RECORDED: MARCH 31, 2026
Are AI Book Summaries Cheating? (WOOM 03/31/26)
Show Notes & Highlights
Topics Covered
- AI book recaps and whether summaries count as cheating
- Last meal before a poetry retreat
- Beer ranking prompt
- Things ruined by becoming a rich person’s hobby
- Adult disappointment
- Executive dysfunction and time management
- Political survey question about deterrence and society
Best Questions
- Is using AI to summarize a nonfiction book cheating if you bought the book?
- What things were ruined because they became a rich person’s hobby?
- Is certainty of punishment a better deterrent than severity?
Best Observations
- Some nonfiction books should have been articles, and summaries can be a practical way to absorb the useful information.
- The first beer of the weekend is treated like a ritual ending the work week.
- Making a hobby expensive changes who gets to participate in it.
Best Debate
AI book recaps: Darius frames summaries as a more efficient form of information transfer; Jordan compares the practice to study aids as long as the person does not claim to have read the full book.
Major Themes
- AI
- Reading
- Class
- Hobbies
- Adulthood
- Time management
- Crime/policy
Full Episode Transcript
Transcript
00:00:00 Jordan: The outfits with the ****** Instagram quotes. I don't know. He just bothers the **** out of me.
00:00:05 Darius: So you don't hate the foreigners. You just hate all the foreigners. Okay. Whatever you got to tell yourself. It's just those three guys. Welcome to Out the Trump with Jordan and Darius. My name is Darius. That's these all up in your area on all socials.
00:00:22 Jordan: And I'm Jordan. That's Jordan. Be riding on all socials.
00:00:24 Darius: This is our segment we title what's on our mind, things we saw on the internet, things we've been wanting to discuss. And so real quick before we start, I have an ethical question for you. All right. So I'm mostly a non-fiction reader for the most part, right? And so I don't a lot of non-fiction books are researchers and academics but they're not great writers. So it tends to be, tend to be boring pros, not really interesting. They're just kind of giving you information. You know, it's like reading an encyclopedia.
00:00:55 Jordan: Correct.
00:00:56 Darius: And so I don't, like some of those books I just don't finish because they're just that poorly written. Information is good, but they're poorly written. So what I've taken to lately is, and this is only for books that I've purchased, so I'm not, I won't, I wouldn't do no author like that. I'm trying to write a book right now. That shit's hard. I wouldn't steal it. So for books I've purchased that I haven't finished that are non-fiction, I've been Putting them in, the AI I use is Gemini. There's like ChatGPT, Claude, whatever one you use.
00:01:22 Jordan: Yeah, AI mode, all that. Yeah.
00:01:23 Darius: Saying, give me 5,000 word recaps. And that's how I've just been absorbing that information. Is that cheating?
00:01:29 Jordan: I mean, I don't know. Is SparkNose considered cheating? Because it's the same concept. You're not taking the test. So I mean, I'd say no. Did you read the book? No, but I mean, I.
00:01:40 Darius: Wouldn't be claiming I read the book. I would not make that for stolen valid.
00:01:44 Jordan: Yeah. I mean, as long as you, and honestly, I agree with you because a lot of the, I know you, so I know you probably, you read a lot of sociology type books and, things of that nature and stuff. So I mean, I don't know that I want to read 300 pages of, why are people the way they are necessarily? That's obviously like I love that kind of study information, but that's why I just like read a lot of articles on those things because that just is catered more to my attention span with that sort of content.
00:02:13 Darius: And to be truth, a lot of these non-fiction books should have been articles. Like you just, and a lot of them, that's how they start. Like they were published in like the Atlantic and they got a book deal and they just, but they only really know.
00:02:24 Jordan: So why not stretch it out? It's.
00:02:25 Darius: Like those TV shows that are movies, but they need 8 episodes, so they just meander for a little bit.
00:02:30 Jordan: Right, correct.
00:02:31 Darius: And so the way I justified it is I'm taking the information and presenting it to myself in a more efficient way, right? Right. Is that not what a book is? That's a researcher taking years of his research and presenting it to me in a more efficient way. So he might have read 1000 books to write those 300 pages. I'm just taking another step.
00:02:51 Jordan: You know, it's an abbreviated annotation, so to speak.
00:02:58 Darius: Okay. Fair enough. So we'll start it with this here. Just a quick question to warm the crowd up. So let's say you got you heading out on a poetry retreat, right? But your options to cook when you're on this retreat are going to be extremely limited. Right. So night before, you can have any food, any meal you want. What is the meal you're having? You're off on this tree for like 90 days. So you're got it's not a week where you can just come back. Got you. 90 days. You're going away. What's the meal before you head out to this poetry retreat?
00:03:33 Jordan: It's a good question. I'm going to go, I'm going to have like a smorgasbord of ****. I'm going to hold you. So I'm going to have like, start off with like charcuterie board for like an appetizer. Then I'm going to do maybe some St. tacos from like a heavy entree or a heavy, heavy hors d'oeuvre. And then I'm going to round it out with a crab boil.
00:03:59 Darius: Okay.
00:03:59 Jordan: And just eat till I pass out.
00:04:04 Darius: I could **** with that. I really, really love good chicken parm. And you give me some fried chicken, some cheese, some pasta, some good red sauce.
00:04:14 Jordan: Tomatoes.
00:04:14 Darius: Tomatoes. You got the fresh mozzarella melted over the top of it. Yeah, a little bit of garnish. Fresh basil, chicken parm for me, man.
00:04:24 Jordan: Yeah.
00:04:25 Darius: I'm with you on a charcuterie board. I love a charcuterie board. Me too. I never make them because they're a pain in the ***. And it's just me. So it's like, But when it's on the menu, I'm ordering it. So yeah, I think that's a, I think I would go with chicken parm on that one.
00:04:41 Jordan: Yeah, I **** with a good char cucci board.
00:04:45 Darius: So keeping with the theme here, I got, what was it here? I got a, you need to rank these five beers, right? So yeah, we got 5 beers. Number one is the free beer. Number 2 is the first beer of the weekend. Number 3 is the AM airport beer. Number 4 is a campfire beer. And #5 is a shower beer. How do you rank in those five?
00:05:09 Jordan: How am I ranking those five? Okay, I'm gonna say, I mean, the list is not too bad, to be honest with you, but I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go first beer of the weekend, number one. I'm gonna go AM airport beer #2, because that means you're on vacation and you're about to go somewhere and get lit. I'm gonna go free beer #3, campfire beer #4 because we don't really do a whole lot of camping. I ain't camped since I left the Boy Scouts. Troop 937. I don't remember the extra troop number. And then I'm going to go shower beer #5 because if it's life's gotten that bad for you, it's time to call the lady and call the Lord and call that 1-800 number and take them 12 steps.
00:05:53 Darius: To blacken up the inquiry, we'll replace campfire beer with like, I don't know, beach beer, Airbnb beer.
00:06:00 Jordan: So kickback beer, garage beer with the boys. Yeah.
00:06:04 Darius: Pretty similar list. I started with first beer of the weekend. That first beer At 10 o'clock. I usually get there about 930.
00:06:12 Jordan: Yeah.
00:06:13 Darius: That is that it's hard to beat that one. That one's great. Especially just because you know, you worked all week and like all my heavy lifts are done. Like the only thing left to work out is like that Saturday little light jog. And it's just like, yeah, it's like the week is complete. The week is not complete till you had that Friday afternoon, Friday evening beer.
00:06:31 Jordan: Yeah, for me, the weekend didn't start till like that first like Friday libation.
00:06:36 Darius: Correct. Airport beer for sure. They taste better there. They just do you got your suitcase there and like every like you just you're sitting down. It's the middle of the morning. There's no judgment. Yeah. That's why I don't like I don't mind when people say, you know, I showed it to the airport 2 hours early. I'm like, so They probably just wanted to eat, eat and drink. Like don't get me wrong, I don't like to just sit at the airport for hours on end. But if I get to the airport earlier, I might have a long layover. I mean, it's just like sitting in the mall now. Airports aren't like they used to be. Third one, we're going to go campfire beer for me on that one. Because the free beer, the beer I drink is cheap anyway. So getting a free one is nice, but it's not like.
00:07:20 Jordan: Right. You saved me $4.
00:07:22 Darius: I appreciate it. Don't get me wrong. I'm gonna take it. Yeah. But it's not like. getting your meal comped, which is actually, that's a plug, that's, and then again, shower beer. It's time to have some conversations.
00:07:37 Jordan: With yourself and a licensed professional counselor.
00:07:40 Darius: Like water's getting in the can. Is water like, how are you using it? Like where's your free hand even? Aren't you busy in the shower? Where are you even setting it while you shower? I got, where are you putting this beer?
00:07:52 Jordan: Why do you have, I guess you have, you have the shower or a shower rack or whatever, you know, I don't know. Have you seen any of those? You probably haven't, but there's these TikToks, this TikTok trend where people have been doing like random **** like that, not beer, but like one of them was like, this guy goes, eating a banana in the shower to see what it feels like to be a gorilla in the rainforest. The problem was the guy was black. So the comments went crazy.
00:08:25 Darius: Okay, so which would be more problematic if a white dude did that TikTok or a black dude?
00:08:29 Jordan: If a white dude did it, there'd be no racial overtones. The black dude did it, he set himself up for what happened in those comments?
00:08:38 Darius: I don't really like why people say gorillas. I'm just, I'm just off that.
00:08:43 Jordan: You know what, that's true. I don't even like when they talk about monkeys. I'm not, you know, Plenty of the Apes is a little too rude for me.
00:08:48 Darius: Yeah, anytime you like, I'm trying to be a gorilla, I'm like, walk me through that. Yeah, I'm not casting aspersions. I just need you to explain it to me.
00:08:58 Jordan: No, I feel you. I feel you. Yeah, explain that to me, please.
00:09:05 Darius: I, remember when the that be dancing in the, the grooving gorilla. He used to call himself the grooving gorilla. And I don't know how he made it to his age without knowing why that was a bad look. But he did change his name to his credit, but I don't know. I need to know.
00:09:24 Jordan: I need to talk to the people in his life. It also reminds me of like when before Latto changed her name from Mulatto as if that's a big difference. But you know, I thought that was a little weird.
00:09:32 Darius: No one talks about it.
00:09:34 Jordan: Did. Which is kind of crazy because that's not even a rebrand. That's just a shortening.
00:09:39 Darius: It's yeah. And then I forget who, but like. I was like some person went viral for being Donkey Kong, a black dude being Donkey Kong on Halloween. Yeah. And it was a Mario themed party.
00:09:54 Jordan: I'm like, yeah, you didn't. That's you didn't. I'm going to guess he was the only black person at the party. That's just the vibe that I get here in that story.
00:10:03 Darius: It was one picture, so I'm not sure. I'm sure there was more people that weren't pictured in the party, but the picture was, he was the only muscle in the picture.
00:10:12 Jordan: No one was like Diddy Kong. Yeah. Or like those Halloween photos where it's like a group of friends and they went, it was like Scooby-Doo and all them. Or like, you know, the Mystery Machine, you know, the whole crew. And then they have like the one black friend is Shaggy or Scooby. Like that's always a little, a little weird.
00:10:30 Darius: Not even a little. That's a lot of weird.
00:10:32 Jordan: It's a lot of weird.
00:10:35 Darius: Yeah, it's, I'll never forget the time I was at, I might've told the story on the pod before, getting old, repeating myself, but I was at somebody's birthday party and it was like a masterpiece theater. Someone was figuring something out, mystery thing. And everyone had to play a character. And I was the only black guy at the party. And it really was random. Wasn't nobody owned nothing, but like cards went out and the character I pulled was prisoner. And my homegirl, I'm not going to name her, but I'll always appreciate her for this. She looked at me, looked at my card and just whispered, you want to switch? I was like, yes. I just don't want to. Please. And we switched and she never said a thing about it. And I really appreciated that. So moving on to the next a random prompt I found on the internet. The tweet says, what thing was ruined because it turned into a rich person's hobby? Before we start reading random people that responded, what do you have?
00:11:36 Jordan: Okay, I mean, the short answer is everything. Podcasting, having fun.
00:11:47 Darius: You had at least one original one though, right?
00:11:49 Jordan: No, I'm kidding. No, I mean, I think probably I saw some good answers online. I mean, I've been thinking about it a lot for a lot of the day, to be honest with you. I'd probably say we talked about this earlier, but I'd say kind of they kind of killed the sneaker resale market. Like before it was like just regular people doing it. And then now it's like Uber rich people reselling for 10x, you know, the original or retail price.
00:12:22 Darius: Look, I'm not crazy. Look, I participate in resale culture, so I can't. I don't resell, but like if I want a shoe and it's over, I can't get it. I'm just going to pay resale. But what bothers me is when people say shoes used to be so accessible, they used to just be in the store. And true, they were in the store, but they were never accessible. Those shoes were like $150 in the 90s. True. Right.
00:12:45 Jordan: Yeah.
00:12:46 Darius: And so what I hear when people say that is I don't want the shoes to be accessible. I just wish when I was inside the velvet rope. Like because they were never accessible. These were never regular, they were in the store, but could nobody just go and buy them. People were like, having the Jays was still a status symbol. And so you just miss when you could flex the status. You don't actually care about these shoes being accessible. You just miss when you were inside the velvet rope. And the fact that Jordans were hard to get was part of the thing the whole time. Yeah, they were in the store. They just were very expensive. And I mean, now, even now, I think it's kind of like a dated belief. It's got a little tighter, but all of 2024, I got every shoe that I wanted for retail. 2025, there was some things that I missed that I paid resale for, but it's not like 2020 where, man.
00:13:38 Jordan: No, that **** was created in 2020.
00:13:40 Darius: From like 18 to 21, it would turn 10 a.m. and it would immediately say sold out.
00:13:46 Jordan: Like you couldn't, everything was, yeah, you couldn't get anything.
00:13:48 Darius: The app was like broken. And so that sucked. And I admit that.
00:13:52 Jordan: Was, I just like stopped buying shoes during that time period or stopped trying to buy Jays during that time period. I was like, well, plug it. I'll wait.
00:13:57 Darius: And I think that's why Nike fixed it because like, you need to create a new generation of people who like the shoes and if they.
00:14:04 Jordan: Can't get them and if no one has them, then right?
00:14:07 Darius: That's the problem. It's a luxury. And you're not generate, like Disney adults, however you feel about them, were once Disney children. And if you need a new generation of Disney children to create Disney adults and Disney adults. So, but I had one. Nightclubs.
00:14:34 Jordan: You know what? That's a good one. They destroyed nightclubs. They just destroyed. Everything is don't even have fun anymore. Section culture has taken over the bottle girls with the sparklers and the signs and ****. It's got to look like you just want to Oscar every night. Yeah. You can't just pop out.
00:14:52 Darius: You got to make it's got to be a thing.
00:14:55 Jordan: You got to have like 300 you spare just to get that out.
00:14:59 Darius: Someone made a good point and they were like, When we were coming up, going out or whatever, you obviously we were broke and young, but it was a time where you could be broke and not feel left out. Like you could still go places, pop out, you still.
00:15:19 Jordan: Pregame at home, but you could still have a good time when you got there.
00:15:22 Darius: 10 bucks at the door. And if you didn't have no section, that was fine. Like the sections were a thing, but they weren't the whole club and you didn't need one to go out. And you could just pop out, pay the little $10 cover, nurse your little two drinks and just be outside. You were broke, but you could still participate in society. Now if you broke, you better make it a Netflix joint because you ain't going nowhere with that little 50. No, I could go out. I remember circa 2011, 2012, I could leave my crib with $50 to my name. And be straight. Like, was I falling out? No, but I was straight. I didn't feel poor. I was good.
00:15:59 Jordan: Like you had, you had your 20 bucks you already saved to Uber home. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You had your 10 bucks whatever for the 20 bucks. That's key for the cover charge.
00:16:05 Darius: 2011, we was dudes driving.
00:16:10 Jordan: I wasn't driving in 2011. So I was good.
00:16:13 Darius: This was for the listeners. This was, I'm not going to lie. This was 2011 before Uber taxis was cost prohibited.
00:16:21 Jordan: Oh, true. Yeah.
00:16:23 Darius: This was just be happy. There's an app on your phone now that can just bring you a driver. But yeah, maybe you can do it for ten bucks. Drinks was $8, you know, like and even then he was like, damn, eight. You get three drinks, pay your cover.
00:16:37 Jordan: Yeah. Eight felt like a steal or eight for like highway robbery. Yeah.
00:16:40 Darius: Like, here's some music. Maybe talk to a girl, catch a couple of dances, go on your merry way. And like you, all you needed was 50. Now. I, 50 bucks, bro.
00:16:51 Jordan: 50 bucks. You can't even get, you can't even get a buzz of 50 bucks at a club.
00:16:56 Darius: Unless you aggressively pregame.
00:16:58 Jordan: Right. Yeah. But that's what you're saying. **** the night up.
00:17:01 Darius: So I would say nightclubs going out. It used to be, obviously there was tears to it, but you could participate. But now like everybody's a baller. Everyone wants to buy sections. Everyone. Yeah. And now, because everyone is doing it, you not doing it stands out. And it used to be the case that sections was just for athletes and drug dealers. all the regular people from regular jobs were in general.
00:17:29 Jordan: They're so dominant in clubs now. Like there's no room to literally walk in the club. Like there's no space to walk. There's no space to dance. Like it's just a long hallway. And then everything else is a section.
00:17:40 Darius: Someone said the Washington Post. I thought that was a good one.
00:17:45 Jordan: The newspaper? Yeah.
00:17:46 Darius: Jeff Bezos bought it and just gutted it.
00:17:49 Jordan: Oh yeah, that's a good one. Streaming services. Is that a rich people thing though?
00:17:56 Darius: I don't know.
00:17:56 Jordan: Well, the ads, you know, I'd say, and then them all buying each other, that kind of ****** ** the consumer experience. I'd say an underrated one is Halloween.
00:18:07 Darius: Okay.
00:18:08 Jordan: Because before it was like, you could just go to a store, get your nice little costume or piece it together through your, in your house or whatever. And then you go on social media now and it's like, Travis Scott had like the ******* Batmobile with this costume and ****. Like, you know what I mean? Or like had like diamond like teeth for their like Halloween cup, like, you know what I'm saying? Grills and ****. Not that they ruined it, but it does kind of pill your experience by comparison.
00:18:36 Darius: I will say I did, this is unrelated, but someone related to how we're talking about how much it costs to go out. Someone made a good point and they were like, my friend was, this lady was saying that her friends were complaining that every time she didn't want to hang out with their friends, it cost them 100 to $200. And she was like, that's because you don't want nobody in your house. And we stopped. I was like, that's a good one.
00:18:55 Jordan: That's a good one.
00:19:00 Darius: You and I don't really apply to, but everyone's too good to hang out at a dive bar on a Friday night now. You've got to go somewhere Instagramable. You can't, you know, it's just.
00:19:10 Jordan: If we want to talk about Instagram places.
00:19:13 Darius: So a lot of these wounds are self-inflicted because you think you don't want anyone in your space and you think you're too good to hang out in places that, you know, got the $8 drinks. And so it's a two-edged sword. You have to. when I was coming up, going out like that, I had the apartment that was closest to downtown and it was in my crib all the time. Even if I wasn't going out, they would stop at my spot, chill for a little bit. Then they went out. And so you have to be, if you want community, you have to participate in it, Right?
00:19:44 Jordan: And nobody goes to anybody's house anymore.
00:19:46 Darius: No one goes to anyone's house. Everyone wants to meet at the restaurant and the restaurant is got the green walls.
00:19:53 Jordan: And the neon lights or the neon signs?
00:19:57 Darius: And then you go to some fancy bar where, there's stairs that wind and da da da da da and every cocktail is $19. Well, that's why it cost you 200 bucks to hang out with your friends. Correct. There's nothing different from all that says you got to do that.
00:20:12 Jordan: And those God forsaken Instagram brunches with the DJs?
00:20:15 Darius: No, man. If you walk into a restaurant and you see a DJ, you just know off rip, the food is made.
00:20:20 Jordan: Yeah, the food is made. You're waiting a long time for the food. The service isn't going to be good. The drinks going to be watered down. They're going to be overpriced. And the hookah's going to be 50 to 75 bucks.
00:20:30 Darius: And that's fine if that's what you want to do. But it's like, I'm just. I like restaurants for food. I'm not going to restaurants for a vibe. I'm not opposed to a vibe, but if I'm going to a restaurant, I'm there to chase the food. And so if I walk in and I see a DJ, It depends on if it was my choice, I'm like, all right, let's try something else. But if it's someone else's situation, I'm not gonna be a party boomer. But you just have to know off the rip. Like the biggest time that the food is mid is if you walk in and see a DJ. Like you just know that's not what they're doing.
00:21:02 Jordan: Oh, almost every time. Oh, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. You can't even talk because you can't hear each other.
00:21:06 Darius: No, and you sit down in the middle and like the sound is always ****** ** because it's not a club. It's a restaurant, but acoustics aren't right for DJs. And the music sounds like it's on top of your head. and the food isn't very good. And like you said, the service is bad and all of the above. So we got some lighthearted stuff out the way. We're going to pivot to you to talk about what you brought to the, was it adult disappointment you want to talk about?
00:21:34 Jordan: Yeah, there was a tweet that when I was kind of been going around, let me pull it up. So the original tweet was actually, no, yeah, there was a said my greatest adult disappointment was discovering that bad people get away with everything. And then of course, everyone has kind of been flooding with their answer to that question or their opinion on that. And honestly, that tweet did hit because it was just like everything we were taught growing up was like, yeah, be a good person, work hard, be kind to one another. And then you see what the evil people will have in their life and you're like, I'm sorry, what's the, not what's the reward, but it's almost like, what's the point? Now again, the point is to do the right thing because it's the right thing. Of course, I'm not saying be ******. because you'll get rich. But it is funny and ironic the way that life kind of shows that some of that stuff doesn't matter as much as we think it does, at least in terms of, I'll say, material or financial success.
00:22:33 Darius: Yeah, you know, do the right thing because it's intrinsic and valuable to you.
00:22:38 Jordan: Correct.
00:22:38 Darius: But if you're expecting it to be rewarded in life, you're probably going to be rewarded. That's not going to say it doesn't, but Yeah, man. Sometimes I would say oftentimes the bad guys win.
00:22:51 Jordan: You know, they really do. They win a lot.
00:22:55 Darius: They really, really do. And yeah, I don't really know. Like it's, you know, and it's like with the Hove and it's like, yeah, I'm the biggest whole fan. Right. And it's like, there's just no ethical way to get a billion dollars. It's just not like, Systemically, no. Yeah. You cannot, the level of wealth required to get there, you just, you can't do that being ethical in your decision making. And that's fine as long as you're not breaking any laws. Like ethics aren't laws and you know, you earn that wealth legally. And that's fine. And it's yours. And a lot of these billionaires do employ a lot of people that, like I said, I'd have made more millionaires in the lottery. And so there are, positive externalities for someone chasing that level of wealth. But it is just true. Like it's basically impossible to achieve that level of wealth while making. That someone getting stopped. Correct. Like it's just not. You're doing business deals. If you win them all, well, someone lost them.
00:24:05 Jordan: Right, exactly.
00:24:06 Darius: The other person was on the side of the table, and I'm sure they don't feel great about you winning all these business deals.
00:24:12 Jordan: You negotiated versus someone. You know what I mean? You know, even like, and again, so I watched, did you watch any of the Joe Budden Power where Mark Mark Hill talked about this topic? I did not. It was a great debate. You should definitely watch it for sure. He made a lot of great points. And it's like, you know, again, no one's saying Jay-Z is a bad person because he is a billionaire. We're saying capitalism breeds greed, which and that's a byproduct of becoming a billionaire. Like, that's just, you know, reality. And it's, you know, like LeBron James, I love LeBron. I don't think he's a bad person at all, but he made a lot of money from Nike. Nike has those sweatshops, cheap labor, people's profit. Like, that's just the system. That's what it does.
00:24:55 Darius: Well, just like people applaud, and it's not just him, but people applaud player empowerment. But it's like, it's really superstar empowerment because, midway through the 2018 season when LeBron dogs it in December because the team isn't good enough. And then they trade, I think it was like, everybody. But like, ask the players who got traded how that felt. You know, like he was empowered to trade half the roster, but they, I'm sure they didn't love that. You know, it's like, Right. Superstars amassing all this power means someone loses the power. And like all these, like, I want this, I want to go get Anthony Davis, but like 4 guys got traded out who might have liked living in LA. No one cares about them. You know, like it's just.
00:25:40 Jordan: And he's better than all them combined. So it was a smart trade.
00:25:43 Darius: It was a great, it was a smart thing to do. But yeah, you know, like you said, if you're winning all these situations.
00:25:48 Jordan: There is collateral damage.
00:25:51 Darius: What I will say is people got the Joe Budden TV show, no TV, Freudian slip. The Show Budden podcast is a TV show. Those people are on there playing characters within a TV show. So when you see often like, why is it Mark Lamont Hill? I couldn't handle how he's arguing with these idiots. And that's like saying.
00:26:07 Jordan: Paid handsomely.
00:26:08 Darius: That. And that's like saying, I don't understand why Martin puts up with Cole. Like you're watching the show.
00:26:14 Jordan: Yeah, they're playing roles. These are characters. They're fictionalized versions of themselves. You know what I'm saying? in what other world would you, would Mark Lamont Hill, who's as educated as he is, need to debate economics with no disrespect? Zhair Franklin, ish, Joe Budden, you know, it's.
00:26:34 Darius: Like a real estate developer. That one, he probably knows that thing or two. Yeah, I imagine he's pro-capitalism. But what I will say is that Mark Lamont Hill would look like, obviously he's a very smart man, but he would look different Right. And I'm sure he'd hold his own. Oh yeah, for sure. And I'm sure, but it would not be what that was.
00:27:00 Jordan: It wouldn't be such a stark, yeah.
00:27:04 Darius: And you know, that economist would say, I'm not an economist with that, you know, while yes, capitalism has winners and losers, but the rising tide lifts all the boats and it's not going to lift every boat. But you know, Mark Zuckerberg, I think Facebook is responsible for 43 millionaires. the six people who founded Facebook, however many are all stupid rich. Most of them billionaires. But just between salaries and stock options and the people on the periphery, like 40 something people became millionaires just working at Facebook, being around, getting stock options. And the same thing with Google, but Did Mark Zuckerberg go out to do that on purpose? No, he was chasing his own wealth. But again, the positive externalities come from that. So. Yeah, exactly.
00:27:50 Jordan: I agree.
00:27:51 Darius: But yeah, people got to, like you said, Mark is Mark Lamont Hill is paid handsomely for that. And it's part of the whole, like everyone has a character. Like there's a gesture, there's a host. He's the smart guy on the show. It's no different than watching CNN. Those are, the cameras go off, the right shakes up. They're like, hey, we 8 o'clock tomorrow. Right. You know, like that's, those debates are.
00:28:13 Jordan: Yeah, it's like, Hannity and Combs.
00:28:15 Darius: Yeah. And it's like, it's not like they don't hold, genuinely hold these positions, but it's all a prediction, you know?
00:28:21 Jordan: For sure.
00:28:22 Darius: So moving on to time management or your executive function, I think we got here.
00:28:28 Jordan: Yeah, executive dysfunction. Yeah, so I was actually talking to a friend a couple of days ago. We were talking about like life and work-life balance and building routines and particularly like working out and stuff like that. And she was telling me, you know, I wanted to go to the gym, but last few weeks I've just been dealing with so much like executive dysfunction. I never, I had not heard that term before, so I looked it up and it turns out it's actually something that explains my life a lot. Actually, when I went and read up on it and watched a couple of YouTube videos on it. over the last couple of days. And it's, basically just kind of lays out the anxiety that comes with planning things and having trouble executing said plan, paralysis by analysis, things, those are kind of factors or symptoms of that phenomenon, if you will. So I thought it was pretty interesting because I'll be thinking of things like, I don't know if you do this, but I'll be like, oh, I have so much I need to accomplish. Okay, cool. So I need to do this, and this today. And then I'm like, damn, that's a lot of ****. I don't know where to start. It seems like a big task. And I'm like, that's overwhelming. And then you put it off and then you shame yourself for not getting it done. And then you're like, I got to make up for tomorrow by doing even more stuff. So it becomes a snowball effect of like unproductivity and like self judgment. And then of course, through all that, you just get nothing done.
00:29:43 Darius: Yeah, I have experienced that. One thing that helps for me is I try to automate all the low stakes decisions. I think I said this on the pod earlier or another pod where it's like, I have to go into the office three days a week. Sunday, I pick all three fits for the office throughout the week. Yeah. And so that way, if I wake up 10 minutes late or something goes wrong in the morning, that's one less decision I have to make. Breakfast every day is a banana and some coffee and some apple cinnamon oats, which keeps me out of the Bojangles line, which keeps me on track with my calories. Sunday, I plan my lunches. And do I stick to it all the time? No, but like, it's easier to focus at work and accomplish like the cognitively demanding tasks when I don't worry about what I'm eating. Am I staying in line with my macros and, you know, and so like, what helps me is trying to automate as many of the low stakes decisions as I can. And so I try to maximize as much downtime. Like it's rare that I'