Getting Older, Dating Smarter, and Gatekeeping Culture (WOOM 08/11/26)

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00:00:00 Darius: You know what Rush Talk is, right?

00:00:02 Jordan: No, what's that?

00:00:03 Darius: Oh, it's like fraternity. Yeah. Sorority.

00:00:05 Jordan: Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

00:00:06 Darius: SEC sororities like doing dance routines. Yeah. And like they did some sorority, all white for sure, dancing to Not Like Us.

00:00:16 Jordan: Oh, yes. I just saw that today. Yeah.

00:00:18 Darius: And the people in the comments were doing what they do. And I'm like, how are you going to gatekeep a song performed at the ******* Super Bowl? Do you even hear yourself? Welcome to Out the Trunk with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's D's all up in your area on all socials.

00:00:33 Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan B. Riding on all socials.

00:00:36 Darius: It's a podcast where two friends started talking in a bar and never stopped. This is our What's On Our Mind segment. We let you guys know what's on our mind. Quick hits, deeper questions, whatever we've seen on the internet. So Opening salvo, if you will. Did you see the graphic that I sent you on the run test, rundown?

00:00:58 Jordan: Yeah, was it cozy movie night?

00:01:00 Darius: Yeah, so we put it on the screen for the audience to follow along with. You got 15 bucks. What kind of night are you building?

00:01:08 Jordan: 15 bucks. I'm going spending 5 bucks on Good Villas. It's a solid like 2 1/2, close to 3 hour movie. So that get more bang out of your buck.

00:01:19 Darius: It's the only good movie up there. But yes.

00:01:21 Jordan: That's fair. That's fair. I do like Clueless and Titanic though as a 90s kid. I'm also then I'm going to go nachos and cheese for my snack for my first snack. It's 9 bucks. Then I'm going to do Sour Patch Kid. That's one of my go-to puts me at 12 followed by I guess I'll do soda and I guess I'm pretty high nature, so I really just need a pillow, honestly. So I don't really need a blanket to watch a movie.

00:01:51 Darius: Do we have to pick one from every line? I guess.

00:01:54 Jordan: I mean, no, that's just.

00:01:55 Darius: I think that's how it works because 5, 9, 12, 14, 15. Okay, so I'll play along. All right, so Goodfellas for sure. It's the only movie that I could actually watch out of those four. Popcorn for sure. I have a beef with movie theater nachos. It's not nachos, it's chips and cheese. If you went to any restaurant and ordered nachos and they brought you chips and cheese, you would be like, that's not nachos.

00:02:23 Jordan: Unless you go to a good move theater, because mine has the real nachos with all the trimmings and stuff.

00:02:29 Darius: I have another rant about people who need meals in the movie theater. That's just greedy.

00:02:37 Jordan: One man's greedy is another man's multitasking.

00:02:39 Darius: Fair enough, fair enough. Number 3, gonna go with some Sour Patch Kids. Actually, peanut M&M's is tough, but I like those two.

00:02:53 Jordan: I'm not opposed to snow caps either.

00:02:55 Darius: Yeah, I like to do popcorn with the chocolate snacks. So you're going to go with the peanut M&M's there. The $2 line, honestly, I just would rather just spend 13 bucks. I'm not lighting a candle. I don't even own slippers. I guess a pillow and the $1 line. We're going to do a soda. But the wine is intriguing. Maybe if I'm in the company of a young lady, wine would be on the menu. But if it's a solo dolo evening soda, I don't even like hot chocolate. It's literally just a melted Hershey bar and tea is not big on tea. So. So you want to talk about some bad movies you'll defend?

00:03:40 Jordan: Yeah, I feel like, like before, like social media, you didn't really know what people viewed as bad in terms of like on a mass scale. So like I'm learning there's all these movies that people thought suck that I loved. So like, I'm my whole lot thing. These are great movies. People like all the it's universally panned. I'm like, Oh, **** I had no idea. So I made a list of movies that quote unquote are bad that I love and will defend to the death. One of them, that awkward moment with Zac Efron, Michael B Jordan, and Miles Teller. It's like a cheesy like guy rom-com, but I like rom-coms that like treat men as human beings. You know, they're not just a prop for who **** ** and then, you know, they give them flowers to the end and you're supposed to like them again.

00:04:22 Darius: That's not considered a good movie.

00:04:25 Jordan: Yeah, people hate that. Apparently it's considered a bad movie. Yeah.

00:04:27 Darius: It's on our schedule to be reviewed. So I love that movie.

00:04:33 Jordan: That's one of my cover movies. I've watched that movie probably like 7 * a year. So now what? Seven's extreme. Probably like 4 or 5 * a year. He's just not that into you. It's a like a one of those big ensemble rom-coms with like every actor in it. Like Jennifer Aniston's in it, Ben Affleck's in it. Who else? Bradley Cooper, Scarlet Johansen. It's like every white actor pretty much in it that was popular at that time period. Love that movie. X-Men Last Stand is the third one in the original trilogy. I didn't know people didn't like that movie. I was like, I learned it like last week. I was like, oh, **** I love that movie. Yeah, it's a good one of my favorite early Marvel movies. This one's that next two are also Marvel movies that were considered not great, I guess. Spider-Man 3, the black suit Spider-Man. People shoot on that movie. I'm like, first of all, any movie that involves Peter Parker getting it back in blood behind Uncle Ben, I'm in support of. We got that iconic dance scene where he's wearing the black suit and he's clapping outside the store. I always love that movie just for that scene alone. Billie McGuire. Because he spends the whole trailer just getting **** on by life. And for once, he like, you know, Stop taking the high roads. I love that. Then I'm going Daredevil, the Ben Affleck version. That was like widely panned. And I still don't know why. I love that movie. I got Michael Clark Duncan, rest in peace, playing Kingpin. He was a great super villain. Jennifer Garner was Electra. She looked fantastic. And she was nice with the sis. I think that's what they're called. Colin Farrell playing Bullseye. That was a fun choice. I don't know. I love the movie. Maybe it's because I was a kid when it came out. But yeah, I don't I don't get why certain people and I guess up your opinion, whatever. But those are movies that people **** on that I will always love.

00:06:28 Darius: Okay. So I do understand what you mean because it's happened to me a lot more with like rap albums where you it's like you you lived your whole like my first, I don't know, 25 years for local. And then I looked on the internet and I was exposed to the world and I was like, wait, that didn't bang to y'all?

00:06:48 Jordan: Yeah, no, like that's bad. That was bad.

00:06:52 Darius: Number one with a bullet state property. You're not, I would defend that movie until the absolute end of my days. I ******* love that movie front to back. Watch it all the time.

00:07:03 Jordan: Yeah.

00:07:04 Darius: I mean, it doesn't, fit the theme in the sense that I kind of knew it was bad when I was watching it. Right.

00:07:10 Jordan: You know you're bad. It's yeah. It's like Peyton Fool is bad, but you love it.

00:07:15 Darius: One that actually does fit the theme, Mortal Kombat 1 and Annihilation. Like I watched those as a kid. The 90 ones, the new ones suck, but like the 1995 and 96 ones.

00:07:27 Jordan: Yeah. Love the guy that just passed, right?

00:07:29 Darius: Yeah.

00:07:30 Jordan: Okay. Yeah.

00:07:31 Darius: Love them. Did not know they weren't critically acclaimed, but they went, they won Oscars in my house. A Lot Like Love is my favorite rom-com of all time. I'm pretty much the only human being who holds that position.

00:07:43 Jordan: Yeah, you do. You do love that movie.

00:07:45 Darius: Why Did I Get Married? One is, like most Salad Perry movies, it's not really that blue, critically acclaimed movie, but I love it. It's the only one of his movies that I can rewatch. Correct. To get serious out the furnace with Christian Bale and Casey Affleck, Woody Harrelson.

00:08:05 Jordan: So we saw Donna, I think is in it, right?

00:08:07 Darius: Maybe. I don't recall any women in that movie other than Christian Bale, like a woman or wife or whatever.

00:08:14 Jordan: Yeah, I love that movie.

00:08:15 Darius: Woody Harrelson plays like a borderline supernatural. Yeah, monster character. It's great. I didn't. Yeah, because like it came out with I live in California and I just went and watched it and, you know, I didn't know that it had received mixed reviews, but I love that movie. And we reviewed this one. You're next. The horror movie. Yeah. It's I know that movie's bad, but I do enjoy that movie.

00:08:40 Jordan: It's so bad. It's funny.

00:08:42 Darius: Correct.

00:08:44 Jordan: Yeah, I'm at that.

00:08:45 Darius: One quick album. I did not know this wasn't like universally regarded as a classic. Jada kisses kiss the game. Goodbye. Literally was like no skips. Adored that album. And the Internet is kind of lukewarm about it. And so I hear all the time that Jaded Kiss is like the best rapper without a classic. And I'm like, yeah, that's I count like two or three of them, but kiss the gun.

00:09:07 Jordan: Okay. So I got two albums for that. I like that. For me, it's considered like culture shifting now. By the time people **** on that movie album, it awaits in heartbreak. I love that album. And then Yeezus, people **** on Yeezus. I love that album too. There's some good music on there. Also, I think it's like, if you only listen to rap music, that wasn't the album for you. know, that was for people who listen to other genres and have different flavors to their playlists, so to speak. I thought of another movie that's really bad, but I ******* love. It's a movie called Homefront. It's got Jason Statham and James Franco. Jason Statham plays like, well, he plays himself. He does in every movie where he's like, he's like a retired, like agent or undercover agent and he has a kid who there, her mom just died and they moved to this Podong town and she goes to school and she gets bullied by this big fat kid, but because her dad's an agent, she can fight it. So the kid's like being a bully. So she knocks the kid out. The parents come to school and cause a scene and the dad tries to fight Jason Statham. You know how that goes. But of course, the dad's wife has like, meth dealer brother who's James Franco, who's like some evil villain or whatever. And it's just like a dope *** like shoot him up, bang, bang movie.

00:10:23 Darius: I'm convinced Jason Tatum, Statum doesn't actually read the scripts. He just shows up and films like 10 hours and they just chop it up into four movies. He doesn't, he's like, I'm doing the same thing in every scene.

00:10:34 Jordan: Him in the rock, yeah.

00:10:36 Darius: One 10 hour day and then you make 4 movies out of this.

00:10:39 Jordan: That's it. That's it. That's all they do.

00:10:42 Darius: Similar vein. Olympus has fallen and London has fallen. The CGI is God awful. The plot makes no sense.

00:10:50 Jordan: Not at all.

00:10:51 Darius: And you know, I can't, I watch up until, I watch about an hour, then I have to shut them off because they get stupid. But like the first hour, both of those movies are, they went triple platinum in my home. If you, Okay, I'm not mad at that. That's what the kids say.

00:11:07 Jordan: So that was like, yeah, that was the time of your period where like, They kept making movies that were just clones of each other and dropping them the same year. I remember it was Olympus Down and then there was the Jamie Foxx version with Shannon Tatum.

00:11:20 Darius: White House Down. White Hawk or something. Yeah. I'm not sure. This might just be an internet rumor, but I think it was literally the same script sold twice to two different studios.

00:11:34 Jordan: I believe it.

00:11:35 Darius: Actually, I think I heard that.

00:11:37 Jordan: I think I heard that. Yeah, I think I did hear that.

00:11:38 Darius: Because of some legal wrangling, they both got to make it and they just was like, yeah, you go six months first on this one. I'll go six months first.

00:11:48 Jordan: This was like after Black Swan came out. And I think Mila Kunis and Natalie Portman were like pretty good friends too. So I think they knew they were just like making the same movies like separately. Yeah.

00:11:57 Darius: Don't quote me on it, but I think it's actually literally like the same script.

00:12:01 Jordan: I think that did happen. I think I remember seeing that on like Twitter like a decade ago.

00:12:06 Darius: But I'm pretty sure. Yeah, man, Olympus is following the idea that like an enemy fighter jet could get all the way to the White House.

00:12:14 Jordan: And no one know anything.

00:12:16 Darius: And no one, no one on the radar, no one called, no one had been gone.

00:12:20 Jordan: Not even a little bit.

00:12:21 Darius: Wait till it was 10 minutes away. But you know, so I think it's.

00:12:26 Jordan: And of course it's always an inside job.

00:12:28 Darius: Yeah, of course. I mean, of course. And then, yeah, I was going to say something like you knew who it was when you were watching it, but I think it's. It's good to have a healthy balance. Like we make the joke all the time. Like we, I'm not sitting and watching Citizen Kane every day. Like, you know, you have to have, it's like a critic's job is what a critic's job is. And don't get me wrong. Like I want them to be snobby. That's literally the job. But like, right.

00:12:55 Jordan: The fan doesn't necessarily.

00:12:57 Darius: And we're consumers and you know, like I don't always want a dialogue driven, you know, character study when that, you know, on a Tuesday night to get off of work.

00:13:08 Jordan: Nope.

00:13:08 Darius: you just like it's different moods for different things. Sometimes I want the Migos and sometimes I want nots and like that's the same thing with the movies, so. Correct, 100%. So you want to get into the next one?

00:13:23 Jordan: Yeah, what's the next topic?

00:13:25 Darius: So I found us a generic prompt to get us yapping. So just straight up, just going to throw it out there generic for you. What's something that gets better with age and what's something that gets worse with age?

00:13:38 Jordan: Something that gets better with age, I'd say perspective. Okay. That's the first thing I thought of that gets better with age. You look back and it's like, the **** that you thought meant so much or was gonna mean so much to the person you thought was gonna mean so much, it was just like a small part of your journey, you know? Or even just like **** that you spassed out about, you just spassed out about now you're like, what am I doing? Like, what was I thinking? Like, why am I? Raising my blood pressure over that for, like, come on, man. I think things also get better with aged wine, of course. I'd say it. I had to get it too obvious to not say it. I'd say art, you know, good art, age as well, and it's timeless. Collectibles items, you know, like mint, trading cards, comic books, the little action figures you don't open, that sort of thing. I'd say high value. No, I'm just kidding. No, I think that's what I got for things to get better. I mean, I'm sure I could think of something else if I really had time to sit down. But things get worse with age, back pain, knee pain. I almost exempted physical pain. Alcohol tolerance.

00:14:49 Darius: Oh, man. Oh, dude. Yeah, like that's the thing is just the way your body responds to booze just changes. I'd say about 30 to 33 is when I was just like, you know, the the the Wednesday bad day at work. Let me get a couple of beers and a burger at the bar that just had to stop because I got just my whole week and my rest of the week would be shot. And so, yeah, that's something that definitely changes. But The so yeah, gym recovery is definitely on the worst list. But the better list, I think patience, I, I can't remember the last time I like just like, like yelled just because I was a kid, you know, you're young and testosterone surging and like, you don't you just you just everything is makes you angry. And like, I don't. Yeah, very little actually gets me like, like, like just steam coming out of my ears, angry mental clarity, just like decision making discipline. Like I can if I'm given a task and it's due in three weeks, I can map that out in a way that I just wasn't capable of ten years ago.

00:16:06 Jordan: Yeah.

00:16:07 Darius: And just day to day things. One thing I had on here better is food noise is what I call like a lot of people who are on GLP ones, they'll say like the biggest thing is like quieting food noise. They don't think about food. And I'm not on a GLP one, which obviously you could look at me and tell, but like just like you don't you don't like. Yeah, I don't know. Like I just don't like I used to constantly think about food and now I just kind of like I make most of my meals on Sunday for the rest of the week. And that helps because like you just know what you're going to eat. And, you know, I indulge here and there, don't get me wrong, but like I've definitely noticed that like food noise goes down as I've gotten older. Yeah, long term decision making. When I was, you know, when I was in my early to mid twenties, I spent every dollar I had and now like money doesn't burn a hole in my pocket like it used to. And it's just easier to map things out and just, you know, make this long term thinking and decision making gets easier. Worse sleep. It's like I used to be able to hit my head on the pillow and just be out for 9 hours and it'd be fine. But now it's like, you know, part of that is YouTube shorts. I mean, watching videos of people cleaning carpets, right? I think this is it's going to sound counterintuitive, but gets worse with age is your tolerance for risk in a sense that like I do think some risk taking behavior is good and you sort of lose your stomach for that as you get out. And there's a reason why Most billion dollar companies are founded by people in their late twenties, early thirties, and it's because they just have a stomach for risk and chance that older people don't. And like, yeah, I do think some risk taking is good. You got anything else?

00:17:57 Jordan: Things have gotten better. Yeah, I'd say like I'm I'm I've gotten better at planning or and getting and I'm getting better at planning things out as I age. Man, I still, I've always kind of dealt with like executive dysfunction. Like it just, and I'm gonna start to overwhelm you like, **** that, I'll just deal with it later, deal with it when I have to deal with it. Which of course just, you know, everything piles up, it all hits at one time, you know, that's kind of like what a lot of my 20s and first one or two years in my 30s was like, you know. So definitely trying to be more proactive with that. And also like life is going to force you to eventually. So you might as well get a head start while you before things get too catastrophic. I'd say probably acceptance. I think something I've gotten better at as I've aged. Like I have a way shorter not tolerance, but I'll say I have a way shorter lease for certain things like with other people and with myself. Before dealing with someone, friend, whatever, relationship, whatever, I've noticed things and I'd be like, well, and I just kind of kick it down the road or keep on keeping on in the relationship. And then last few years as I've gotten older, I'm like, wait, I don't have to wait for it to get worst case scenario. I don't have to wait for it to get as bad as it possibly can get. I don't have to wait until they stab me in the back to cut them off. You know what I mean? Like, the second I think they'd have a knife, I should just cut them off, you know? The second I see them do it to somebody else or whatever, or the second I see them, you know, some sort of big character flaw, whatever the case may be, that's enough of a reason to end, or at least to separate, create distance, you know? I feel like a lot of times we, as humans, we try to give people the benefit of the doubt and like, or people like this whole thing was like, you know, I've been building a Rico in my head over like So when I cut them off, I had no regrets. But for the most part, looking back, whenever I've cut people off, I didn't have any regrets. I've only ever regretted keeping people around, you know, so just getting better at and not feeling like I'm losing something by losing a person.

00:20:04 Darius: Yeah.

00:20:04 Jordan: You know, like you can grieve the relationship, but like, you're still you and you still have value. So you losing them is not actually a loss, you know?

00:20:11 Darius: It's just your discernment gets better, right? You can, you can, it's easier to determine who means well and who means not so well, you know, and that that reveals itself earlier in the interaction and you're less clouded by, you know, the the door endorphins that come with meeting someone new, whether that be a new friend or a new girlfriend or whatever. Right. Which is which which category would you put dating in? Does that get better or worse with age?

00:20:40 Jordan: Oh, that's hard to say. It's almost like it's almost like to like putting NBA terms almost like a plus minus like some games because some games is bad like like it's you know because it's like you get better with discernment but then because your discernment is better your tolerance is lower yeah so because your tolerance is lower your options are you know or in the same token it's also like things that you maybe you don't necessarily want to deal with be it various like circumstances. I'll let you kind of figure that out from there because I don't want to disparage anyone on camera. Fair enough.

00:21:25 Darius: I think it's unequivocally better. I would not trade my dating life at 38 for my dating life at 28. It's not even close. It is. It's a lot less chaotic, which can be plus or minus, but.

00:21:40 Jordan: Right.

00:21:43 Darius: Yeah, it's not even close. That was a bit of a mess in my late 20s. So I do think it gets better. Ideally, you wouldn't be dating at all in your late 30s. You have a family, but you know, here we are. But given the circumstances that I found myself in, I would say that it is better for sure.

00:22:04 Jordan: Got you.

00:22:05 Darius: Want to get into the next or you got another?

00:22:07 Jordan: Yes, follow up. When you said you were a mess, what do you mean by that?

00:22:11 Darius: I just was chaotic, right? I just, you know, juggling, lying.

00:22:19 Jordan: Yeah.

00:22:20 Darius: Just, you know, a typical bachelor shenanigans. Yeah. You know, I. Yeah, it just it depends on who you ask, but I think some experiences were better than others, but. I just wasn't. My discernment was worse and I just wasn't good as good at making decisions.

00:22:43 Jordan: Yeah, for sure. I've definitely been there. Like I look back at certain things and I'm like, I could have totally avoided that if I listened to my gut in the first two weeks and not tried to benefit the doubt my way out of reality, you know?

00:23:00 Darius: I got you, man. Two Americas.

00:23:04 Jordan: Oh, yeah. So You saw the clip I sent you.

00:23:07 Darius: Yeah, that was Foxworth.

00:23:09 Jordan: Yeah, where he was on, was it Jeopardy or some sort of game show?

00:23:12 Darius: And he was like, ESPN Jeopardy or something.

00:23:14 Jordan: Cause Joe Fox was like, yeah, I was like, what is he doing? And he was like, you know, my favorite thing is watching game shows when they asked white people black history questions or questions about black culture, because they never knew any of it. And it brought to mind, I actually was at a trivia night at the spot one time and they, a lot of the shows were, obviously and references were, mostly white. And then there was like a section where they were asking like black stuff. I was like, thank God I can get some points. And then it was just me and Daniel rattling them off.

00:23:51 Darius: It's funny. Like, as soon as it panned Dominique, I was going to say, bye. I just knew he's going to tell some bad comic view joke. And of course he did.

00:23:58 Jordan: Yeah.

00:24:00 Darius: White people do this. Black people do that. Black people do this. I just know it. I just knew it. No, it's definitely true because I've definitely been at trivia nights and it went to like the music section and like. I was able to answer certain questions and other people were able to answer other questions. And like, these people didn't even know that Marvin Gaye's dad killed him. It was like, the question was like, this soul singer died in 1983, you know, because his father shot him. And I was like, it's Marvin Gaye. And like, I did an impromptu history lesson, I guess, played a little as collective. But Yeah. Normally I find those jokes just cheesy because I knew he was going to do it, but that was pretty good. That was pretty funny.

00:24:41 Jordan: Oh, no, yeah, for sure.

00:24:42 Darius: My favorite Jeopardy stuff is when they do sports section and those nerds have no idea. Oh, yeah, Because yeah, they that's just they always straight brick every sports column and it's funny to me.

00:24:58 Jordan: It also just made me think of like different things where like, just like that are actual real cultural differences. Like, you know, when we've been at sports bars and we've seen, we've seen black men wear like hats, right? And then a white person been like, oh, is that your team? Or how long have you been a team of that team? Or how did you become a fan of that team if you're in North Carolina? And that's a Yankees hat or whatever. And it's like, we just, we like hats. That's it.

00:25:22 Darius: That's it. That's a good one. I just lost my train of thought. Yeah, it is. I mean, look, it's becoming less culturally salient as you know, we just become one bigger melting pot and people, you know, aren't, you know, it's just the internet has collapsed a lot of the context barriers and you just people can peek into our world and we can peek into their world. I saw something earlier. You know what Rush Talk is, right?

00:25:56 Jordan: No, what's that?

00:25:57 Darius: It's like fraternity. Yeah. Sorority.

00:25:59 Jordan: Okay. Yeah.

00:26:00 Darius: SEC sororities like doing dance routines to and like they did some sorority all white for sure dancing to not like us.

00:26:10 Jordan: Oh, yes. I just saw that today. Yeah.

00:26:12 Darius: And the people in the comments were doing what they do. And I'm like, how are you going to gatekeep a song performed at the ******* Super Bowl? Do you even hear yourself? How you gonna gatekeep a song performed at the Super Bowl? Explain to me how that makes sense.

00:26:31 Jordan: That's a good point. That's a good point. I think they're more so talking about because it literally is the antithesis of the sentiment of the song. But you're not wrong.

00:26:39 Darius: You performed it in front of 100 million people. The vast majority of them are white. You cannot gatekeep a song performed at the Super Bowl. It's just these people kill me, man. It's like they when they complain about like how woke has changed and it's like, y'all cannot be this fragile. Like you just, you just cannot possibly be this fragile. Okay, so our people are stronger than this.

00:26:59 Jordan: We are stronger than this. But okay, so when you say how woke has changed, what do you what do you mean? Do you mean how they use it as the new N-word?

00:27:04 Darius: Because that is not the new N-word. It's just there was a culture.

00:27:07 Jordan: Some people do use that.

00:27:08 Darius: There was a culture of annoying *** people in 2020 who did stupid land acknowledgements and other **** ****. And all of that is. No, that's fine.

00:27:22 Jordan: No, that's fine. I'm talking about like the far, far left. I'm sorry, the far, far right. When they there's a segment they use it like that.

00:27:31 Darius: My thing is, if you use a term on a Twitter account with 30,000 followers unlocked.

00:27:35 Jordan: We're going to see it. Yeah, right.

00:27:37 Darius: You're not gatekeeping. You have 30,000 followers. You thought they weren't listening to you. Like you want to influence, but then you're mad when people are influenced. Make up. What do you want? I just, like.

00:27:55 Jordan: That's valid.

00:27:56 Darius: So that's the person who wrote the song decided to perform it at the Super Bowl. Clearly he don't care about gatekeeping it. He's not.

00:28:02 Jordan: Yeah, he was not gatekeeping. He was not gatekeeping.

00:28:05 Darius: So it's not for us.

00:28:06 Jordan: He wanted everyone to know what he thought of Drake.

00:28:09 Darius: It's not for us anymore. Once you do something at the Super Bowl, it's not for us anymore.

00:28:13 Jordan: That's true. That's true. Yeah. You can't be like, oh, they did dance to Dirty Diane or some ****. Like it's, you know, gatekeeper. Yeah, right.

00:28:22 Darius: ******* 80 million records, man.

00:28:24 Jordan: The whites are gonna hear Purple Rain, guys.

00:28:26 Darius: It's just like, mathematically speaking, if you want any rapper to like pop, the vast majority of their fan base is gonna be white people because there's just, we're only like 14% of the population. You can't, a rapper cannot do an arena show It's math. Like it's just not possible. So you either have to pick if you want these people to be big and huge and do arenas and Super Bowls, their fan base is going to be primarily white. That's just the math. I'm sorry.

00:28:54 Jordan: Yeah. I got to say for example. So I remember in high school we were reading Their Eyes Are Watching God. Did you read that book?

00:29:07 Darius: No, maybe if I did, I don't remember any of it. So let's just go with no.

00:29:13 Jordan: Okay, so it's a book, you know, set in the South. I can't remember which era, but either around Jim Crow or during slavery, shortly after. I can't remember the exact period. And so the dialect and it had all the apostrophes and it was talking how they spoke back then and how we speak when we're the families and **** like that, whatever. I remember our teacher was like, this guy's book is really challenging. It's going to be really hard to read. The dialect is very difficult. You know, he almost acted like it was another language. And I'm reading it and I'm like, this is a raising in the sign. Like, this is simple ****. This is how we talk at Thanksgiving. And but like hearing like my classmates and my teachers like read it out loud was hysterical. Like it was it was like if you ever taken like a foreign language class and like that one kid who just can't verbalize it.

00:29:59 Darius: Yeah.

00:30:01 Jordan: It was like that.

00:30:03 Darius: I will. I would argue it'd be worse if they were really comfortable saying those words.

00:30:08 Jordan: Yeah.

00:30:10 Darius: They're like, I got this right here.

00:30:12 Jordan: And they were like, all right, hold up, y'all. I was be cooking.

00:30:16 Darius: He was like, my dad says this stuff all the time. I go, I know the words.

00:30:23 Jordan: You know, our maid talks like that.

00:30:29 Darius: Yeah, it's I would he was it is definitely a funny cultural difference, but it is good that your teacher was aware enough to know that he should give a little bit of a warning there. You got any more examples?

00:30:47 Jordan: Trying to think. You know, I'd say that the concept of like a stay at home mom, that's kind of a cultural thing, it seems like, you know, like just historically. I remember I was in high school when I learned people that existed in real life, like in this day and age. I thought that was just like some Leave it to Beaver ****. I didn't think people actually did that in real life anymore, because often women in my family worked. So like in high school, I remember we did like a survey. It was like, who had a stay-at-home mom? And like a lot of the kids' moms were stay-at-home moms. And I was like, wait, what? Like I had no idea. My mom worked, all my cousin's moms worked, you know, my friend's moms worked. That to me was like mind-blowing.

00:31:26 Darius: I think there's more of a sign of affluence. more, more like white people in the aggregate are more fluent than black people. And as black people got more affluent, like I know a couple black stay at home moms now and it's because their husbands have money and you know, what she would make is, is less than the daycare. And so, right, y