Rewatchability, Elitism, and Getting Older (WOOM 04/07/26)

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[00:00:01]Jordan: Say, I think it's a Birkin to like Louis V. Like Birkin, I think is the one that has the scratches on it and that they're considered more valuable with the more scratches on it. It's either Birkin or Herman. It's one of the two.

[00:00:11]Darius: I don't even think Birkin would let me in the store.

[00:00:14]Jordan: Well, yeah, for sure.

[00:00:17]Darius: Brokey. I can't afford to out the trunk with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's Dee's I love the area on all socials.

[00:00:24]Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan B riding on all socials.

[00:00:27]Darius: This is our second one where we like to let you guys know what's going on, what's on our mind, what we saw on the internet. And I would just like to make a bold statement. We like to keep things honest here. So I'm going to say something bold here. In light of recent events, namely the Jay-Z Rolling Stone interview, I think it was GQ interview.

[00:00:49]Jordan: Yeah, GQ, yeah.

[00:00:50]Darius: And the LeBron James Memphis kerfuffle remarks, whatever. Yeah. Can we kind of admit that shut up and dribble was like right message, wrong messenger. I just feel like, I feel like there was a kernel of truth in that just a little bit. I just don't, I just feel like maybe she was kind of, she was the wrong person for the message.

[00:01:17]Jordan: Because it was, you know, racism. I mean, I get what you're saying. I mean, I understand what you're saying. I think I think that the two instances were a little different. I think LeBron was like, just like making a flippant comment. It was a bit of elitism, but it was it was not done in malice.

[00:01:38]Darius: A lot of elitism.

[00:01:39]Jordan: Yeah. Okay. A lot of elitism. Yes, a lot. But it was not it wasn't it wasn't he didn't **** on the people of Memphis. He didn't **** on the city. It was literally the facilities and one hotel. You know, I'm saying he also in the whole anti black thing. He also **** on Milwaukee's hotel. So it's not like

[00:01:55]Darius: I like to point out Milwaukee is a pretty black city though. Oh ****.

[00:01:58]Jordan: I thought it was a whiter city.

[00:02:02]Darius: Someone point out that it's whiter than Memphis, but it's blacker than Oakland.

[00:02:05]Jordan: Yeah, it's whiter than Memphis. That's fair. That's fair.

[00:02:07]Darius: Like Oakland's considered a black city and Milwaukee is actually blacker than Oakland.

[00:02:11]Jordan: Got you. Okay.

[00:02:13]Darius: My point was like Ryan Clark said something like LeBron's not an activist. He was just talking about, you know, like he's a multimillionaire traveling. And I'm like, well, he tried to dip his toe in activism a little while ago. Well, he does.

[00:02:24]Jordan: And he does from time to time. I mean, he speaks up, you know, when he feels compelled to. And I think that I felt like it was needed when he did do it. And I think that it was impactful in various respects. And I will say, I think there's some topics I've said I don't want to, you know, I think he knows when he's out of his depth, which is why he doesn't speak on certain topics as well. The Jay **** I think just, I just find Jay's interviews to be, to be like no value, to be honest. He doesn't say anything interesting ever. No. And that's no shot at him. I love his music, but I don't want to hear him talk about, he never goes in that detail. He never talks about the process. He never talks about the steps he took. He never, you know, his whole, you know, aura is I'm a businessman, I'm not a businessman, I'm a businessman, but he never actually takes you through the steps of him building

[00:03:11]Darius: No, I just, I was, I forget, I was, he said something in an interview like, I've never harmed anyone, which, you sold crack cocaine.

[00:03:19]Jordan: It's your mom and you shot your brother.

[00:03:21]Darius: And you did this to the community. I find it hard to believe that you were selling drugs independent of other crimes that like that's never happened before. You know.

[00:03:32]Jordan: Cause you gotta do one and do the other.

[00:03:34]Darius: Yeah, it's kind of like an all criminal thing. But no, so I was just like, I just, I was telling a boy, my boy, and I was like, I just, I don't want to hear anything other than his rap music. And he was like, it sounds like you're saying shut up and dribble. And I was like, I am. I get you.

[00:03:49]Jordan: Because, because. And I get it. I some people should just stick to their lane. You know, I mean, he's great at saying nothing. You know, he's excellent at word salad. I get what you're saying.

[00:04:06]Darius: He just doesn't have anything interesting to say about anything other than his music and his business ventures. But people want to know, what do you feel about the current state of politics? Or what do you feel about the halftime show? And I'm just like, I don't think he does, honestly. He's an apex predator capitalist and he lived long enough to see that go out of style, basically. And he just, he kind of, I don't, I just, he's, let me know when the album drops, bud. That's it.

[00:04:41]Jordan: I agree. I think he excels at being fake deep and pseudo intellectualism. I also think he excels at I won't say the form of activism, but he, you know, he's got the whole Basque aesthetic and all that. And he pretends like he's, you know, raging against the machine. But he is the machine.

[00:04:57]Darius: He's the biggest machine.

[00:04:59]Jordan: He's the biggest machine. He's a part of the biggest machine, meaning the NFL. Like, you know, even like, I mean, to me, that whole pro-black **** went out the window with him when he said in front of all the white people, we move past kneeling. Sir, that's not for you to say.

[00:05:11]Darius: Yeah, I just I don't I don't feel he's there's much there there. And every time he talks, people want him to be something that he's not. And he's just, he's just a really good rapper. And that's okay. An opportunist, a capitalist. And he's, you know, I don't know. At one point I wanted more out of it, but at some point, I mean, I'm pushing 40. There's just no there, I have to grow out of it. He's not, he's not my father, you know, like,

[00:05:44]Jordan: no, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[00:05:46]Darius: I think there's nothing there.

[00:05:48]Jordan: That's also the problem, too. I feel like a lot of black men really did, like, paternalize Jay-Z in a certain way, you know, and I'm not, it's not, obviously that's not his fault, you know, and it's like they met my school, the entertainers should not be the ones that we forced into these roles. But due to circumstance and institutional oppression, things of that nature, they've been forced into those roles to a certain respect and they shouldn't, they should never have been.

[00:06:12]Darius: Listen, man, you can walk into an HBCU faculty lounge, throw a rock, and get a smarter take on any **** than any entertainer, man. Like, for sure, 100%. We don't, there are black activists and policy wonks and educators and philosophers, and they can, like, Everyone can do their own thing. Like, agreed. No one's. I would rather than be like, what do you think about the war in the Middle East? Yeah, correct.

[00:06:37]Jordan: I don't know why we had to hear Neil deGrasse Tyson or Michael Eric Dyson or Ta-Nehisi Coates or Angela Rye or Mark Lamont Hill. Like there's a lot of people, black, excellent, black intelligence, intellectuals that we can, you know, learn from and glean from.

[00:06:52]Darius: I agree, man. I just, you know, I like. All I'm saying is the racist white lady on Fox News was just the wrong messenger. But yes.

[00:07:01]Jordan: And it was also on the wrong topic and the wrong cause. It was just, it was done with, you know, malicious intent. It wasn't even about, you know, the sake of the people. It was about silencing black witches.

[00:07:13]Darius: Like I said, wrong messenger. But can we just get like a black person on MSNBC to say the same thing so we can all agree that it's right? Sure.

[00:07:22]Jordan: Yeah, agreed. I'm cool with my entertainers just entertaining.

[00:07:28]Darius: I'm cool with my entertainer just entertaining. That's fine. It's okay.

[00:07:32]Jordan: I kind of feel the same way when I see Van Lathan on like CNN. Because how did we get here?

[00:07:40]Darius: You know, Josie Duffy Rice, there's Van Newkirk, Clint Smith third, like there's the long list. We can, the bench is deep. We don't have to do this. We can move on, man. I found a tweet. I wanted to, a tweet prompt I wanted to throw at you, man. What is, what's everyone, you are everyone, what's your most elitist opinion?

[00:08:07]Jordan: I have a couple. Okay. Okay, so I'll say my first one is I try to avoid public restrooms at all costs if possible. I don't know if that's like snooty or not, but I just, as the people would say, it gives me the ick. Okay. I also think that, I don't wanna word this, the hesitancy of private citizens the private citizens have with low income housing and or public transportation being near middle class subdivisions, I'll say is is valid. I've seen I've seen what's happened to like neighborhoods near nearby and and some degree in my neighborhood with when they put certain bus stops and stuff like that, the people kind of see at night walking around and jogging around in shackies. It's kind of crazy Yeah, Brad Creek's got a bit Dermy, if you will.

[00:09:13]Darius: Okay, I really wasn't expecting that one. Here's what I'll say to all the progressives out there. There's no pathway to getting middle class and upper people to accept public transportation or building for density or things like that without public order. So like you just, you're never going to get people with options to opt into these things. Right. If homeless people are like screaming at children on the bus. Right. It's never going to happen. I don't know what to tell you. So you can't be soft on crime and pro public transportation. It just doesn't work.

[00:09:55]Jordan: Yeah, I agree.

[00:09:57]Darius: It just no one's going if no one's going to get like no one with options is ever going to ride the bus. If it's chaos and disordered, it's just never going to happen.

[00:10:06]Jordan: Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. I remember I took we I was in Chicago one summer and we took the L train and there was just this lady there like screaming to herself Everybody was just like, yo, what the ****** going on?

[00:10:20]Darius: There was a viral video on a New York City subway of some guy just like screaming on a bus. Something, just something just insane and offensive or whatever. And some native New Yorker progressive was just like, You'll never make me afraid of my city. Maybe he's hungry. Has anyone offered him a sandwich? I respect this middle-aged woman with like two children with her to be like, Sarah, I hear you're having an episode. Would you like a turkey sandwich? Here's a PB&J. You know, that's funny.

[00:10:56]Jordan: That's a good one.

[00:10:57]Darius: It's just there's no pathway to it. No, I feel you. I'm a bit more. I am a MB. I believe in building for density. I think it lowers costs and all of that, but there's no pathway to it without strict enforcement of the social norms and social codes and like no. It's never going to work if no one's going to agree to building that apartment complex next to their house if a bunch of dudes with shices are going to be outside shooting dice all day. And I don't care what you say, there's no good reason for grown men to just be hanging out outside on the stoop for hours on in the middle of the day in the middle of the week. Why don't you have places to be?

[00:11:36]Jordan: Gyrating on this land?

[00:11:40]Darius: It's just, it's not a thing. It's like the Chris Rock joke. Like you could tell A neighborhood is good if it's women and children out walking around during the day, and a neighborhood's terrible if it's young men walking around. That's actually true. That is true. So I got a few.

[00:11:56]Jordan: Okay.

[00:11:59]Darius: Tyler Perry movies are low IQ dribble.

[00:12:01]Jordan: No, yes, absolutely. And I will judge you and I don't care.

[00:12:05]Darius: I judge you if you earnestly watch them. Like if you watch them while winking and making fun of it, you're lining his pockets, but whatever. Listen, I'm not sitting if you're watching Citizens Kane every night, you know?

[00:12:18]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:12:19]Darius: But there are people I know who just like watch them. It's like, this is a good move. Oh, the new Tyler Perry job. I got to check it out. And it's not a joke. Like it's.

[00:12:27]Jordan: Yeah. And I am judging you. Oh, 100%.

[00:12:29]Darius: That's a good one. You know, this is controversial because this is going to hit you a little bit. Audio books are not the same as reading books. I'm sorry. It's not. Okay, that's fair. It is a, it's a, it's not a direct substitute and it's still obtaining information, but you didn't read the book if it's just the audio book. That's fair. You know, you listen to it. I mean, which is, I get it.

[00:12:59]Jordan: You, go ahead. Yeah.

[00:13:02]Darius: No, that's it. It's like you listen to the book, which is not the same as reading.

[00:13:05]Jordan: I hear you. It's not. It's a different, different intake of the information. Yeah. No, I will say you're still, it's still the same words. You're still, getting the message.

[00:13:15]Darius: I think the brain works differently when it interacts with text.

[00:13:20]Jordan: It does. I think it's more of an attention span required.

[00:13:23]Darius: More of an attention span. You're more focused. You can't wash the dishes and read a book. And that's not to say that you're not, like I listen to podcasts while I wash dishes or whatever. But you know, how many times do you listen to 20 minutes of a podcast and go, I don't remember a thing that person just said. Right? Because I've just been moving around and stuff. So you got another one.

[00:13:45]Jordan: Yeah. Although ironically, I did do some research on the difference in terms of the information intake between audiobooks and reading. And it is a minimal difference. I will say that it is funny you say that, though. What's I going to say? Oh, yeah. So my one of my last ones, I think it might be my last one is I don't think I'm okay with the concept of college not being for everyone.

[00:14:11]Darius: Yeah.

[00:14:11]Jordan: And I don't think you have to be successful to go to college. But I do notice a difference between the people who have at least attended some form of post-secondary education versus people who have not. And it's not so much intelligence level at all. I just noticed that there's a, they tend to be more open-minded. There tends to be a greater ability to converse, to take in new ideas, to disagree without being disagreeable. And that's just something that like, you know, you don't notice until you until you notice it. That makes sense. You know, like a lot of my friends have, you know, have been to college. So we you don't really pay attention to it. And then when you run a lot of people who maybe haven't had the same opportunities per se, you do notice the the gap there.

[00:14:57]Darius: Yeah, I mean, class selects for itself very well. It's funny, though, because I find at least when it comes to to politics, The people least likely to change their mind are actually college educated progressives. You know, that's just my general experience. I've found that those are the most obstinate people when it comes to like their political opinions. Yeah. But no, I mean, there certainly is a difference. I don't think one is better than the other, but there is a difference. I'll never get on this new this wave of people. especially well-off people who went to college telling people colleges are necessary, because I promise you, they're turning their kids to college.

[00:15:40]Jordan: Actually, I was gonna say that. I was thinking about that the other day I was listening to TikTok. It's like, don't listen to what rich people say. Listen to what they say to their kids. And every first person sends their kids to college.

[00:15:49]Darius: Correct. They're not sending their kid down to be an electrician. And there's nothing wrong with it. But I'm always skeptical of people who never take their own advice. Yes. Right. Like the 10 years on Twitter where every man is trash woman was happily married or in a relationship. And it's like, you don't live your raps. So I'm skeptical. Correct. Exactly. Oh, like I just don't, you're saying one thing and doing another. And, you know, previous behavior is far more predictive of your desires than like what you say. And so, you know, Again, all the people pushing don't go to college are 100% sitting there to attend to college. So I don't, I'm naturally skeptical of that. Right.

[00:16:33]Jordan: It's like how all the rap girls are like, I don't need to do **** these, but they're all in relationships.

[00:16:40]Darius: Yeah. So I got another one.

[00:16:45]Jordan: Okay.

[00:16:45]Darius: And let me just say, there's no right or wrong to this one, but it is something that I've noticed in my years of talking to people.

[00:16:54]Jordan: Okay.

[00:16:55]Darius: Prince versus Michael Jackson lets me know who's a music nerd and someone and who just enjoys good music. It has literally never failed me. And there's nothing wrong with enjoying good music. The vast majority of people just enjoy good music. But I have found that when you put those two together, literally it's like the people who are music nerds almost to a man prefer Prince's music. And I prefer Prince's music and I don't think I'm a music nerd at all. But I've just found that is a almost a one to one predictor over like music nerds versus the majority of people who just like music. Yeah, I just I don't. It's I guess that's my elitist opinion, even though I'm not I don't consider myself a music nerd.

[00:17:44]Jordan: That's hilarious. So my parents are both huge fans of both. Yeah, I think My dad's probably a bigger Michael Jackson fan than he's a Prince fan, but he's a big Prince fan. My mom's a big Prince fan, but she also loved Michael Jackson. So I didn't grow up in a house divided, so to speak. I think I just, I don't know. I enjoy Prince's music. I haven't been through his whole discography. I mean, he had like 50 albums. I mean, it'll take forever to do that, but something like Liberty every year. But I'm more familiar with Michael's music than Prince's. I really have to go back and delve into it. But I'm I'm not. I'm not a a stranger to to his level of musicality. Any guitars from Tony Prince is probably the greatest guitarist ever, or arguably the greatest guitarist of all time. I do prefer Michael's voice personally, just sonically. But I love both, and I I like I've I've I watched the video of Prince playing the guitar and that **** like several videos from playing the guitar and that **** was magical. You know what I mean? It's like otherworldly. I do think Michael Jackson's musicality is slept on because he could also compose. He also wrote a lot of his hits as well. So he wasn't nearly the quote unquote product people kind of trying to make him out to be a times in comparison to Prince.

[00:18:55]Darius: Yeah.

[00:18:57]Jordan: And I will say for the for the Michael Jackson fans, I did grow up playing music as a kid and stuff like playing instruments and things of that nature. So I am someone who's a music nerd a little bit. I'm not a music theorist, but I do love Michael Jackson and I did play musical instruments. So I do want to rep for my dogs.

[00:19:14]Darius: It's just, again, Michael Jackson is not some obscure artist. Like it is an extreme minority opinion, but I just, yeah, I find my generally speaking, I find Michael Jackson music to be bizarrely asexual. And it's just like very neat. And I don't really like my

[00:19:37]Jordan: That's probably more Quincy though.

[00:19:40]Darius: Well, whoever. The music I put in my, he worked with Quincy, right? I like my music a little rough around the edges. I like my music a bit raw and Michael Jackson. Every song just feels like there's a neat ball put on top at the end. There's nothing wrong with that. Like it's just, it's just very, it's just very well crafted. There's like not a note out of place. There's not a guitar. string that just feels a little off. It's just, it's very, very neat. It's well crafted.

[00:20:08]Jordan: Okay, got you. So you'd prefer like, say I think it's a Birkin to like Louis V. Like Birkin, I think is the one that has the scratches on it and that they're considered more valuable with the more scratches on it. It's either Birkin or Herman is one of the two.

[00:20:22]Darius: I don't even think Birkin would let me in the store.

[00:20:25]Jordan: Well, yeah, for sure.

[00:20:28]Darius: Brokey. I can't afford a little Louie, but not the high end stuff. But I know Birkin, like they don't even let a lot of like actual rich people in the store. So now I do.

[00:20:40]Jordan: Yeah, we I remember we got my mom David Yerman bracelet for Christmas and woo, that takes a minute.

[00:20:49]Darius: Yeah, man. You got another one or that was it.

[00:20:55]Jordan: So I have the public bathrooms, low income, slash transportation, college. I mean, going off the cuff, if I have an appointment or like a reservation, I don't I don't understand why I'm waiting even more than like 30 seconds. I do not understand that.

[00:21:09]Darius: That does defeat the purpose of the reservation.

[00:21:10]Jordan: Yeah. Well, **** we doing.

[00:21:15]Darius: I mean, to really check the table.

[00:21:17]Jordan: Sure. But we've all.

[00:21:20]Darius: I even cut this. People who, how are this? Black people who only listen to black music.

[00:21:32]Jordan: Okay, I, yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. Yeah.

[00:21:39]Darius: Listen, the vast majority of music I listen to is rap and R&B. So it's not like I'm not out here, you know, you know, strumming the guitar, howling at the moon, but it's just a certain that only listens to rap 24/7.

[00:21:52]Jordan: I get you. I hear you.

[00:21:53]Darius: I hear you.

[00:21:55]Jordan: I'm like, dude, they're a little off. They tend to be a little off.

[00:21:58]Darius: They simpletons, man. Like you ain't never like nothing else.

[00:22:03]Jordan: No, I feel you. Or it's like I listen to literally everything. Like if you scroll to my phone, like I have scores from movie soundtracks. I have rock songs, pop songs. I have like Ella Fitzgerald on here. I have a bunch of **** on here, you know? And like growing up, like some of the backers pick me for like listening to like more than just rap music and music. It's like, it's all music. Also, somebody made it. I'm just listening to it. Like, yeah, like I made the ****. And either way, like I never understood that whole, oh, you used to that weird ****. Like, you know what I mean?

[00:22:32]Darius: Nah, man. Sometimes I turned into MTV. Some of that **** banged.

[00:22:37]Jordan: Yeah, that should do bang. And by the way, we invented rock and pop music. So.

[00:22:42]Darius: And listen, and where rap is headed now. I'm about to start sounding like Republican politicians in the 90s. Shut that **** off. Dude, it's so bad.

[00:22:55]Jordan: You're trying to hear that big mama no kids.

[00:22:57]Darius: No, I'm good. I'm good, man. You want to move on to your first topic. It's Asian.

[00:23:04]Jordan: Yeah. So I was scrolling on Twitter the other day and I saw this tweet and it said, let me pull it up real quick. Okay, so it said, people born in the years hyphen between 1990 and 2005, how's life? And someone said, group me with someone who was 15 in 2005 is crazy. And I liked the tweet. And then I was like, wait, hold the **** **. I was 13 in 2005. I was like, wait, am I old?

[00:23:39]Darius: You are, man.

[00:23:41]Jordan: Yeah, I was like, oh, wait, that's me. It's funny because we had Easter a couple days ago and we had family over and stuff. And my little cousins, a lot of them are there like between 18 and like 23, 24, 25, something like that. And they're like, yeah, a lot of people my age are like getting married. Some of them are having kids now and stuff. And then like, I think sometimes where I see people that I know having kids and being married, I'm like, damn, they're moving fast as hell. And I'm like, wait, that's normal.

[00:24:11]Darius: They're like, they're late. Yeah. For the vast majority of human history, people got married like 25. So yeah. man, it's a blessing not to go at all, the alternative is dying young, which getting old is a blessing, but no, man, it hits you. I'll never forget the level of deference I get from teenagers now is just like, I get served sometimes. I was in line at McDonald's at the mall to get a cup of coffee. And this was years ago. **** I was, this was like three or four years ago. And the teenagers in front of me were just being teenagers, like looking up and not no one was going. They just turned around and said, you can go ahead, sir. Like, I need a seat or something. Like I didn't want me standing waiting on them or how was it like my niece's friends like stopped cursing when I walked in the room one time. ****. Oh my God. That **** made me feel 97 years old.

[00:25:22]Jordan: Sorry, Mr. Thomas.

[00:25:24]Darius: Basically, yeah. They was like, oh, sorry, Destiny. They didn't know my name. They said Destiny's uncle. I was like, oh man. No, that's real.

[00:25:32]Jordan: No, it's not. I remember When I first started my first job when I was 16, I was working at a grocery store like every other kid, pretty much. And those adults come by and they'd be like, oh, is this your first job? I remember my first job, whatever. And then a couple of years, it started happening to me where I would go to grocery stores and kids would be working. And I'd be thinking to myself, man, I remember this was my first job. I remember to myself not to tell them because then I would sound really old. But they'll be like, hey, how you doing, sir? You have a good day.

[00:26:06]Darius: Or just like just how young 20, early 20 year olds look. And it's just like, yeah, I don't, everyone under 25 looks like an infant to me now. 16. Yeah, It's just like, when did, did I look this young at that age? And it's like, yes, you did. You looked. Yes, you did. Oh, my other one, people are like, 36 is to millennial 36 is so much younger than 36, however many years ago. And I'm like, have you asked any 20 year olds how young you look? You asked any young people if you look young? If you look young, yeah. I think it's a bit of a, now there is something to like indoor smoking is basically banned and cigarette smoke ages you. So there's something to that.

[00:26:51]Jordan: Yeah, we have aged better.

[00:26:53]Darius: Correct. And like, you know, the technology has gotten better, but I promise you to college students. You do not you don't look you look old like I'm sorry. No, you know. Yeah, man, again, it's a blessing. Things you, you know, like bed frame matters. Like when I get hotel, like I could tell when the bed sucks and I just never would have mattered before.

[00:27:19]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:27:20]Darius: That whole like just crashing anywhere. That shit's clipped.

[00:27:23]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:27:24]Darius: You know, my goodness. I have to warm up for the gym. Now I used to walk into a gym ice cold and just throw weight around. **** if I did that now, I have to be in the so fast.

[00:27:37]Jordan: No, the first thing I do when I hit the gym is I get water and I power walk to the stretching device and I just do the hang and twisting so I can decompress my spine.

[00:27:47]Darius: Man, just I walk in ice cold, no warm up, no nothing, not even a quick treadmill and just start throwing weight around. Now, man, I have I spend, I do some mobility work basically all day, but there's a solid 10 minute get the joints loose before I get going.

[00:28:04]Jordan: Yeah, I spend a good 10 to 15 minutes stretching.

[00:28:08]Darius: All right, moving into the next one. When ranking movies all time, does rewatchability matter?

[00:28:16]Jordan: Absolutely.

[00:28:17]Darius: Okay.

[00:28:18]Jordan: Absolutely. It's got to be a movie that you have to like to me a great movie or classic movie is when you Have to watch what you see on TV no matter how much time is left on the runtime. If you know it like a song lyric, you know what I mean? That's kind of how I judge movies, but that's how a lot of movies that I love or that are important to me, I have a designated amount of times a year I'm going to watch a certain movie or a certain time of year I watch these movies, things of that nature. So yeah, I'm a big rewatcher. I don't always watch new shows in real time because just I don't always have the time. So I'll take my movie and split it up. I'm going to watch these movies throughout this week and I'm just going to split it up like episodes and I'll just do that. So yeah, I think rewatchability is very important. Although I will say the exception is if it's a movie that hits you mostly so much, it's like you just can't ever do it again. Like Fruitville Station, phenomenal movie. I will probably never watch that again. My sister's keeper.

[00:29:16]Darius: There's one up there.

[00:29:17]Jordan: Yeah. That's my sister's keeper. Antoine Fisher. Never again.

[00:29:25]Darius: Yeah. My sister's keeper had a thug down. I was in that theater. Yeah. It's hard to break me. That movie broke me, man.

[00:29:33]Jordan: No, I feel you.

[00:29:34]Darius: I do think there's degrees of rewatchability though, right? So there's a like sit down I'm gonna start it from the top rewatchable is different than Saturday afternoon hungover. It's on the TV rewatchable. And streaming kind of messes that up because you're not scrolling channels anymore. So you're not catching Shawshank in the middle. The all-timer is the departed where like you just be like watching TNT on a Saturday afternoon and you see Jack Nicholas and his terrible performance in that movie. And you just, it would get lost into that.

[00:30:06]Jordan: But I think.

[00:30:08]Darius: Yeah, it's another good one. Goodfellas is an Alzheimer.

[00:30:12]Jordan: Yeah, Goodfellas.

[00:30:13]Darius: I like, it doesn't matter the scene. You just pick it up from there.

[00:30:16]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:30:17]Darius: It's a little bit like, I think, can a classic movie be a one and done?

[00:30:29]Jordan: It can be, but I got a good one when you finish. It shouldn't be. It can be, but it shouldn't be.

[00:30:35]Darius: Is Oppenheimer a classic?

[00:30:38]Jordan: Okay, that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, I'd say it's a classic.

[00:30:41]Darius: I have watched a frame of it since you left the theater.

[00:30:43]Jordan: I did. I watched it one more time after it came out or after I saw it in theaters. I won't say like that's one of those movies where it's made for the big screen. So it's almost, it does lose a percentage of its value watching it at home on your 16 and 15 inch whatever you have TV.

[00:31:01]Darius: I left that movie thinking Nolan. did it again. He's a monster masterpiece and I just not felt compelled to watch another friend. But like that takes nothing away from the feeling I had when I left that theater. I have, I was like, it's like a classic album. Like people say all classics have to be no skips and I don't believe that. I don't believe that either. The way I differentiate them is masterpieces have no skips. Classics can have a few skips. It can't have a ton, but like on a 15 track album, if you got 2 skips, I think you could still be a classic. Yeah, that's fine. Masterpieces have no skips. And so I think a classic movie can have no rewatchability, but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. And so like to me, Shawshank is a masterpiece. The Departed is a masterpiece. Goodfellas is a masterpiece. Sinners is a masterpiece. You know, just like things that I can just watch, like, you know, like background noise almost.

[00:32:05]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:32:07]Darius: And so it's tough though. You have to be, it has to be a very specific reason why Like My Sister's Keeper, which I don't think is a classic, but like I didn't rewatch that anymore because I don't really want to watch.

[00:32:18]Jordan: It just hurts. It hurts too much.

[00:32:20]Darius: I don't really like to do recreational sadness and like there's nothing sadder than kid cancer.

[00:32:26]Jordan: You know, The Fault in Our Stars is like that too.

[00:32:29]Darius: Oh my God, that one, man. I read that book and it's even worse.

[00:32:35]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:32:36]Darius: I don't know why I opted into that, but Man, I forgot about the Fault of My Stars. That one was nasty too. 12 Years a Slave. Great movie. I'm never going to watch that anymore.

[00:32:47]Jordan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those the movies with just a devastating color purpl