Delete the Smartphone, Release the Art (WOOM 05/06/26)

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[00:00:00]Jordan: And also don't worry about the critics. Like my favorite, one of my favorite quotes of all time is the FDR quote about, or is it Teddy Roosevelt?

[00:00:08]Darius: I don't know.

[00:00:09]Jordan: Teddy Roosevelt, the man in the arena. Only the man in the arena knows the dust and the blood and the sweat. I forget the full quote, but it's great poetry. But yeah, it's just about basically, you know, ignore the critic because they don't know what it's like to be in there, you know, like Don't worry about the comment section because they're commenting on what you made. Like anybody can type about what you did, you know? Like who cares? Like my mentality is if you could do it, you would do it. And if you couldn't do it and you did it, that still makes you better than people who talked about the people who did it.

[00:00:37]Darius: That's true, but don't ignore us as movie critics. We don't know.

[00:00:42]Jordan: Plus we're talking about it because we're talking about it because we love it. Yeah.

[00:00:49]Darius: Welcome to Out the Trump with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's these I love the area on all socials.

[00:00:55]Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan to be writing on all socials.

[00:00:58]Darius: Is our segment we call what's on our mind, quick hits throughout the week. Sometimes we get into deeper questions, just our general place where we put discussion. So one start off the bat, you ever have someone mention something like a technology or just a piece of pop culture that you totally forgot about and it just sends you back to a place? I saw a tweet earlier this morning and a girl was like, I was scrolling. She's like, my guy friends don't believe how bad dating apps are. I was scrolling, I was showing through the messages and I was like, people use those things still. It's like, who's still using dating apps in 2026? I thought, I just thought that was extinct.

[00:01:41]Jordan: The short answer is use it when you're bored. And then the long answer is masochists usually tend to use it because you got to be a glutton for punishment because there's nothing good on there.

[00:01:52]Darius: I was going to say the only people left are the desperate or like the socially awkward to like autism levels. Like I'm a pretty socially awkward guy, but I'm talking about like Drooling in public.

[00:02:06]Jordan: Or it's like couples looking for thirds and **** like that.

[00:02:09]Darius: I just totally, it was just completely out of the lexicon. I have not heard someone talk about a dating app in a minute. And I was like, yes, people, those are still around.

[00:02:21]Jordan: Yes, you're something you do in your board type **** or, you know, yeah.

[00:02:24]Darius: I just, you know, I remind people that There's no incentive for the like their stated purpose. There's no incentive for them to keep they want you on the app. So like if they did what it was supposed to do, they would run out of business.

[00:02:38]Jordan: So like there'd never be any.

[00:02:41]Darius: It's like a cigarette, you know, like a healthy cigarette. There's no such thing. Delete those things. It's like the worst thing possible. So anyways, we'll throw it to you, man. Topic one, McDonald's. I don't even know what's going on with that. So you take it.

[00:02:56]Jordan: Yeah. So remember we had that talk about like vacations last week and I said, I don't want to when I'm eating on vacation, I don't want to go anywhere that I can eat like at home, like a chain restaurant, basically something like that. And so I was hanging out with some friends over the weekend and they were like, I do want to push back on that. And they said, because the McDonald's in Tokyo is like different. They have like unique stuff there. Like I think they have like ramen and **** like that there. So it's an interesting exception. which I did not think of. So I wanted to ask you if you knew of any like chain restaurants that had any unique dishes, I guess, or any exceptions to the rule for you or any, I mean?

[00:03:40]Darius: If the audience remember the conversation, I was pretty amenable to go into chains. True.

[00:03:44]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:03:45]Darius: So, but no, I follow this guy on YouTube who basically has just perusing around Asia, gallivanting, if you will. And he does like what I ate in a day to cycle around Taiwan or whatever. And sometimes he'll pop into a McDonald's and the menu is totally different.

[00:04:02]Jordan: Right.

[00:04:02]Darius: And, you know, I don't know. I can't recall a specific item off the top of my head, but yeah, I mean, I've heard of that. I don't know why it would. It seems odd, but the menus are different in different parts of the world, I guess.

[00:04:16]Jordan: Right. Yeah, I've seen grocery stores in or bodegas in other countries have areas where you can make pho and **** like that.

[00:04:27]Darius: I know the gas stations that he hits are just like way better than our gas. The gas station cheeseburger that we have here is not, but like he said, it's like homemade pho and there's like soup dumplings and microwaves. Yeah, but like, How good are microwave soup dumplings, really? Well, like, I'm just, how good is the fun that you're getting that you're assembling in your car from the gas station? You know, I imagine it's a one to one equivalent to when we get chicken tenders from sheets is it's like, probably, yeah. But like, you know, it's not, it's not the best chicken tender you've had. So they're gassing it a little bit, but you know, I would, I'd try it, sure. I'm not, I'm not a, I do prefer non chain restaurants to chain restaurants, but I don't really if it's, if we're out and about during the day and that's what's around to eat, I don't have a problem with the chain food on the, like it's not what I would, it's not my first, second or third choice, but it's not like a, I know some people who is just like a straight up deal breaker. Like they plan breakfast, lunch and dinner the whole trip. And, you know, that's, it's like, you know, Everyone vacations differently and I hope people tie it back to the conversation that get their vacation match. So yeah, moving on to a question I had for you because I already had an answer. If you could delete one technological advancement forever, just like it might be flashy thing it from existence. No one ever knew it happened before. Would you do it and what would you do?

[00:06:08]Jordan: Yeah, I think the technology I would want to delete forever. I would say commercial pickup trucks. Because I hate the way that people who drive pickup trucks drive. I don't mean like people who have CDLs. I don't mean 18 wheelers. I mean people just have F-150s. They drive like they own the road. And like, it's okay if your car gets hit and you die.

[00:06:33]Darius: So you mean consumer pickup trucks?

[00:06:35]Jordan: Yes, because CDLs are consumers. I'm tripping. No, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying not CDLs. Like those guys are cool.

[00:06:40]Darius: I was like, how do you think you're getting your food and your?

[00:06:42]Jordan: No, I wanted to make sure I wasn't. distinguish the difference. Yeah. I'm saying people who drive just regular pickup trucks just to and from work and home and pleasure vehicles, if you will, in the insurance world, that's what we call them. Yeah, I hate those things and I hate the people who drive them.

[00:06:58]Darius: You know, my most old man yell at the clouds consumer boomer complaint is that the trucks are too damn big and everyone drives too damn fast. Like it's just like, dude, I was walking home from the gym the other day and I walked past. These things are just tanks. They're not trucks. They're tanks.

[00:07:17]Jordan: They're Batmobiles.

[00:07:20]Darius: If your truck makes me feel small when I stand next to it, it's too damn big for the road. It's too big for the road.

[00:07:25]Jordan: And when they get them elevated and they're like 12 feet tall, what is that?

[00:07:29]Darius: If you're driving in your neighborhood and a kid's ball rolls into the street, you're not going to see that kid. You're just not. There's no chance if you're driving 30 miles an hour, which they never do. They're always speeding. Correct. You're just, you're not gonna see it. If a kid's ball rolls into the road, you're gonna hit that kid. And it's just luck that it hasn't happened yet. And those trucks are too damn big, you know?

[00:07:50]Jordan: I agree.

[00:07:51]Darius: That is my most, you know, hipster liberal left wing nanny state position is that the trucks are too damn big and everyone drives too damn fast. So I'm not mad at that. I agree with you on that one. Mine, smartphones. If I could just nuke those from existence, I would. Yeah, I would.

[00:08:10]Jordan: Oh man, I think I'd die.

[00:08:12]Darius: Not even close. I think they make us dumber. They make our attention spans worse. Mind you, I didn't say get rid of social media. I think Facebook is fine when you have to go to a desktop computer and go on and Instagram and all of that. But no, if I could take the computers out of our pockets and put them back in a room in the house and when you, Not saying cell phones. You can have a regular cell phone. Like you can still text and call. Just smartphones.

[00:08:37]Jordan: Just phones with no internet access.

[00:08:38]Darius: Mainlining vertical form TikTok videos in pocket is not good for anything.

[00:08:45]Jordan: No vertical streaming basically.

[00:08:46]Darius: No, like old school Nokia with the game on it with Snake. You could text. Who's calling that ****? Yeah. By the way, I actually think that's a good song. Drake is so down right now that no one is checking for him. I maintain that was actually a good song. But no, maybe not like Blackberry was like a perfect little.

[00:09:10]Jordan: It was taste of the internet, but not sidekick.

[00:09:14]Darius: Sidekick. Like that was when that was the last time I thought cell phones were a net positive. I'm not mad at that. I think the iPhone and the.

[00:09:23]Jordan: She had a couple games. You could check scores on your phone.

[00:09:26]Darius: Text your friends. Like I don't think like it sucked back when you left the house. You were just kind of like hoping people showed up. That sucked. Like being able to text and call people on the road and figure out coordinations and like that's fine.

[00:09:39]Jordan: Yeah, you need GPS.

[00:09:41]Darius: I mean, sure. I think that makes us dumber too. figuring out, navigating the roads and figuring things out was a part of cognitive learning that was good for us. And no, I think it's like a dumb phone. If I could just give everybody a dumb phone again and take the internet out of our pockets, I would literally snap a finger and do it tomorrow. I think they are net negative. So just specifically the smartphones. And, you know, social media is fine as long as it's not in our pocket. So if you, you know, back when you go on the website and post your pictures and go live your life, that was cool. You know, you know, and but.

[00:10:21]Jordan: Basically no posting until you get home pretty much.

[00:10:23]Darius: Just take the Internet off the phones. Keep the phones for calling, texting and have the Internet be on a computer at the crib or laptop, whatever.

[00:10:33]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:10:34]Darius: So that's mine. So.

[00:10:36]Jordan: Okay.

[00:10:38]Darius: Moving into art. You want to talk about some art? Or did you have anything else for that?

[00:10:42]Jordan: I'm trying to think if I had any other ones. I think that's my big one, honestly. Like, because I just use a lot of technology, so I can't think of any one that I really like wouldn't done. I mean, if there was like an upgrade, I guess, or like if I could erase one facet of technology, I really, really, really hate like cords and wires. I just they're just like shackles and I hate them and wish there was a way we could undo, unplug everything and still like use them. We're getting there. Yeah, yeah, we're getting there.

[00:11:19]Darius: I did think of one loophole in my smartphone thing and then I thought like actually it would be better. Like, yeah, it would be better if music wasn't on our phone and we actually had to buy CDs and listen to them. I don't think streaming is making us better consumers of music. So no, that can go too.

[00:11:36]Jordan: There are so many albums I've never finished. I have more access to more music than anyone who's ever lived in the history of time. And I've got more unfinished albums in my phone.

[00:11:46]Darius: Man, when you had to spend that 15 and buy an actual CD.

[00:11:51]Jordan: You were gonna spend that ****.

[00:11:52]Darius: You were gonna listen to that ************. And I know There was some duds. My most famous one was Dragons, opposite of H2O, because there's nothing worse than trying to force yourself to like some trash *** CD.

[00:12:05]Jordan: No, yeah.

[00:12:06]Darius: But no, like.

[00:12:07]Jordan: You just don't get it. You don't understand what they're saying.

[00:12:10]Darius: No, that shit's trash. But no, like there would be some downsides, but I definitely think all in all, we would be better off if we knew those damn things. So, all right, man. Art, you got something on here for Art?

[00:12:25]Jordan: Yeah. I was thinking about this. There was an old quote. I saw someone who's someone I kept trying to find was just me who said it. I wouldn't give them the credit, but basically they were just saying like, don't let your art die with you.

[00:12:38]Darius: Okay.

[00:12:38]Jordan: Meaning like when you when it's your time to go, you put as much of it out as you possibly could. That way, you know, there's it's not, you know, your work isn't left unseen, unappreciated. And it speaks a lot to just like the fear artists have of putting things out, and it's a great way to think about it. Like, do you, what's the point of make, obviously you enjoy the process, but what's the point of making the things you love or making things you love to make if no one sees them? You know, it's like, you know, that quote, that question, if a forest falls on the tree and no one's, if a tree falls in the forest, doesn't make a sound if no one's there to hear it, you know? And like I saw the Michael Jackson movie, last week. And there's a famous quote, and they actually put in the movie where he said, like he would, whenever he got an idea, he would get wherever he was, he would run to the studio, basically. And they're like, why do you have to do it right now? He's like, if I don't execute the great ideas God gives me, he'll give them to Prince. And I just love the idea that just like those ideas and those thoughts were given to you because only you could execute them and share those with the world. So I just really like that. It's interesting that like to my, for my money, the greatest entertainer ever, top three at worst, had that like dogged desperation because he could have just chilled and not had that mentality. But that's what made him great. And I just want to get your feedback or your thoughts on that.

[00:13:59]Darius: I agree. Someone should tell George or George RR Martin that. Yes. He needs to hear this message. No, 100%. They're almost like. It's almost like leaving, leaving for the people behind you, your family and things like that. it's important like those things, those mementos and, they used to be journals and, things like that. you go through photo albums and, people have been gone a long time, but that's the piece that, stays with them. Cause there's a lot, I mean, you think about it statistically. It's like 2 generations and you'll be forgotten forever. Like it's like your children remember you, your grandchildren will remember you, but your great-grandchildren, you're just going to be that old person in the corner of the house that they knew for like 2 years. And so like, that's what's that's what's going to, you know, unless you are famous or do something and you know, like that.

[00:14:52]Jordan: Historic.

[00:14:53]Darius: Your art is what's your art, your writings, your whatever is going to be here longer than you are, you know? Correct, yeah. someone wrote in 1700s has long outlived their 40 years on this planet. So, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. You should get it out there. You know, I should take my own advice sometimes, but 100% that get it out there because that's your legacy, if you will. And I know that's like a loaded word, but it is true. That's what people are gonna have when you're gone. They're gonna have the pictures, they're gonna have the things you wrote, they're gonna have the letters you wrote, they're gonna have the projects you did in school, the podcast you recorded, and so that's going to these, podcasts will exist on some RSS feed when we are dirt, right? So someone 100 years from now, our ancestry or whatever will our progeny will look, you know, be able to listen to what we thought about McDonald's in Tokyo in 2026. So that's always good.

[00:15:57]Jordan: I think so too. I think like art is in a way like people act like art is like highfalutin or whatever, but it's kind of the key to immortality in a way. It's a form of it rather, you know, we spoke about Michael Jackson. He was born in what, 1950 something in Indiana. And there are kids who are going to be fans of his who have not been born yet. You know what I mean? I think of like, you know, Michael Jordan played a basketball, played basketball in 23 years. And everybody in the world, everybody around the world is still, right, if you want to count that. It's still wearing his shoes, you know, he'll be remembered forever. I mean, the album Michael Jackson, but you know.

[00:16:38]Darius: The album Michael Jackson is most known for, but came out before we were born, 83. You know, like literally, we weren't even a twinkle in our parents' eyes. And we know that whole album. And it doesn't even feel like it came out before I was born. It's that ubiquitous. Timeless. And so, yeah, it's true. Marvin Gaye died before I was born. Marvin Gaye died 40 years ago. And yet, let's get it on comes on. People, everybody knows it. Everyone knows that song. He's been dead 40 years, which is insane. But so.

[00:17:12]Jordan: Yeah, it's crazy, man. Yeah, I think about it like, I remember the first time I saw Boyz N The Hood, I was like 18 or 19 and my mom was like, I was pregnant with you when this movie came out. And it's not Citizen Kane, but it's a classic movie. And the fact that people have those memories attached to things like that, that's what connects us and that's what brings us together. And I think that I know that it's easy to succumb to the fear of like, oh, what if nobody likes it? What if it's not unique or what if I look stupid or cringe or whatever? And those thoughts are like human, but it's also like, well, you're gonna die. So like, what's the worst that could happen?

[00:17:52]Darius: Yeah.

[00:17:52]Jordan: Somebody somewhere who didn't do it is gonna talk about it.

[00:17:56]Darius: You know, that is true. You know, if, well, some people post some unfunny, unoriginal reels that I wish they would just keep in the talk. But At least be original. If you're going to post it, at least have to be original. And yes, if it's a fan reel or it's a break, if it was original, God bless you. Post it.

[00:18:17]Jordan: Yeah, shout out to you.

[00:18:18]Darius: Yeah, but just don't remix the same joke you've seen 5000 times. You know, I was to Tammy Terrell, who is ain't no mountain high enough to girl in that song.

[00:18:29]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:18:30]Darius: And Marvin Gaye. And I mean, she died in 1970. That's like 55 years ago, 56 years ago. Dead, gone. And that song, I don't know if it resonates with the children anymore, but like that song is still. It probably does. I mean, how long ago did she record it if she died in 1970?

[00:18:51]Jordan: It's probably recording, what, 60?

[00:18:54]Darius: It's just wild how old some of this stuff is getting. No, it's actually kind of scary. Like the Cosby Show ended in 92, which is 35 years ago.

[00:19:03]Jordan: Basically 35 years ago. Yeah.

[00:19:05]Darius: It's, you know, it lives forever. Do you don't die with your heart. So.

[00:19:09]Jordan: No, I do not. And also don't worry about the critics. Like my favorite one of my favorite quotes of all time is the FDR quote about, or is it Teddy Roosevelt? Teddy Roosevelt, the man in the arena. Only the man in the arena knows the dust and the blood and the sweat. I forget the full quote, but it's great poetry. But yeah, it's just about basically, you know, ignore the critic because they don't know what it's like to be in there. You know, like, don't worry about the comment section because they're commenting on what you made. Like anybody can type about what you did, you know, who cares? Like my mentality is if you could do it, you would do it. And if you couldn't do it and you did it, that still makes you better than people who talked about the people who did it.

[00:19:47]Darius: That's true, but don't ignore us as movie critics. No, we're talking about it.

[00:19:54]Jordan: We're talking about it because we love it.

[00:19:57]Darius: Yeah, You know, us, we're different. We're good critics.

[00:20:01]Jordan: We're different. Not us though. Y'all be safe.

[00:20:04]Darius: All these other critics, **** them. They ain't never done it before. **** them all. No, I don't necessarily agree with one has to be a subject matter expert to critique the art.

[00:20:16]Jordan: Yeah, for sure.

[00:20:18]Darius: But it is important to get it out there and understand that everyone isn't going to like everything. And also understand that like a critic's job is different than a fan's job. You see this often when people compare like the critic score with the Rotten Tomato score. And it's like, well, they're doing two different things. And it's like, I'm going to go see Mortal Kombat on Thursday. I love Mortal Kombat. as a millennial, that's just the first violent video game I had my hands on. I remember sneaking and playing that. movie's going to be bad. That movie's going to be poorly rated. But as a fan, that's not what I'm going for. I know that movie, there's going to be a sharp divergence between the the fan score and the critic score, but I don't, I would be disappointed in a critic if he just reviewed it like a fan, because I know this movie is going to be bad. The first one was bad. But I went to the theater and I loved it. And it was the reboot. The first two were good, I think. And then the reboot from a couple of years ago was a bad, was a technically bad movie, but I enjoyed it and I'm going to go see Mortal Kombat because it's ******* Mortal Kombat. I'll miss a Mortal Kombat movie.

[00:21:23]Jordan: And I like good bad movies. Those are fun.

[00:21:25]Darius: Yeah. State property. One of my favorite terrible movies. Friday is not.

[00:21:35]Jordan: Yeah, Friday.

[00:21:37]Darius: Not to just in case.

[00:21:40]Jordan: That awkward moment is one of my favorite good, favorite bad movies. You know, I love that movie. It is what it is.

[00:21:45]Darius: Have you seen Two Night Stand with Miles Teller?

[00:21:48]Jordan: Miles Teller and.

[00:21:49]Darius: That's a bad movie that I like. I would say the lady's name, but it's changed. I think she's. I don't want to misgender her, but it's.

[00:21:59]Jordan: Oh, I know you're talking about. Yeah.

[00:22:01]Darius: He is something, but I'm not going to even step into that. But yeah. Great bad movie. Terrible movie, though. Yeah. What else? What other some good bad movies that.

[00:22:12]Jordan: Let's talk about that. That's fun. Good bad movies. Hmm. You know what people **** on Ben Affleck's Daredevil? I love that movie.

[00:22:22]Darius: I mean, Best Man Holiday, not a good movie, but.

[00:22:26]Jordan: It's a fun movie. It's a good bad movie. I don't know why they had to kill her off the end, but it's a good bad movie.

[00:22:30]Darius: I cannot believe Boris Chestnut didn't ask for a second take on that scene, man.

[00:22:35]Jordan: He looked like he was trying to like cough up a hairball.

[00:22:39]Darius: It's Maybe they just had a plane to catch and he was like, or something happened. So it might have just been the best take. Like, well, **** it.

[00:22:47]Jordan: You know, it's possible. Or maybe the director just like was ******* him and said, you know what? I'm gonna get you back.

[00:22:52]Darius: But yeah, I mean, understand that a critic's job is not the same as a fad. Put it out there, accept criticism. It's good. Yeah. And you know, you see just when a movie you like gets poorly rated, that doesn't understand that that's the critic's job is something different. So. Right. All right, man, another hypothetical I'm gonna throw at you. If you could go back in time, so it's not a future. If you could go back in time to attend one sporting event, what would it be?

[00:23:23]Jordan: Man, one sporting event? I wrote like 7.

[00:23:25]Darius: Okay.

[00:23:26]Jordan: So my first one, 1936, the Bernalin Olympics, Jesse Owens, record long jump at the time in front of Hitler. I would love to have been there to see that. And the shock on those people's faces.

[00:23:39]Darius: Are you going to leave 1936 immediately afterwards? Are you hanging out?

[00:23:42]Jordan: Oh hell yeah, absolutely. No, I'm hitting the hot tip time machine button right away.

[00:23:46]Darius: All right, just making sure. I don't know if you want to hang out in Germany in 1936.

[00:23:50]Jordan: Yeah, no, there's a reason there's no black.

[00:23:53]Darius: Not many places in 1936, anywhere in 1936.

[00:23:56]Jordan: I wouldn't want to be in Africa in 1936.

[00:23:59]Darius: I'm not well versed in that region, but I imagine that it wasn't great for black American people in 1936 in many places.

[00:24:07]Jordan: Yeah, there's reason there's no black time travel movies. We can look back to like 1985.

[00:24:15]Darius: Untapped market, though. I believe that with the right person not named Jordan Peele. No, no, no, no, no. It could. It could be some. We could make something happen with that. So.

[00:24:24]Jordan: Ryan Coogler, we just want our 10%.

[00:24:29]Darius: One could say centers, though. I guess that was set in the time anyways.

[00:24:32]Jordan: Yeah, I was. Yeah. My next one is the thriller in Manila. Ali versus Foreman um one of the greatest boxing matches of all time literally both their like camps thought each other was going to die like they were trying to like get them to stop the fight several times neither man refused um I'm going to go 1982 um NCAA championship UNC versus Georgetown Michael Jordan's uh first version of the shot yeah that made him famous um I would go both LeBron game sevens, game seven against the Warriors, for me, my money, the greatest game ever. And then game seven against the Spurs, which is probably top five finals game of all time. Gotta go 96, Bulls Jazz, MJ hits the shot, 6.6 seconds left, 5.2 seconds left on the clock. I set the poster right behind me. It was a push off, but we're gonna let it go because I...

[00:25:28]Darius: Full extension, man.

[00:25:30]Jordan: He didn't even try to hide it.

[00:25:33]Darius: I mean, yeah, like Byron Russell literally.

[00:25:37]Jordan: Slid across the whole 4th.

[00:25:40]Darius: That was rough. That was a bad missed call.

[00:25:42]Jordan: He was the first person to ever moonwalk on a basketball court. And then my last one is Patriots Giants. The first one in what was it, 2000, what, 7, 07? Yeah.

[00:25:53]Darius: Cause the year they went out.

[00:25:54]Jordan: Or I guess 08, cause yeah, 08. Yeah.

[00:25:56]Darius: Tuba would have been January 08, but it would have been the 2007 season.

[00:25:59]Jordan: Yeah, 07 Patriots. Yeah. So those are mine. What you got?

[00:26:03]Darius: Just so same Bron Spurs heat series, but I won game six. I want to see the Ray Allen shot.

[00:26:09]Jordan: Oh, that's a good one.

[00:26:10]Darius: Stepping back in the corner because they were down six with like 40 seconds left. And the Spurs actually had started roping off, which you never, ever do that.

[00:26:18]Jordan: Never do that.

[00:26:19]Darius: And like you could literally like smell, I mean, I wasn't there, but I bet they could like smell the champagne.

[00:26:24]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:26:25]Darius: Kawhi missed those two free throws.

[00:26:27]Jordan: And Bron hit that crazy three at first, remember?

[00:26:30]Darius: Bosch got that rebound because they dunked it wasn't in the game because it was like weird. I don't know. Greg Popovich was sleeping or something.

[00:26:37]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:26:37]Darius: And Ray Allen, man, that's a he caught that ball and he.

[00:26:40]Jordan: Stepped down, did not look down and laced it.

[00:26:45]Darius: I just remember, man, I lived in California at the time and yeah, you know, work ends at like five o'clock in the normal time. And keep in mind, we're three hours behind. The game starts at like eight right. So I get home and I went and got in and out. It's one of those things if you In-N-Out Burger and I got to the crib and the end of the first quarter. And it was, I mean, it's probably, it's tough to be game 7, 2016. It's tough to beat Kobe Celtics 08.

[00:27:21]Jordan: That was a good one.

[00:27:25]Darius: We went through some years with some bad finals, but we did. Lakers Kings 2002 game seven was tough with the Kobe airball, the alley-oop to Shaq and Shaq.

[00:27:38]Jordan: Bryant to Shaq.

[00:27:40]Darius: You know, but it's tough to be that Spurs Heat series was probably the best seven game series I've seen only because like 2016 That's true. So I always rank Spurs. He does a better seven game series because the games were close outside of seven.

[00:27:59]Jordan: That's valid.

[00:28:00]Darius: Yeah, that's valid. But I mean, 2016, that game seven made-up for the fact that it was 6 blowouts.

[00:28:06]Jordan: Correct.

[00:28:06]Darius: And so it's so many things that happened in that game. Like Draymond had a triple double. No one remembers him.

[00:28:11]Jordan: Yeah, he dropped 30, he made like 5 threes.

[00:28:13]Darius: Has he scored 30 points since?

[00:28:15]Jordan: No. He literally had the game of his life and no one cares.

[00:28:20]Darius: Game 7, 30 points.

[00:28:23]Jordan: Yeah.

[00:28:24]Darius: And it'll no one.

[00:28:25]Jordan: Yeah, like every two, 15 and seven.

[00:28:26]Darius: Yeah, which is just, that's so out of his mind. It's like Hardy. It is. It's to say it would be, it'd be like Dennis Rodman dropping 40. Like it's like, what happened? Wait, is this right? Am I reading this correctly? Like, you know, it's just, and losing. To get that game and Draymond and lose.

[00:28:46]Jordan: Right. And by the way, that's the crazy part, because if he had not played like that, they would have got blown out. Because Steph was not great in that game. Clay was great in that game.

[00:28:53]Darius: The game, the final score was like 88, 84, something like that.

[00:28:56]Jordan: 93, 89.

[00:28:58]Darius: Yeah, and like the Kyrie shot, because that was a tie game, the block.

[00:29:04]Jordan: Oh. Oh my God.

[00:29:06]Darius: So yeah, that game seven was so great. It made-up for the fact that the first six games were blown out.

[00:29:10]Jordan: It did, it did, you're right, it did. And we had that, remember that iconic LeBron meme after he swatted Steph's **** in game six? No, that one too.

[00:29:18]Darius: That was after game four. They were down 3-1.

[00:29:20]Jordan: Yeah, with the headphones. And then there was the one remember when he blocked Steph shot and he said some crazy **** to him. He could tell you he said some crazy ****.

[00:29:25]Darius: Oh yeah.

[00:29:26]Jordan: And remember, and everybody said, he was saying like, tell Aisha cook for me or some **** like that.

[00:29:31]Darius: But like the thing is, the thing that gets underrated about that is J.R. Smith making Andre Iguodala move his hands. Like because Andre Iguodala is, and J.R. Smith undercuts something and he has to go over, which buys LeBron like an extra half second.

[00:29:43]Jordan: A half a second.

[00:29:46]Darius: He's at like the free throw line when AI gets his AI, Andre Guidala gets his gather. And I don't know how, to this day, I don't understand. I was at Brick House on Hillsborough. And I just remember how it erupted. It's just, I didn't think the words actually would lose until that block. Even then, I wasn't sure.

[00:30:11]Jordan: Even then, I wasn't sure, bro. Because I was like, Steph's going to hit a three and my heart will be broken. It's crazy.

[00:30:18]Darius: I just didn't think he was drilling to that block. Once he hit that block, I was like, oh **** they're going to do this.

[00:30:25]Jordan: So there's actually the story behind that. So LeBron, that's basically a set play they run on defense pretty much. Like LeBron tells all his guys, no matter what happens on the fast break don't give up in play just