, it gets to feel a little Y'all the ones we left behind ish. Fair. You know, like it's, I don't think that's where she was going with it.

[00:04:51]Jordan: Yeah, that wasn't her energy.

[00:04:53]Darius: He did outright mispronounce the word. So that does kind of change it. But.

[00:04:58]Jordan: Because he said it twice. I think he made it so blatant you couldn't really ignore it. I don't think.

[00:05:03]Darius: No, they think up there, they think we all dumb yokels.

[00:05:06]Jordan: They do. They do.

[00:05:07]Darius: We just like get harassed by white people on the wall when we walk to church with no feet shoes on. Right. And that's my thing.

[00:05:15]Jordan: It's like New Yorkers or not her specifically, just a lot of New Yorkers like **** on Southerners, whatever and ****. It's like y'all let Puerto Rican say in front of your face. Like I ain't trying to hear that **** from you. Sorry.

[00:05:24]Darius: I just, I don't think that's her energy, but. No, My back gets a little stiff when they get to.

[00:05:31]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:05:31]Darius: Cause I mean, it would be different if she was like laughing at his accent, but she, he literally just. incorrectly.

[00:05:36]Jordan: Speaking of, everyone's talking about people laughing at accents, whatever. Remember when Cam got all that heat for saying that Brock Purdy was a game manager?

[00:05:44]Darius: Yeah.

[00:05:44]Jordan: And every media member **** on him and called him everything but a stupid pretty much. And I wouldn't say that, but I guess when they cut up all the media members, it just looked crazy. And then they started talking about the way he pronounced Brock Purdy's last name. He said he would say parody, but it's like, yeah, he's from southeast from Atlanta. Like, obviously that's his accent. Y'all trying to make it seem like he's stupid or he can't like he's illiterate or something. You know what I mean? That was when the time that did really bother me. Plus, I think we also just have a soft spot for Cam because of all the bullets he took.

[00:06:13]Darius: Because we're in North Carolina.

[00:06:15]Jordan: Well, yeah, well, of course we're in North Carolina and because of all the heat he took, you know, as a player, you know what I'm saying, got **** for the way he dressed, but praised Joe Burrow for that, you know what I'm saying? **** like that.

[00:06:28]Darius: I will say that his mispronunciation of party and his mispronunciation of eclectic is to the right person is just tomato, tomato. You just like the girl who said this. Right. Well, that's fair.

[00:06:41]Jordan: I do love Lady Lynn. I do. You just, hello.

[00:06:44]Darius: She's not a white person, so you didn't see it for what it was, but she was 100.

[00:06:48]Jordan: That's fair.

[00:06:49]Darius: It just depends on how you want to interpret it. But Cam.

[00:06:54]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:06:55]Darius: Can't just, you can't double down. Just like, oh **** yeah, you're right. I just, you know, I just mispronounce the word. It happens, man. You talk into a hot mic for three hours. You're not gonna land every word.

[00:07:04]Jordan: You're not gonna land everything perfectly. Cause you can cut up anybody and they can sound stupid if they talk long enough, you know? But I will say, I think part of the reason people were laughing so much at it is because he has a tends to have like women on his podcast and he'll kind of, mansplain and talk down a little bit at times and stuff. So I think if people were kind of happy, not happy, but they took a little bit of joy out of seeing him get his comeuppance on this.

[00:07:29]Darius: I mean, listen, he walked right into it and he's a grown man. He's a big boy. He can handle it. But it was certainly funny. I certainly laughed.

[00:07:39]Jordan: That **** took me clean out.

[00:07:40]Darius: It's just, you know, when the Northerners get to picking on accents, my spidey senses start tingling.

[00:07:46]Jordan: No, I feel, I get you.

[00:07:48]Darius: All right, relationship topic. What you got?

[00:07:54]Jordan: Friendship.

[00:07:54]Darius: It is for the crowd. It does say friendship.

[00:07:58]Jordan: Yeah. So I was scrolling TikTok and this guy made TikTok and went viral and he was saying people tend to take their friends for granted.

[00:08:06]Darius: Yeah.

[00:08:07]Jordan: And not in a malicious way, but just, you know, you kind of, you see them every day, you talk to them all the time, you kind of forget why you have them in your life at times and stuff like that. And he was kind of saying, you know, a lot of my, you have to, Approach your friendship as though you believe that they're legends in the making from the standpoint of they have goals and dreams that they're working to accomplish. And they may or may not do that, but you want to make sure to always support them. One, because they're your friend. And 2, just like, you know, believing in the people around you, essentially. And it just reminded me of something that Issa Rae once said, when she was talking about networking. And she said a lot of people approach networking, she didn't say this, but I'm going to say it. It's basically **** **** riding, you know what I'm saying? You want to attach someone else coattails or you want to attach your name to a bigger name than you. And she was saying, I want to network with ********.

[00:08:51]Darius: Like networking is not come in my section in the club and have some drinks. Like that's correct.

[00:08:55]Jordan: Yes. There's that too. Yeah.

[00:08:56]Darius: That's just partying.

[00:08:57]Jordan: Yeah. That's just, that's just being a groupie.

[00:09:00]Darius: Yeah. Like it's not.

[00:09:01]Jordan: And yeah. And she was saying, you know, you want to network horizontally, meaning, you know, network with the people on your level. You know what I'm saying? Like, as an example, like obviously we have this podcast, there are other podcasts we're going to work with that people that we know be horizontally. We're not DMing, you know, broken and ****. Yeah, Like, you know what I'm saying? Asking to go in their pods or have them come on stream or, you know, pod with us, whatever. Not that we wouldn't, but it's just, you know what I'm saying? And I just, I really like that, the ideology. That's something I try to do a lot in my life and support and share the things, you know, of people in my life that are going for goals and, you know, making art, things of that nature. I know for me as an artist, it gets frustrating when you see people like liking and sharing **** of like, that they don't know, people that they don't know, and then they don't like and share like your **** not that they're obligated to, but it's like, you can kind of make a mental note, whatever. And then, or there'll be this thing where people will talk to you about the things they see you doing on social media, but they don't actually comment or like or share anything on the app, but in your life they'll talk to you about it, things of that nature. So I wanted to kind of get your perspective on that.

[00:10:13]Darius: I wholeheartedly agree with networking horizontally. It's not really networking if the person you're trying to link with has no gain. Like that's just, that's just you asking for a favor. Networking almost exists horizontally in the sense that, you know, if we were to go on another pod, that would bring us their viewers and likewise. And the different perspectives or, I might see the way they come in and out of a segment that I didn't, I wouldn't bite it 100%, but technically, you would see how they navigate it. So yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. Because if you only really engage with people like above your level, you're not really, you're just, you're trying to skip steps. You know, like, you know, when Issa Rae went to cast, For insecure, you know, she didn't call Halle Berry and Denzel. Right. You know, those people would have been too old, but you know what I mean. She didn't call Michael B. Jordan or established stars. She wouldn't got people you never know. Yeah. Because that made the show more organic and that she obviously could have won. I don't know the time what her pull was for casting, but well, she had a HBO deal.

[00:11:26]Jordan: I mean, she could have.

[00:11:27]Darius: Yeah, true. You know, but she knew and understood that the show would come off more real if all the actors and actresses were of similar fame level and had similar skill level. And, you know, we've said this before, but like you go watch Lawrence in season one, it ain't Lawrence in season five. He's just, he's, you know, he was a little, you know, he was an amateur for the lack of a bigger word. And yeah, so she lives her raps, which is great. And I agree. I think that's good advice to always, you know, network at your level and try to cross-train people, you know.

[00:12:09]Jordan: Right, yeah.

[00:12:09]Darius: Because again, once you try to go up, those people don't really have much- They're all- They're asking them for something, it's a favor. Whereas, you know, when you try to do it across your level, everyone has equal time and benefit from it that can come, so.

[00:12:24]Jordan: That's very true. And I also think like there is something to, Sort of like, some of the principles and outliers haven't finished a book yet, but just, what I've read so far is like, a lot of it is, who you are around really does matter, like cultivating the people in your life and who you work with, that really doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of stories in like, we're a movie podcast, so Hollywood's going to be a big example here, you know, like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, you know, and Casey Affleck, they lived together, they wrote scripts together, they ran last together, did auditions together, you know what I'm saying? They helped each other out on the way instead of, trying to attach themselves to a bigger actor to, you know what I mean, to not freedom off of, but at that point, what is a big actor gaining off working with you, Or like there's, so many stories of like groups of actors who were roommates when they first got to LA and they kind of, supported each other and, one would help each other. Tobey Maguire and Lee R. Big as if they weren't roommates, but if one got a role, they'd make sure the other one was in their movie type ****.

[00:13:24]Darius: Right.

[00:13:25]Jordan: Yeah, we're about to say something.

[00:13:27]Darius: No, it's just it's called in economic terms. It's like talent clustering. Yeah. New York City's comedy comedy scene is just every time you go out, you're just. There's an exponential benefit in a compound effect when you get people of similar skill levels and they cluster together and they work together. Right. You know, all of the tech innovations out of San Francisco. Most of the standup comedy comes out of New York City. Most of the acting comes out of Hollywood. And that just isn't by happenstance. It's because that's where all the people were. And you see like, you know, the output, the productivity and the output, you know, it's on steroids at that point. And so, because, you know, if you're doing standup, like, you know, Jerry Seinfeld would say, you know, I would go to a club And, I'd be 4th on the list and in front of me would be, and I'm not going to know the name, Robert Townsend and Keenan Ivory Wayans and, so and so might stop by or, and he was like, iron sharpens iron. And he's like, if I was in the bum ******* nowhere and I was the only halfway decent person and I got to feature for 30 minutes, to 12 people, like would I be where I'm at now? Like, you couldn't, like, you know what it's like to follow Keenan Ivory Waynes in, you know, 1982 on the state, you know? Right. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, talent clusters and iron sharpens iron. And that's why, like, what she said is true, you know? Look, look this way.

[00:14:53]Jordan: Yeah, like even if you look on the credits of Eddie Murphy's like Ron Delirious, Legends are all over that production. You know, Robert Townsend did the, directed the skid and I think the show itself. Keen and Iver Waynes kind of helped write on it, I believe.

[00:15:05]Darius: He was the guy who did ***** Domus on the Chappelle Show. He was big around there.

[00:15:08]Jordan: Paul Mooney.

[00:15:09]Darius: Yeah, you got Paul Mooney. Yeah, he was getting that scene.

[00:15:12]Jordan: He wrote with Pryor. He wrote some stuff for Pryor.

[00:15:15]Darius: Sinbad was around that time. You know, that's one of the reasons people think the music isn't as good is because we're, we just, people don't, Network that same way, you collaborate that same way. You don't sit in the garage and **** around on instruments with your friends anymore. Everyone is just going from car to school, from school to practice to home to do homework. And then they sit on their phones so they go to sleep. And there's just like no idle dicking around. Like when I was a teenager, I just like, once my homework was done, I just went outside and my friends just like played in dirt. I don't know that literally, but just dicked around. And that's how A lot of the iconic bands started. It was just like some kid in the neighborhood showed up with his guitar and like, let me get some drums for Christmas. And.

[00:16:05]Jordan: It's like over under 3000 said in his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame speech. big, great things come from small rooms.

[00:16:12]Darius: Yeah, it all started in that little room.

[00:16:14]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:16:15]Darius: A couple of years ago, headlin' in the low. I also want to say one thing though, calling back to when you said, you know, believe in your friend's dreams within reason.

[00:16:26]Jordan: Well, yes, within reason.

[00:16:30]Darius: I think I don't, I'm going to, it's young Miami is her name.

[00:16:35]Jordan: She needs somebody to be like, hey, tell your friends the truth. I can't believe she said two fingers touching. She raps like how Cam Newton talks.

[00:16:53]Darius: I was like, Shorty said, whatever, I am rubber, you are glue. Whatever you say bounces off me, it sticks to you.

[00:17:01]Jordan: Yeah, did you see her tweet where she was like, I'm sure it'll grow on y'all. And everyone was like, no.

[00:17:06]Darius: It's never a good sign when you release a snippet and within 4 hours, you're like, give it time. Yeah, give it time.

[00:17:12]Jordan: Because the time was the 10 seconds in the snippet.

[00:17:15]Darius: I never see Mary J Blige released. I can love you. She didn't, you know, Just kidding. Psych. RIP escort rap. You died in 2024.

[00:17:31]Jordan: Yes.

[00:17:32]Darius: You had your wake in 2025. 2026.

[00:17:35]Jordan: Yeah, and they got the pop-up. A lot of them popped off during the pandemic, but the prostitution bars are hopefully finished forever.

[00:17:41]Darius: Let's see rap, escort rap, and drill rap. I think they all died in 2024. 2025 we had a little weight. I think so. A little, a little, you know, a little bit more deep.

[00:17:52]Jordan: If it's done well, it's really effective.

[00:17:54]Darius: It's, it just doesn't move anymore. Like it just doesn't like when's the last, you know, they just don't, they're just not culturally resonate anymore. And like ***** rap isn't either. ***** rap, escrow rap, whatever you want to call it. It's just, I think people, it's just time for something new.

[00:18:13]Jordan: Yeah, The fellas in the ladies.

[00:18:16]Darius: Time for something new.

[00:18:17]Jordan: And also Young Miami hitched her boat to the wrong, hitched her trail to the wrong truck or whatever, however you phrase it. You know, she, first of all, she wasn't, she's not a rapper. She didn't write her ****. Well, obviously. And she clearly can't write well or read well.

[00:18:30]Darius: She paid someone to write that.

[00:18:32]Jordan: I don't know. She might have actually written that, which is why it was so bad.

[00:18:36]Darius: Oh, she didn't pay somebody for that.

[00:18:38]Jordan: Yeah. I remember years ago she had a line and it said, This ***** is wetter than us aquarium. And everyone was like, a what? She should have stayed with JT. But obviously that broke up. So yeah, her career is over. At least as a rapper.

[00:18:56]Darius: I wish her all the best in her endeavors. I don't think music is in the cards.

[00:19:00]Jordan: No, her talk show was kind of funny from the clips that I saw online. She should stick to doing that.

[00:19:06]Darius: I wish her all the best at home.

[00:19:07]Jordan: Yeah. We'll talk show, sorry, talk show is strong phrasing. She had a show where she talked in front of a camera, like the Angel Reese podcast type ****.

[00:19:18]Darius: You know, they basically reinvented the talk show. Netflix is just buying podcasts. They really have.

[00:19:24]Jordan: Yeah, I saw that.

[00:19:27]Darius: So I mean, there's a lane for some, I was going to call her a Gen. Z, but she's 31 years old.

[00:19:34]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:19:35]Darius: For some Gen. Z or to, be the new Ricky Lake or Maury Polich or whatever one.

[00:19:42]Jordan: Yeah, I like that girl. I like Ziwe. She's dope. Have you seen any of her stuff?

[00:19:47]Darius: Never heard of her.

[00:19:49]Jordan: She's hilarious.

[00:19:51]Darius: We should check her out. I will do that. One battle after another because no one's ever happy. They're mad that she won, I guess. I know they disagree with the character because they don't.

[00:20:08]Jordan: Right. And the character choices.

[00:20:10]Darius: Okay, fine.

[00:20:13]Jordan: But that's like movie **** you know, that's part of the discourse.

[00:20:16]Darius: That's fine. But now they're mad if you won an award for it.

[00:20:22]Jordan: I saw it, yeah, basically someone was saying, I can't, but somebody's tweeted, they were like, I can't believe, do you like black girls one? I mean, Basically the argument is that she won for essentially the Halle Berry Monsters Ball kind of role. That was some of the comments I saw. And then someone was saying, the awards that black actors win for playing, it's not even about the black actors, more so about the academies or voting boards, whatever, are usually always, not always, but are usually highly archetypal or stereotypical in their nature. So, you know, like, for example, Denzel won for Training Day as opposed to, you know, Malcolm X or the American Gangster or Fences, you know.

[00:21:17]Darius: What was stereotypical about his character at Training Day?

[00:21:21]Jordan: Oh, no, I'm just saying, I'm not saying he was stereotypical. This is a dirty cop. I mean, this, well, dirty cop is stereotypical. A black dirty cop is not.

[00:21:29]Darius: I guess so. What would make them happy? Because Viola Davis, I saw one for her character on Fences, and then someone was like, well, she was a heartbroken wife. And I'm like, do you understand that movies need conflict?

[00:21:48]Jordan: Yes, right. Okay, I've never seen anyone criticize that. That's weird.

[00:21:59]Darius: It's just as limited to say black characters can never play problematic people than it is to the trouble.

[00:22:05]Jordan: Because it limits the, there's already a limit on the roles we can play anyway. And #2, then there's no complexity there. Like there's a reason people don't like Superman movies because Superman is boring. Like, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, you got to give these characters, as actors call it, some color. Figuratively.

[00:22:27]Darius: I mean, Michael B. Jordan is never going to win for Creed. That's not right. Academy. That's not interesting. It's not. It's just, you know, Adrian Brody won for the brutalist last year and he was a Holocaust survivor who like, you know, he it was rough. I'll save the audience for spoilers, but like no one wins these awards for just puts in this 401k every week and gets a check and takes this kid to soccer practice. Like that's not what the game is. And this idea that people have got to, I just want people to be more imaginative about what's possible. And that fact that like, that's a good point. They cannot. consume content unless they agree with the morality of the characters on the screen. Just feels like a very limited way to view the world. It's like, and also it's just, do you need Tiana Taylor's character to break the 4th wall and go, and that's bad. Like, what is it? Like, I watched that movie. I never got the feeling that this was like an endorsement of her lifestyle choices. She ended her life on the run in Mexico from, you know, like, Basically, she ended up being a rat. It's just like, do you? It's like, what movie? What is it that you would want? Do you really need the actress to break 4th wall and be like, and that's problematic? Ding, ding, and then go back to acting. What are these people looking for?

[00:24:12]Jordan: And I think they're anglers. I wouldn't say the anger is necessarily invalid. I'll say it's displaced because the actor is playing a role, like they're just serving, they're serving the, maybe that, oh yeah, but also like they're serving the story, you know what I mean? They're not in control of who votes on whatever they decide best supporting actor or actress is, you know what I mean? Like Jacob Elordi won for Frankenstein, phenomenal role, phenomenal performance, phenomenal movie too. I think we should actually review it. But And his character killed a lot of people. But if you watch the movie, he's not just a raging lunatic murderer. He was acting like within reason based on his ethos. You know what I'm saying? Like you got to take into context the world that the character is living in, the world that the movie is creating. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the character in the story. I mean, I'm a fan of Teana Taylor, and I think she'd had a great performance. But yeah, of course I'd agree to scream with pretty much everything her character did. But that's like the point of that's you're supposed to feel something about the movie. You're supposed to take something away from the movie. You know what I mean?

[00:25:23]Darius: You know, I honestly, I think it's like the marvelification of the movie industry. People just want good guys on the left side, bad guys on the right side, and they want clear, easy things that they can root for. Anything that muddles that they just think is bad. there's this tweet. It's guy, underscore Z. He says, seems like a problem with representation in art is that characters can't just be characters. They have to stand as avatars and role models for an entire group of people so that they can't behave badly, which is just as limiting as ridiculous as turning them into tropes. You know, I just I agree with that wholeheartedly. And I just want people And I say this flippantly, but I'm getting kind of serious. Like TV isn't real. Movies aren't real. Like this isn't fiction and you don't have to like identify or emotionally agree or anything with the characters on the screen for it to be good. Now movies can be bad. Honestly, I didn't think one battle after another was all that. I thought it was different.

[00:26:22]Jordan: I didn't think that's my biggest gribe is that I think the movie is overrated and it's a long chase scene in a movie about pretending to be about something important. I won't say the movie's about nothing, but the movie is not as important as it actually, as it's trying to make you believe it is.

[00:26:35]Darius: Yeah, look, I thought it was regular good. I thought it ran long. I thought you're gonna cut a handful of the Leo not knowing the password scenes. I never really understood what the revolution was about. They never like, I think it was like the name of the group was like 775. They never gave like any explanation for what they were doing.

[00:26:55]Jordan: Yeah, correct. I think honestly some of them just wanted to blow **** up and pull it revolutionary, but that's just me.

[00:27:01]Darius: That's most extremists, but. Fair. I just feel like they just kind of. Once Tiana's character, spoiler alert if you haven't seen it, it's on Max, but once her character gets arrested and flips and runs off, they just kind of gave up on a story and just made it to really the right way.

[00:27:19]Jordan: She just like wasn't in the movie anymore and there was never really an explanation after that.

[00:27:24]Darius: I don't think she would even qualify for supporting. Like honestly, the little mixed girl was more supporting actress than me.

[00:27:29]Jordan: Thank you. Chase Infinity stole the show. I don't understand why Tiano was nominated. No offense.

[00:27:33]Darius: She's in the movie for 20 minutes, crowd audience.

[00:27:36]Jordan: That's literally 15 minutes, **** ***. And this wasn't no Sons of Lamb **** where Anthony Hawkins was on screen for 8 minutes, but he was the reason everyone remembers the movie. You know what I mean? This was not that. So I didn't really get the hype of their performance. Like, I remember seeing interviews and everyone was like, oh my gosh, she's probably going to win an Oscar nomination or win an Oscar for this. And I'm like, okay, so I'm going to it thinking this is like a career defining performance. And I'm like, where's she at for the rest of the movie?

[00:28:02]Darius: Yeah. She was billed as the co-star of the movie.

[00:28:06]Jordan: Linchpin of the movie. Yeah.

[00:28:08]Darius: And I do think her performance was great. And what ****** me off is we didn't get enough of it.

[00:28:13]Jordan: Yes, exactly. And Regina Hall, I don't think we got enough of her. She was ******* phenomenal.

[00:28:18]Darius: but that was a character role. That was a bit role. It wasn't built. It's like Tiana Taylor's character was on the ******* poster, you know? And that's what was annoying.

[00:28:28]Jordan: I also think the movie was misbranded because they I took the trailer to mean that it was like a hard hitting drama and it was basically like a black comedy. Yeah.

[00:28:38]Darius: So I enjoyed it for what it was. It is it's 2 1/2 hours, but it's a breezy 2 1/2 hours. It only gets long in the middle. He doesn't know the password.

[00:28:50]Jordan: We don't need to keep hearing him listen to customer service all the time.

[00:28:55]Darius: Yeah. And then once he gets to the compound and he misses his shot, I was like, there's 20 minutes here. You could have like, could have cut it out. So it's 2 1/2 hour movie. There's a good hour, 50 minute movie. There's a spectacular hour, 50 minute movie in there with some tighter editing. But that's the problem with these streamers is that they just don't edit much because, part of the benefit of releasing movies in the theater is the theaters need to turn you around because they need to make money. And so that put a limit on how long the movies could be. And so the reason why every movie is two and a half hours now is because no one goes to the theater. So it doesn't really matter how long it is. They don't have to turn to theaters. And so.

[00:29:36]Jordan: Correct. Yeah.

[00:29:37]Darius: Tighten them up.

[00:29:39]Jordan: Yeah, man, I agree. But it doesn't make me sad when I feel like it's about to happen to centers this award season. If I was them, I wouldn't even go to the Oscars. I would be like, **** this.

[00:29:54]Darius: Here's what I'll tell people. I say the same thing about the Grammys. To have a complaint, you actually have to watch all the movies nominated. You can't say a movie deserved to win if you don't know what it was up against. And the same thing with the Grammys. If you haven't listened to all the albums. You can't get mad that so-and-so album didn't win when you didn't even listen to what won. So do I think Senders was the best movie to come out this year? Yes. If I had a vote, it would win Best Picture. But what I will say is that one battle after the other was good. If I had legs, I would kick you. Very good. I have a few more on my list that I haven't seen yet. 00:30:37 J