Smartphones Are the New Cigarettes (WOOM 08/25/26)

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[00:00:00]Darius: The more stuff I read on it, the more I could, the more time passes, the more I'm convinced that smartphones are cigarettes. And in 100 years, they're going to, people are going to look back on us with our phones and our hands. Like we look back on those pictures of people smoking in restaurants. Like I cannot believe that's how people lived. Like they really like sat there.

[00:00:19]Jordan: Oh my God, they had smoke in here.

[00:00:21]Darius: Yeah, like they just smoked on an airplane and you know how we look at that. Like that's just insanity. Like they didn't know that they were killing themselves. That's how people will look at us, staring at our phones all day. Welcome to Al the Trump with Jordan and Darius, the podcast where two people started talking at a bar and never stopped. I'm Darius. That's these all up in the area on all socials. And I'm Jordan.

[00:00:41]Jordan: That's Jordan to be writing on all socials.

[00:00:43]Darius: It's our segment we've titled What's on Our Mind. That title is permanent now. So we are not changing it. It's already branded. So appreciate all of the suggestions of which there were zero, but we're not. But thank you anyway. The segment where we let you guys know what's on our mind, what we saw on the internet, things that we wanted to talk about. We always like to start, well we, not always, but sometimes we start with an opening salvo where we kind of, just find something under there we can talk about and let you guys know who we are. So sent you the graphic, we're going to put it on the screen there. You got six houses to choose from. Which one you picking?

[00:01:21]Jordan: Yeah, I'm going to go with house number six. It's got the house tub, wow, house tub, hot tub, mountain view, movie projector, wine cellar, hopefully house tubs also. Yeah, I love nature, just sitting outside, being outdoors. So anything that allows me to kind of do that is nice. I'm assuming it's got a lot of windows, which gives her natural light, hopefully an open floor plan. That's a little bit of architecture preference for you guys. Know a little bit more about me. Love a hot tub. Big movie guy, so movie projector is kind of a must. And then a wine cellar. I'm not a big wine guy, but if I have a dream home, so to speak, then I'll be hosting A lot. So I would need wine to host.

[00:02:02]Darius: I would say number six was my second choice. But honestly, it's. Well, I'll just say my first choice right now is my first choice is number four. Yeah. I will admit I will concede off the top that the big dog is kind of a net negative it takes away. But the other three are so positive that they kind of override the fact that, you know, big dog, I'm sure they're great and But that's a lot of work. And when you're building your dream home, you're thinking about leisure, not work. So start at the top with a swimming pool. Women love swimming pools. I could take them or leave them, but that's a nice little amenity to have at the crib, especially when you like to host and different things like that. People like to get in the pool and I like to be a good host. And so margaritas like to have margarita in the pool, nice little summer day. Good times, good vibes. I'm A tequila man myself. So nothing wrong with a little tequila and Kool-Aid, which is basically a margaritas are. Master grill. 90% of the reason I want to buy a home is because I miss grilling A lot. I'm a pretty good griller. I don't know if griller is a word, but I'm pretty good on the grill. And you know, it's when you live in an apartment, grilling has to be like an event. You have to It's much more of a logistical challenge than if you just have a house and you could just throw some burgers on. And so I would love to have that option. Big dog, I've already admitted is just, I can't really, I don't really care for that. So that would be my choice. My #2 choice would be the hot tub. Did you have a #2 choice?

[00:03:47]Jordan: Yeah, #2 for me would be. I go house 5. I like the idea of having different random things in one home, to kind of make it unique. So I feel like nothing's more unique than a garden, a library, and a coffee bar all in one place. I'm more of a dog guy than a cat guy, so I just have to deal with that. But I'd let them climb around the library. I'm assuming it's very spacious. You know, that's like climbing things is fine. Did do some gardening stuff growing up with my dad and my siblings. We grew like fruits and vegetables in our yard for a little bit. So that was fun. And then a coffee bar, great for tea, warm beverages in the wintertime, cocoa and all that kind of stuff. So you can't go wrong with that. And also who doesn't love the vibe of a coffee shop?

[00:04:41]Darius: I do love a coffee shop and I do love a fancy coffee. It's like I have a latte machine and I really only use it on Sundays because it's a bit it's labor intensive and it's the amount of caffeine I drink. I can't I can't make three or four lattes. It's just too much work, but it is dope to have. So just real quick, if you could pick one item from each row to build your perfect for for for collection of four items, which quartet. Yeah, that's the word we're looking for.

[00:05:13]Jordan: Yeah, I'll go. Top row, I'm going swimming pool. I love swimming. I love the water, lakes, oceans, any body of water I love swimming in. Number 2, I'm going, I go, I'm gonna stick with the mountain view. It's the most unique of those choices. Number 3, I'm gonna go with the fire pit. Be great for summertime, making s'mores, roast the marshmallows. You know, playing some music, smoking cigars out there with the squad or whatever, with, some friends and stuff. And then #4, I'm going, yeah, I don't have the patience for a dog like full time. So I'm going to go with a wine cellar. And I don't know what I do with a fishing pond. So yeah, I'm going to go with a wine cellar.

[00:06:08]Darius: For me, number one is swimming pool. I think that's of all of these, all 4, 8, 12, 16, all 24 amenities, the swimming pool is number one on the list. Number 2, I'm going with whiskey. I'm usually a tequila man, but I just feel like whiskey is a booze more befitting of, you know, my fancy home, you know, my warm and fancy home. Number three, we're going to keep the grill. Yep. Just feel like that's one of the biggest benefits of owning a home is that you get a giant, you can have a grill and a smoker and you can just, you know, it adds so much more to your cooking options and you know, we love options. And #4, it's between wine cellar and endless snacks. So I'm going to go with wine cellar just because I like wine. I don't drink it very often. just because I don't really keep it at the house and I don't really order wine when I go out because most bars have terrible wines. And so a little wine to let the crib, some fancy stuff with a steak from the grill. Who can argue with that? So I want to head into our first topic. Believe it's yours.

[00:07:23]Jordan: Yes. Okay. So what makes a good protagonist? I was actually talking about this with a friend at a party this weekend. I was venting about the show House of Dragons and why the season been a flop. One, because nothing really happens in the show. And 2, because the main character is profoundly unskilled and uninteresting. She doesn't make any real choices or decisions. She waffles over everything so she doesn't actually do anything. She has dragons, she doesn't really use them for the most part, or doesn't use them what they're for, you know. Not a skilled fighter, so it's just like, what are you, she's kind of the anti-Cerci's low key. So you got me to think about what makes a good protagonist in order to drive a good story. So I wanted to ask you about what are some of your favorite protagonists and what traits do you value the most in a protagonist in a story?

[00:08:14]Darius: Value the most, I would say, if I could put it in one word, it's competency. It doesn't I don't have to like you or dislike you, but I can't think you're stupid by and large. Some shows I can and it's fine. But I can't feel like the writers are keeping you alive. I have to feel like you are keeping yourself alive or I mean, some shows the stakes aren't that high, but you know what I mean. Like you're not succeeding because you were written to succeed. You're succeeding because the character as written would have made these moves and is smart and doing the right thing. And so, yeah, that's prior that's probably one of my, that's my most affirmative thing that I need. And the thing that I can't have is I just can't have an overly emotional crying protagonist. Like is a lead, is a lead man and you got like 2 cries before I'm out. Like I can't, I, you know, I don't really do too much crying as grown men. So what about you, man?

[00:09:12]Jordan: So I'll pick up about that, but I'll just go macro. I hate a weak protagonist, period. A protagonist that just is not willing to do what's necessary. I just have really no patience for them, to be honest. They really bug me. A protagonist who I need a protagonist who is interesting, who's willing to make a choice whether it goes well or not. You can always amend, not always amend it, but that's what, you know, life and story is, you know, I need them to be principled in whatever, not everything they do, but just have some sort of principle and some sort of code they stand on, because otherwise the choices don't make any sense. And I need them to. I do like a with some flair, some pizzazz, you know, panache, if you will. You know. So I like the little bit more flashy protagonists for sure. You know, Captain Kirk or, you know, Tony Stark, you know, somebody like that. I love those kind of protagonists, Don Draper, you know, but yeah, they don't again, they don't have to be like, well, I just have to want to watch them. I just have to find them entertaining. You know, I think that's what like, for example, that's what made Game of Thrones unique is that you didn't like most of the protagonists, but they were very entertaining.

[00:10:30]Darius: Yeah, the that's the thing. they have to be engaging. They have to have good dialogue. Yeah, they just have to. I have to feel like they're not being propped up by like the writers behind the curtain. Yeah. And just, you know, that's one of the reasons, you know, Game of Thrones fell off or got a little worse in the later seasons is Jon Snow just developed insane pot armor and, you know, can't really have that. Have you ever had a show where you didn't like the protagonist but you still liked the show?

[00:11:10]Jordan: Yeah. I'd say, I mean, I could go for like most teen dramas. So basically, Pretty Little Liars, Euphoria, Gossip Girl, any of those shows. You know, Boy Meets World. Corey was kind of insufferable. He was he was kind of a goody two-shoes know-it-all. He was a bit self-righteous. I always want Sean a bit more relatable. I'd say Big Bang Theory Sheldon is not likable. We just like him because the people in the show put up with him. So we feel bad for them. Transitively, we like them, like him, you know.

[00:11:53]Darius: How much of that is that people think, I mean, Sheldon has some sort of clear Like developmental issues. Yeah. I don't know the right word to say and I want to have to edit this later. So I'll just say that he's right. The elevator doesn't know the top flow.

[00:12:08]Jordan: Probably. Yeah, he's on a spectrum for sure. But I think even without that, I think he would have been an *******. I'm going to be honest. I think he was just an ******* who happened to have a developmental situation. I think who else? Who else? I'm trying to think. Sean from Psych, he was supposed to be immature. Like that's kind of the point of the, that's what drive the show. But the situation he put Gus in and the cops in by just like trying to go in guns a blazing, but literally with no gun, could be frustrating. You know, he'd be like, oh, I know you killed him. And they pull the gun and it's like, okay, well, that's why you don't tell them that because you know, you're not a cop. And he put Gus in bad situations too, because Gus would have to be the responsible one to make up for Sean's irresponsibility. So that can be frustrating to watch because you in real life, you would never do that to your friend and you wouldn't hang out with a friend who did that to you all the time.

[00:13:06]Darius: Speaking of think that came on right after my example, the show suits. I hated Mike and I love the show. So I found Mike to be an entitled brat who did never showed proper appreciation for what Harvey did for him. He always wanted to use the firm's time to like do cases for poor people and ****. And it's like, dude.

[00:13:29]Jordan: Yeah, he did. He did. This ain't that kind of law firm.

[00:13:34]Darius: This ain't that kind of law firm. And ************ when I found you, was about to get arrested for selling weed to low lives in like, you know, I gave you, we don't just hire shot of shots. This is the most prestigious law firm in, you know, in this fictional New York City. And you're treating it like, I picked up your tab at Starbucks, it's not, I don't care that you are mission driven. You don't, doesn't matter, man. I just felt like he never, Harvey was remarkably patient given what he did for him. And he just, the whole time I'm watching the show, I'm just like, I don't understand how Mike doesn't see, it makes sense how Mike could be that smart. and be that unaccomplished because he's just, he doesn't get it. He's like watching the show, I could realize how he ended up in a predicament that he was in because he's incompetent. Like once he got into the show, you could see it. And it just, I guess it kind of makes it wouldn't make sense if he did it right.

[00:14:41]Jordan: If he was just like Harvey. Yeah.

[00:14:42]Darius: But yeah, watching it, because if you're just like Harvey, he'd have just went to Harvard and, you know, with his intellect and, but just watching it, got frustrating because I just felt like he never understood. the gravity opportunity that Harvey was giving him. So that's my example of a show where I didn't really like Walter White, Breaking Bad, but I love Breaking Bad. That's always out there. Good one. I love Dom Draper, even though by the end he was a mess.

[00:15:07]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:15:09]Darius: The Wire doesn't really have a protagonist.

[00:15:12]Jordan: Right.

[00:15:12]Darius: It's just everybody. Six Feet Under. I like that dude. I think those are all my Pantheon shows.

[00:15:21]Jordan: Yeah, I mean, my favorite shows, Michael's, you know what, Michael Scott was a protagonist, but like, he wasn't always likable. That's actually, he's probably the most complicated protagonist in the history of American sitcoms, I'd say.

[00:15:37]Darius: Michael Scott is the office, right?

[00:15:39]Jordan: Yeah, because he could be super like, He had an extreme insecurity and people pleasing nature, but he also was very politically incorrect and could be a tool and, said sexist, racist thing sometimes, but you knew he didn't mean it, but so he was a pretty complicated protagonist and he could be hard to root for at times. Who else? Who have some of my favorite shows? Okay, so I'm rewatching once upon a time right now. It's a the concept of the show is basically you take all the storybook and fairy tale characters in history of like literature and they're in a universe and they get transported to the real world but they're cursed so they don't know who they are. And then eventually the curse is broken. And then they kind of just figure out their laps. Yeah. So it's like super dope. Like, and it has like a cool twist. So like, for example, like Red Riding Hood is a werewolf, you know, **** like that. It's really, really dope. And the main character is the child of Snow White and Prince Charming. And she's the child, the savior supposed to break the curse. But she's like traumatized because she was like abandoned because they had to they sent it through a portal to avoid the curse, basically, you know? And So she grew up with all these abandonment issues and stuff that she can't believe in anything. But when you're in a show where everything's built on these fantastical elements, the character who doesn't believe anything is just really, really frustrating sometimes. Even though you get why she doesn't believe in it because of the trauma of, you know, basically being raised as an orphan, you're like, bro, get it together.

[00:17:10]Darius: What streamer is that one on?

[00:17:12]Jordan: It's on Disney Plus.

[00:17:14]Darius: Okay. Yeah, I don't have that one. And I am done paying for new streamers with sports coming up, but it sounds intriguing.

[00:17:22]Jordan: It's dope. It's a really good show. It peaked after like season four, but it's a dope show.

[00:17:26]Darius: It's, oh yeah, I'm out. That's too long. That's too much of A commitment for me to get into. But yeah, you got any other examples?

[00:17:39]Jordan: You know what? I might catch some flack for this and I'm okay with that. Both the parents in good times. Okay, so here's why. Here's why. So James was stubborn as ****. And, you know, he's where the highway, but it's like, you know, my house rules and say, I get it. But your house is two feet tall. Like, he's up on the he's up on the misogyny, bro. Okay. And then also, like, not letting Florida work. We all in the hood and y'all are like half a check away from homelessness. That's crazy. Um, making these your brain.

[00:18:10]Darius: Schemes when you're half a check away from homelessness.

[00:18:13]Jordan: When they bought the encyclopedias and ****.

[00:18:18]Darius: You don't really get to chase your dreams when you have a whole family to feed.

[00:18:22]Jordan: No.

[00:18:22]Darius: That's not, you gotta give that up when you got mouths to feed.

[00:18:26]Jordan: Yeah, them not letting Florida work, but them making JJ work and using his money from his art to pay for them to take dance classes. Like, Doma gets a bed, the two boys are sharing a couch, JJ 62 in a plump couch.

[00:18:40]Darius: Well, I mean, that was okay, but like that was fine. Like they didn't do that on purpose. They did that because they had. Well, I don't how. Yeah, I mean, that's true. They I don't not well versed in the good times universe to really give a much of A take on it, but it is a parent's job to provide and they were not meeting that obligation to say the least.

[00:19:08]Jordan: Or whenever it be time for them to come into some real money, even if it maybe was not like the most ethical. I'm like, bro, you, I'm sorry. At this go out the window when you're in the projects. I'm sorry. That's just what it is, bro. You got three kids. **** them. **** the right and wrong. I'm sorry. I don't mean to. I'm not saying so drugs, but if you find them dogs on the road.

[00:19:25]Darius: You might need to. These kids got to eat, man. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, man. You're not making **** shake, but. No. Now I hear you, man. Do you want to get into the next topic? Yeah. So I'll be brief with the lead in because it's a bit wordy, but Chris Hayes, writer and cable news host, recently wrote a book called Sirens Call, and he has his take in there that I thought was pretty good and topical with Odyssey just coming out. And he's like, in the Odyssey, Odysseus is told you're about to travel through this area. And you're going to hear a sirens call from this woman that's so alluring, you're going to want to jump into the river and go after her. And he in Cersei instructs him to put wax in your crew's ears and tie yourself to the mast to keep yourself from following from heat from following the sirens call. And Chris Hayes has a take that basically modern siren calls are like our phone calling us for attention and the constant grabs at our attention and how our attention is monopolized and monetized today. And so you have to come up with ways to tie yourself to the mast to avoid falling for the trap of reaching for your phone. So my question to you is, what are some ways, what are some things you do to tie yourself to the mast when you need to focus or get something done?

[00:20:48]Jordan: Something that I do to tie myself to the mass, so to speak, would be anything that just like allows me to think less or have to make less decisions so I can just focus on getting things done. So like sometimes I'll listen to the same song on a loop for like an hour or two. That way I'm not looking for another song to scroll and looking for another song. Then I get to, oh, let me go to Instagram. Let me go to Snapchat. Let me go to Twitter. Let me get, you know, so it's **** like that. Let me just play one song for an hour. And that way I can just throw my phone away and, focus on whatever I need to do. That's one thing I do. Or I'll use a playlist. Sometimes I'll just, I'll like sit in silence or, and I, but I have like a white noise machine where I can select different noises and then I'll throw on like an ambient screen on my YouTube for like they have these like random like ambient feeds that last like Anywhere from like 3 to 24 hours and you can just put on. So I'll put on one of those screens and then I'll just focus on editing or working or writing whatever task, reading whatever task I'm trying to fulfill. And then if I get really desperate and I just really need like a hard reset, I'll just take a shower. Like I could have taken a shower 2 hours ago and I will go and take another shower and act like I'm getting dressed. And I'll just, it's like a hard reset for me. That's kind of like how I just start the day over. If I have a rough day at work, I took a shower right at 5:00 and wash work, work off of me and just like, listen to some chill music and then I'll, you know, eat, game, whatever. And then I'll go back to trying to be an adult or something like that. But yeah, those are a few things that I do to try to try to clear my head and reset.

[00:22:24]Darius: I have recently started to look for ways to get the information I need without my phone. So I recently subscribed to the Raleigh News and Observer, the actual print paper to be delivered. And so read the news on a physical piece of paper, which is wasteful and going to create a bunch of junk. But it's a way for me to get the local news. Also, I think the writing's better when it's in the actual paper. There's a style of writing for the internet that I find annoying because it's written for SEO reasons.

[00:22:59]Jordan: Right, yeah.

[00:23:00]Darius: And you don't get that in the actual paper. The writing is better. I'm thinking about getting a dumb phone, which is basically a cell phone that can just text and call. And I will probably install like YouTube music on it. And that'll be what I take to the gym so I can work out without being connected to the apps. And then I started so I lift Monday through Thursday, and then I go for a four miler on Friday and a two and a half miler on Saturday. And I've started Saturday, the two and a half miler to just no cell phone. And so I just like, just walk, you know, and it's hard at first. The 1st 10 minutes, you're constantly like looking for some stimulation, but you'd be surprised how quickly your brain just like resets. And just, you know, just trying to learn how to be bored again. And a lot of ideas come to me when I'm just on those walks. And I think you do have to remove a lot of the stimulus to get the creative juices flowing. Yeah, man, I just, the more, the more stuff I read on it, the more I can, the more time passes, the more I'm convinced that smartphones are cigarettes. And in 100 years, they're gonna, people are gonna look back on us with our phones in our hands. Like we look back on those pictures of people smoking in restaurants. Like I cannot believe that's how people lived. Like they really like sat there.

[00:24:29]Jordan: Oh my God, they had smoke in here.

[00:24:30]Darius: Yeah, like they just smoked on an airplane. And you know how we look at that? Like that's just insanity. Like they didn't know that they were killing themselves. That's how people will look at us staring at our phones all day. They're just going to be like, they did not know that they were literally I was scrolling Netflix last night because I just watched It was terrible. And I was like, let's see.

[00:24:54]Jordan: Is that about the friends who swap moms?

[00:24:56]Darius: Yeah, it's it was awful. Yeah, I watched that.

[00:24:57]Jordan: I watched that ****. That **** was crazy.

[00:24:59]Darius: Absolutely. Just terrible movie. And there was like a Netflix shorts. It was like 13 minute videos. It was like walking to Usher's home, walking to Kiki Wyatt's home. And I'm like, our attention spans are so short shot that Netflix has to do shorts now. Like we can't even watch slop for longer than 10 minutes. And yeah, man, I just, I can feel my attention span returning as I wean myself off. And I just think that the sirens call is really bad for us. And it's only, I just, I really, that's one of the things I'm I have my most conviction on is that 100 years from now, they will look back on photos of us out and about with our phones in our hands. Like we look back at people smoking cigarettes in public spaces. And so that's, those are the ways I do it, man. You got anything else for that topic?

[00:25:56]Jordan: Yeah, I mean, for me, I found like the best way to research is finding quick ways to do it. Like, I'll literally like, game for like 10 minutes just to like, okay, let me just do something fun real quick and then get back to doing what I need to do. So I haven't lost an hour or two or whatever. That's one thing I do. Like I read, but sometimes I don't always have the attention to just lock in and read for an hour or two. And I found that for longer books, even though I'm reading it, I feel like I'm not getting anything done because I haven't finished it, if that makes sense. So I'll read like a few poems or something like that. And then that gives me makes me feel like I've accomplished something. And then that motivates me enough to get whatever else that I need to get done taken care of. So finding short, small tasks to build up to the big tasks.

[00:26:43]Darius: Yeah, I you know, I struggle with that too. Like any book larger than 400 pages or like reading for more than 30 minutes at a time. But The more I get into it and the better I get at it, the more I think that those shortcuts just don't work. It's like lifting weights. You just have to lift the hard weights. So you have to sit there with that book. And even if you don't remember any of it, you got to look at it for an hour. And the next time you look at it for an hour, you'll pick up more of it. I just don't think the hacks work. I really don't. And so it's just like your brain is a muscle and your attention is a muscle. And you just sometimes have to strain. Sometimes you just have to lift that heavy weight and you got to strain it. It's going to suck and you're going to yawn a lot. But the second, the next time the weight's a little lighter. And, you know, I just think I think the people in general just need a little tough love about it. And no, you can't. You can't like hack your way out of it. You just got to lock in. And no, yeah, you can't. It was something about seeing that Netflix short where I was like, we really are just becoming dumber. Like, it was really a 13 minute video on Netflix because Netflix knows we can't watch something for, we can't watch an episode of a sitcom anymore. We have to watch a shortened version.

[00:28:03]Jordan: Yeah, no, that's real. That's why even like Twitter does those ****** AI clips of movies where they have that ridiculous voiceover while the characters are speaking dialogue. You know, or even like, I know, like I was with family. at a dinner like a few weeks ago when we were talking about like how bad our attention spans have gotten and I was like man.

[00:28:24]Darius: It's just funny though that like it took a long time and so and we it's like been like a 70 year but the moral panic over TVs riding our brains was actually right They were right all along.

[00:28:42]Jordan: They were, they were right. They were just 100 years too early.

[00:28:45]Darius: Yeah, but they're right. But it's like, it's funny though, is like getting older is realizing like a lot of like the social panic over like 90s trends, like Actually, violent rap music isn't probably a good idea for young men to listen to. Actually, drill music has not been good, and they probably should not be listening to that stuff. You know, **** is probably really bad for people. We probably should not, like, you know, TV's bad for YouTube. Like, they were right. We just need to be like, hey, you know what? We were, we were, you were right. You know, when C Delores Tucker told Tupac he was being disrespectful to women, she was right.

[00:29:28]Jordan: And when Michelle Obama tried to get us to eat vegetables, we hated her for it, but she was right.

[00:29:33]Darius: You know, like, I think the boomers.

[00:29:36]Jordan: And look at us now we have no FDA and they're trying to kill us all.

[00:29:39]Darius: You know, the boomers had some points and you know, I've lived long enough to see a lot of the 90s moral panics actually turn out to be true. So, you know, listen to the elders. Sometimes they have some points.

[00:29:52]Jordan: That's a good point.

[00:29:52]Darius: You want to get into the next topic.

[00:29:55]Jordan: Yeah. I don't remember even how I came up with this, but I was thinking about a honorable. So I was reflecting on this year and this year's been kind of tough and it has not really gone the way I thought it was going to go or had wanted it to go, at least thus far. So it got me to thinking like, I didn't want to get down on myself because I haven't accomplished or certain things hadn't happened the way I wanted them to happen this year. So I was like, okay, I got to focus on like what I want to happen for the next four months. Like what things do I have to look forward to? So I can kind of build on that towards next year, basically. So I'm thinking, what are some things that you're looking forward to or benchmarks you've said or just like a movie release you're excited for, you know, a book coming out you're excited for, something like that.

[00:30:42]Darius: Well, before it was Madden. And so I did not play Madden for like 10 years because it was just, I thought it was stagnant and it wasn't doing anything. And something that I've said before on here is that You can't complain about something and keep buying it because you're not, how are you signaling your displeasure? And so I stopped buying it and I got back into it last year and it's good now and I enjoy it and it's fun. And so that was something I was looking forward to. Currently looking forward to football season. That's kind of my time to shine. Just bought a new TV to add to the system and really looking forward to having my weekends programmed for me. Yeah. I just. That would be movies. See, the thing is, my big release was Odyssey, right? And so now I'm getting back into the groove of just like seeing the random things that I always like. I got we reviewed the drama. I don't know when it's going to release, but like. I saw that at home and that's something that I would have went back into the movie theaters and saw, but I'm going to try to get back into going to the theaters. But things to look forward to, man. Looking forward to season two of this pod. I'm looking forward to, you know, getting our getting back into a full production schedule. I'm looking forward to writing a little bit more and just I think the fall, the fall brings more structure to like everything. And so it helps you, it makes me more productive, which sounds crazy because, there's a lot more on TV, things that can distract you, but I get more productive in the fall. Because the summer is just, there's a, there's a leisure nature, leisurely nature to the summer that can, you know, consume you if you let it. So I'm looking forward to the, I've this, I've been lifting for about a lot, I've been lifting forever, but the last month I've been kind of injury free. And so I've been ramping up. Just really locking back in on the fitness kick and looking for, seeing the charts go back up is good. Okay. Yeah, just, trying to get more juice out of the squeeze of the day-to-day instead of just kind of, I'm just trying to attack more days, you know. How about you?

[00:33:09]Jordan: It's funny you brought up Madden. I actually was talking about Madden at the barbershop on Saturday with our barber. And he was like, I was like, bro, this **** is