Weapons (2025)

Darius: All right, cut there. What do you want to watch next week?

Jordan: Have you seen Sleepy Hollow?

Darius: I've never even heard of that. I mean, I've heard of it. I don't even know what it's about.

Jordan: It's a horror slash thriller with Johnny Depp. Miranda Richardson. The duty played Dumbledore. Christina Richie.

Darius: I'm in.

Jordan: Okay. Cool for Halloween.

Darius: I'll get a copy up either Thursday or Friday. So Sleepy Hallow it is.

Jordan: Hey guys, welcome to Out the Trunk Pod with Jordan and Darius. My name is Jordan. You can find me on all socials at Jordy V Writing.

Darius: And I'm Darius. That's D's all up in the area on all socials.

Jordan: This is our movie review segment. We're going to be reviewing weapons. Just came out this year. Starring Josh Brolin, Julia Garner, Alden Enrich, Austin Abrams, Benedict Wong, Amy Madigan, and Carrie Christopher. Weapons is about where nearly an entire 3rd grade class in a small town mysteriously vanishes from their homes in the middle of the night. The shock community fractures. A teacher, a grieving parent, and others are drawn into an escalating, terrifying search for answers, questioning what supernatural force or human evil is behind the disappearances. Let's toss it to you, frag one.

Darius: Act one, we're going to call it the vanishing. A quiet suburban town is plunged into immediate chaos and suspicion when 17 elementary school children from the same class mysteriously disappear from their beds at 2.17 AM, leaving no trace behind. Start this thing off by saying this is so football season started a couple of weeks ago, not to date the podcast. I must say this is the first movie that, because I watch on Mondays, this is the first movie that I didn't feel like I'd rather be watching Monday Night Football. So it was really good. It was, it kept me engaged. It was, the mystery was nice. And I must say that is a, not that the movies we previewed were bad, but I just really like football.

Jordan: And it's like, not for you.

Darius: Yeah, I got, the game was good and I'm like, I don't even care because this movie is, I'm locked in on this movie. So.

Jordan: What you got for football season? Yeah, for football season, I usually watch them either start Saturday during the day or I do Saturday, Sunday night, like after the last game or Monday after the last game for the most part. Yes. What I want to say first of all, Julia Garner is having a ******* year. She so she played the the main character. She was also in. Fantastic Four, she was a silver surfer. I think she was in another movie this year called, was it the Wolfman? I think I want to say it was.

Darius: I was going to pretend like that one didn't happen.

Jordan: Oh, well, she wasn't killing it though. She was great.

Darius: You know, I get it though. When you get your break, you just got to grab all of the road. You got to grab it all.

Jordan: Yeah, you just got to get it how you live.

Darius: You know, ask Daniel Kalua tomorrow, the deals might dry up. So ****. Yeah, man. You got to scoop him. You got to scoop him. But no, other than Wolfman, which was not good. She's been on. I've liked her since. So she had a role in the Americans. I first I was introduced to her, the Americans, and then Ozark. I've heard Ozark.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: So, yeah, shout out to Julia Gardner. You're having a year. I had one of my notes here that I deleted from my rundown was Julia Gardner. Woo. So Julia Gardner.

Jordan: Yeah, she's great.

Darius: Did no one have guns in this movie except for the criminal? What is that? What city in America is this gunless?

Jordan: Would have been so quick if they used their guns. By the way, it's a small town, so I'm assuming they're Second Amendment people. That's just the vibe I got watching the movie. So I thought that was a little bit of a plot hole.

Darius: Yeah, so I mean I've said this before on the pot. I don't demand movies be realistic. I demand they stay true to the world that was written. So if in this world gun ownership was not mass proliferated like it is in the real world, then it makes, I won't call it a plot hole. It just was given the modern version of where guns are in America. It's just bizarre to see that nobody is armed. Like nobody. You didn't see a gun until the end when they were in the bad guy's house. Correct. I won't spoil it, but the bad person's house. I just was like, where are the guns? Yeah. It's kind of like those 90s movies that wouldn't make sense if everyone had cell phones. Like, it's just like, all right, this movie would have been a few seconds.

Jordan: Like Scream wouldn't have worked. I know what you did last summer wouldn't have worked.

Darius: All the Ferris Buellers, the Home Alone, he'd have just texted his mom like, hey, you missed something.

Jordan: Hey, someone's trying to break in the house.

Darius: You know, so.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: What you got for Ag1?

Jordan: I really liked that they had a kid do the narration for this movie. I don't know why, but it just really worked. It's funny as when I first started watching the movie and the screen was all black, like I thought my, the feet was ****** **. Like, I was like, what the **** going on?

Darius: No, I make sure they're either MP4 or MKV and I've definitely checked them because I've gotten them where the sound is not old coded right and all kinds of ****. But I check them.

Jordan: Yeah, I like that. was I thought that was a really nice touch. What else? The camera work in this movie was really, really good. I like the way that it was like all these like long shots. And for the first like almost 20 minutes of the movie, it feels like everything is shot like they're being chased. You almost never see anybody's face like straight on. I thought that was really dope storytelling, considering just kind of the confusion that was going on in the town.

Darius: Yeah. I like the storytelling in general.

Jordan: Yeah, me too.

Darius: I love the different characters and I get into that in act two, but yeah, I agree. The storytelling is great. They do a good job of building suspense. Yes. They don't fall into common horror movie tropes. True. They did a really good job with grief, like having the dad sleep in the child's bed. The kid's bed. You know, having the difference in how the parents are grieving. oftentimes when there's a child death, like one parent is, go, go, go, go, go. And one parent just can't get out of bed.

Jordan: Wallowing. And yeah.

Darius: There's no right or wrong. They're just doing it differently. And that could also be a source of tension within the marriage. And you could see that on display. Right.

Jordan: Yeah. A lot of times when a child is not a lot of times, but there's a It's a big number of times where if a couple lose a child, that the couple more often than not gets divorced.

Darius: I mean, it's a nuclear bomb in your relationship, like, right? Yeah. I, you know, it's, you know.

Jordan: It's literally the worst thing that could ever happen, you know, to to a couple.

Darius: It breaks the biological chain because parents are not correct their children. And so. It breaks people. Like, I don't know why. Yeah, I like that. So.

Jordan: No, I mean, it's really what happens. I mean, there's no other way to put it, honestly. I'm surprised they just reopened school with. Yeah, like a month later.

Darius: Yeah. So I did. I read a book about the Columbine shooting and even, you know, I guess I mean, that's just I think they lost more than 17 kids that day, too. But they were they they reopened that next fall.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: And I don't know, this is way off topic, but funny anecdote, the principal of that school made a pledge to all the students that like he would see all of them graduate. And he knew, you know, he was traumatized too. And his wife, he just, he would, you know, he told his wife like, look, I made a pledge. And the freshmen who were there on the day of the shooting, I need to see them walk across the stage. But if we can get through that, I'll quit Columbine and we can, you know, start over, start over. And they ended up getting divorced. She didn't make it. But I just thought, I've always, I just remember reading that passage and going, I get it. I get, I get her being like, I need to move. I need to **** ** out of here. I, you know, and him being like, I made a promise to those students, you know, and I told them, The first day of school, back after the shooting, that fall, that I will walk all of them across the stage.

Jordan: The stage.

Darius: He did, he made, he gets a promise.

Jordan: That's very honorable.

Darius: He gets a promise. He did. He left.

Jordan: It's interesting you bring that up. It's interesting you bring that up because I was on TikTok the other day and I don't remember exactly what, I think it was in relation to the person that got assassinated or killed. And someone was saying like, you know, talking about the whitewashing of certain history, parts of history, and they were saying that the, Columbine thing was not just, it wasn't just kids who got bullied who just, went berserk. It was white, they were white nationalists who had. problematic views who went just went and, they were obstacized because of their beliefs. They weren't just obstacized because they were like weird kids.

Darius: Chris Rock had been in the 90s where he was like.

Jordan: I'm scared of young white boys.

Darius: Nah, he said, he said, I saw the yearbook. There was 17 of them. He's like, I didn't have 17 friends in high school. I don't have 17 friends now.

Jordan: What you mean lonely? I count 17 of y'all.

Darius: Yeah, I remember that. There's 17 people in that group. What are you talking about?

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: That is what's funny. What were you saying?

Jordan: So somebody talked about that, how they actually were white nationalists who were ostracized because of those obviously problematic beliefs. And in the college school, in the comments, and somebody in the comments, they were like, I actually went to Columbine and I was at the school the day I'm a survivor of the day it happened. And yes, they were white nationalists. So I thought it was crazy that we think about it like it was like 50 years ago. We act like it was like 50 years ago. And that person is probably in their early forties with kids. And it's just crazy to see that not much has changed, unfortunately.

Darius: No. Yeah, I think there's a whole I mean, they keep I think they keep like some contact, the Columbine kids that survived. But, you know, the principal has since remarried and moved and the parents of one of the kids completely fell off the grid and the other parents, they're kind of still involved. But, we like the tapes, the basement tapes, I think they were called, they were eventually destroyed and you'll never know, they made several tapes. Detail of what they were going to do and they'll never mean they were destroyed and this is 1990 whatever so it's not like there's.

Jordan: Like 97 I think something.

Darius: Like that like there's external hard drives you can recover these were actual physical tapes and once they're destroyed.

Jordan: Right they did you just burn them and that's it right?

Darius: So anyways we're way off topic anything else for act one?

Jordan: I thought the running style of the kids was actually a really nice touch yeah because it looks like they're just playing instead of them being in a trance or I mean, they obviously were in a trance, but they didn't look like they were in a trance. It didn't look like they were on some like serial killer ****. I did feel like almost showed.

Darius: Go ahead. Sorry.

Jordan: It almost showed like they were just off to go be kids. It looked like they were off to go be kids and just play, do whatever kids do to. And then they're running into, you know, a trap they had no idea was waiting for them. So I like the not liked, but I appreciated the allegory of, you know, the metaphor of what the movie is trying to say.

Darius: I will say that it felt a little plot hole movie trophy to me in the sense that you ever watch those movies that only make sense if the characters never talk to each other? And I'm just like, no one, 17 kids disappeared. And it took until this movie happened for him to be like, let's map where they were running to, like, oh God, they're all running in the same pattern. And it's like, that's not something that they like 17 parents didn't go together and go, does anyone else have a written camera? Did you see this? What happened? It was all at the same time. Let's put, let's break out the map.

Jordan: Let's start and see where we can all converge.

Darius: Yeah, like it just felt real sloppy.

Jordan: I'm with you on that. I also thought it was weird that only one parent like tried to find the kids. Like I'm not saying the other parents didn't try, but maybe it was off screen. But when he ran into the lady, opened the door and the lady opened the door and was like, hey, can I use look at your footage? She's like, no, I'm like, dude, you're on the same mission. Why would you not help?

Darius: It just felt like everyone was kind of underplaying how weird it was that 17 kids disappeared at the same time. This isn't a normal Missing child gets found in a river, which is bad enough. But like, this isn't, this isn't an episode of Forensic Files. This is some supernatural ****.

Jordan: Yeah. I thought that was weird. I also thought it was weird to me that they, I mean, the movie, that's the whole point of the movie. One of the big points of the movie was they all tried to like blame like the teacher and it's like, okay, one kid is safe. Where are his parents? Like, y'all didn't talk to his parents. Like, that's the, to me, that's the 1st place I'm going.

Darius: Right. Again, a lot of decisions were made to move the plot along, not in the not in the decision that an actual parent would make.

Jordan: Correct. Yes.

Darius: Only one of them is yelling at the little is it Vigil or Virgil? I'd never know. Vigil. Vigil. And yeah. Again, I get that he's the main character in the movie, but it's it was just strange to me how nonchalant everyone was about this. Like she talks to the principal and she's like, well, you want to talk to the kid? He's like, oh, I got my lunch. Once I finish this sandwich. ****. You just can't go back to teach an English class. These kids are missing. No one knows. There's no evidence, nothing.

Jordan: Yeah, also like, I'm even like, think about those kids had other classes, I'm sure, right? Like, so the other teachers weren't affected, the other students weren't affected. Like it just, I don't know it didn't make it didn't that something didn't make sense to me about this movie. Well, one of the things didn't make sense to me about this movie.

Darius: Yeah, real trophy. You got anything else? Yeah.

Jordan: Oh, so I go ahead. Yeah. So I did go back and watch like the first half over again. I just kind of see what I missed. And if you go back in the shot where the scene where they're interviewing, I think his name was Alex, the one kid that's left. And his dad is to his right on the on the couch in school. And to the left, there's another person, but they never show the face. But then they show a shot from the back of their head because they're showing the police officers. And you can see the orange hair of who we later find out who is, you know, they were right there in front of everybody in plain sight the entire time.

Darius: Yeah. Also, let me just say any public school teacher, principal, whatever, If some auntie shows up and says, oh, the parents can't come, they're under the weather for weeks at a time. That's not. Yeah, that's not how that goes.

Jordan: I'm checking the basement.

Darius: I remember one time I had to pick up my niece from her elementary school and my sister didn't like make a phone call or something. Man, you'd have thought I was *******. Ted Bundy trying to walk up in that ***** and with good reason. But they was not letting me bring my niece. She was not leaving without some sort of parental contact, context.

Jordan: No, absolutely.

Darius: You can't just be like, oh no, his mom told me it's cool. That's how it works.

Jordan: Yeah, like I remember I was in like third or fourth grade. It was me and my brother and sister. We were all in school together and we like missed the bus. So we're like walking to school and our friend's mom stops and gives us a ride. She just dropped my friend off to school. So my friend was white. So we put the school and it's a white lady in the van and three little black kids get out. And so the next thing you know, the what do they call it? The carpool, like monitors, whatever. They're like, that's weird. So they like bring us into the person's office and like, hey, are y'all okay? Like, how do you know that woman? Like, what's going on? This isn't safe. And they call my parents and like, let them know like, hey, we have your kids here, but this happened today.

Darius: Yeah, I mean, yeah, the school takes responsibility for the children in their care and they don't take that responsibility lightly, nor should they.

Jordan: Nor should they, yes.

Darius: Act 2, the weaponized search. With authorities stalled, the teacher and a distraught parent launched their own investigation because of course, forcing a group of fractured, self-destructive townspeople to confront their own secrets as they hunt for the sole remaining child and the truth. And as I read that, blurb, like the teacher and the distraught parent and the authorities, something like this, the FBI would be involved. It wouldn't just be the one local sheriff.

Jordan: One cop, a beat cop.

Darius: Like a couple of detectives. And the sheriff like, oh man, in between DUI stops, just like checking on these missing kids. No, I will say that I do love stories that show the different scenes from different perspectives.

Jordan: Me too.

Darius: And so like you would go like you would you saw the the link at the bar from her perspective. Right. And then you later on, you see the cops perspective and you see why he fell for that because he was just having the worst day though he ate from hell. Ever. You know, a little police brutality sprinkled in. He had to do that. But, and so I just love that. Like one of my favorite examples of it is the TV show on Showtime called The Affair It's Over Now. And they would do like, episode would be like first half from the husband's perspective, second-half from the wife's perspective. And like first half from the male part of the affairs perspective and the female. And then they would do like same scenes through different perspectives. And like when it was the wife, the husband would just say meaner things. And when it was a husband, it just, it was cool. So yeah, this one didn't do too much flipping of the scenes based on who was it, but it was like a different angle and it gave you more perspective and more context to the scene. Cause I didn't even know they were both alcoholics until I saw his version of it and saw his wife was talking to him about, you know, you ain't supposed to be on that bottle. So what you got for act two, man?

Jordan: Yes, I was going to ask you, I got a few questions for this act, but so the first one I'll ask you is, so do you think Josh Roland's character vandalized her car just because, or do you think he did that as a way to like, almost like mark the car so he could follow her?

Darius: I think in a small town, it'd be pretty easy to follow her and figure out which cars are to get a license plate. I just think he was in deep grief and delusional and just ****. I don't think there's any rhyme or reason for it. I just think he was experiencing the pain that no one can possibly relate to. Right. And he just his brain just told him that made sense. But yeah, you know, yeah, to answer your question, I don't think it was a sort of You could do that, especially in a small town. You could do that with license plates. it's not that hard. So there's probably 2 gas stations in the whole ******* city. So.

Jordan: Right. So, yeah, speaking to your point about the multiple perspective storylines, I thought that was really dope. It reminded me almost like Game of the Game of Thrones books where these chapters are different POV, different characters POV. And I also always like movies that have like a movie within a movie. Almost like that one scene in Goodfellas where he's it's the whole day where he's just trying to go and like get the coke and the helicopters over his head the whole time, like that kind of ****. And I was really want to like wish this was a book. I think it really would be a really cool idea for a book as well, which is ironic because most books movies come from books, but it was so well written. I do just want to make sure that we give we shout that out as well.

Darius: It was it was really good writing and yeah, nothing. It didn't feel cheap like you didn't see. The characters other than the parents that were off screen and not doing anything, the characters all made decisions that made sense for themselves within the context of their story. And so I thought that was dope as well.

Jordan: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good way to put it. Which POV did you enjoy the most?

Darius: The cop. The cop. From. Started the day. You know, he's he's I think he he's obviously going through some sort of alcohol withdrawal. His wife, his old lady leaves that he catches the kid mid burglary, runs him down, does a little police brutality, tells him, all right, we'll call it even. I caught you breaking into a house. I punch you in the face. No charges, no harm, no foul.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: And then. Goza tells his boss right away, we see some police corruption where his boss is like, well, let's just hope it pulls over.

Jordan: Let's just hope it doesn't. Yeah.

Darius: It's so normalized. Anyways, we... And then he goes and he gets, the infamous hay tax, which is undefeated. he's like, look, hay is enough. If she's into you, hay is enough.

Jordan: So he's down in the dumps. He got pricked by a needle. Hopefully he was hoping he didn't get infected with anything, you know?

Darius: It's not quite how AIDS and HIV work, but I understand why no one wants to get poked with dirty needles. Correct. Yeah. He's asking the guy, when's your last tetanus shot? Like that guy goes to the doctor.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: Like the homeless drug addict is like getting his regular physicals. Okay.

Jordan: Yeah, I don't think the crackhead camping in the woods is going to be regularly visiting his PCP.

Darius: Right, break. Do you have AIDS? Like, you know.

Jordan: Like, that **** was hilarious. He's like, hepatitis. Anything.

Darius: Yeah, right. But what else you got for act two?

Jordan: Yeah, actually, I was going to say some of my favorite season movies were the ones with the cop and the junkie. Yeah, it was just so funny. Like, it was. It was like some mostly 11 in very heavy movie.

Darius: So I was so much game recognized Gabe because. he gets stuck and then he punches the kid, which man, nice shot because he knocked him smooth out.

Jordan: He knocked him smooth the **** out. Yeah.

Darius: Harder than it looks. And he's just like, all right, man, I caught you breaking into someone's house. We even. Yeah. Like that's a felony too. You know, true. You know, bad police work, but I get why he would, I get why both characters would be like, Yeah. Let's just agree to agree to never talk to each other again.

Jordan: Yeah, just never just call a truce.

Darius: Which is impossible in a town with 15 people, but 50 people.

Jordan: Yeah, right. And I like that they showed like you kind of was that the drug guy was kind of like the glue to a lot of the story because he was always outside the gas station when she was going in to buy the outside the liquor store where she was going to get liquor. And then, you know, he was in the woods and he saw, you know, who it was. And then, you know, everything with the cop as well. And then finding, well, that's actually finding solving the mystery, so to speak. And I love he just everything he did was completely by accident. Yeah. Him just being high, almost drunk and homeless and stupid. Yeah. Dude, my favorite thing is he calls.

Darius: He's like, I know where the kids are. Can you send me 50 grand? Like, that's how that works.

Jordan: She's like, can you meet me somewhere? I have a phobia.

Darius: Yeah. Okay, dude. Again, everyone was bizarrely cavalier about the fact that 17 children disappeared in a thinner. Right. Like, dude, there would be a dedicated phone number for that. And as soon as he called in and saying, I have a lead on it, there would have been police cars on his location. Correct. You don't get to just be like, meet me at the store.

Jordan: Yeah, let's meet in the Walgreens parking lot. You with the duffel bag. I'll send you the address.

Darius: Yeah, that's not. You're not. This isn't. That's not how that goes. So yeah, but before you had any idea what was going on.

Jordan: Going on in terms of the people being used as pawns, basically, or.

Darius: It felt like disparate parts. I didn't like, I honestly, it just felt like no, I felt like it wasn't even about the children until the cop sees them or to the junkie breaks into the house and sees, you know, what's going on. It just felt like a random story about people in a small town until they, I was just, I was worried that they, that it was never going to get around to being a movie, you know?

Jordan: Got you, got you. Yeah, I mean, I think. I think I probably figured they had to probably have been in that house because where else would they be? Also, talk about ****** police work. There was like 5 old newspapers in the driveway. The car had not moved an inch in a month and no one noticed or said anything. There's a child who's just getting himself to and from school every day, who usually is carpooled or driven.

Darius: No one seen a parent. Some crazy aunt is like, oh, don't worry about it. It takes the principle to bring them by, again, does anyone care that the children are missing?

Jordan: No, seriously, it's like no one gave a ****. It's like, it's sad, but oh well. I guess it's like that in society now too, but.

Darius: Nah, if 17 children disappeared into thin air, there would be a nationwide 24/7 news cycle to try to find those children.

Jordan: Well, I mean, the movie is a metaphor for school shootings, and in that sense, people don't care because nothing's changed.

Darius: Fair. I still think they would, it was, they, they, if that's what they were going for, they were a little heavy-handed. People care more than that.

Jordan: So I hope so. Yeah, I don't know when I started to figure it out, to be honest with you, because it was just, because like even like the, okay, so we'll just.

Darius: Act 3, the reckoning. The separate paths of the desperate searchers suddenly converge on a single house where an unsettling force is finally revealed, forcing them into a horrific confrontation to break a devastating cycle and save the missing children. All right, this is where it gets a little stupid. I was like, yeah, because it just didn't make sense. I was just like, the cop gets a lead on the missing kids, doesn't call for backup, shows up alone to a house where he thinks 17 children are missing.

Jordan: Just stupid.

Darius: It just got really stupid here. I have in my notes here, they didn't land this plane.

Jordan: They did not.

Darius: They did not land the plane. I was really mad because it started great. It had me in.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Just like. We get an endless chase scene, which I've said before, I ******* hate that ****. I just like, let's just run for 10 minutes and scream. No plot is moved. It's just really bad act 3.

Jordan: They fumbled the ending really, really badly, I think.

Darius: Also, we'll say that.

Jordan: Yeah, yes. So the boogeyman, killer, whatever, kidnapper is.

Darius: Still don't know her motivation.

Jordan: Right, I suppose, yeah, the one kid's crazy aunt, she possesses people with a a rose stem and she wraps their hair around it, cuts herself, breaks it in half and they do what she wants or they kill people. And they run like this, like they're doing at the airplane.

Darius: And they're invincible unless they're shot or hit by a car.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: But they don't, they're impervious to stab wounds and it's just nothing.

Jordan: She shaved, remember she peeled the dude's face with the peeler? Yeah. Just like nothing happened.

Darius: Oh, like the guy, the principal is in the store. and he's just like running into brick walls and yeah he's a ******* zombie and again this is where it got really stupid I just was like all right man.

Jordan: It did get really stupid they did not.

Darius: Land this point it just.

Jordan: Didn't make sense because it's like one why is she doing this are they like her life force she needs to feed off souls I guess okay but why how'd she get like this she also she's like the the kids aunt great aunt so was her mom like that too like it?

Darius: The who, what, why, where, and how.

Jordan: When, where, and how?

Darius: We got a who, we got a what, we got a when. We never got a why and a how.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: You got to answer those five questions to get them. If you in a thriller, you have to answer those five questions.

Jordan: Yeah. If this move was a current event, they would have failed that assignment.

Darius: Yeah. It's just we never got a why. We never got a how. She just kind of shows up. as an aunt that's sick and just starts kidnapping children telepathically and.

Jordan: Telling people to poke themselves in the face with forks all right and.

Darius: In the end it's just like an endless chase scene where there's like shooting and there's salt on the floor and he doesn't I was like all right this is stupid what times a game come on it's kind.

Jordan: Of like you mean to tell me salt salt was the answer the whole time that okay yeah I don't.

Darius: Really have anything man because all I got is this is stupid.

Jordan: I was going to ask you, like, did you, because I was like, am I missing some symbolism here? Like, what am I missing? I don't. It just.

Darius: Act one and two are great. They just, I don't know. Everything from the moment the cop shows up at that house and then drags a junkie in there is just stupid. Like, I don't really, I wish I had a more eloquent way to put it, but it was just stupid.

Jordan: Yeah, it was stupid. They nailed the last like 30 seconds where they talk about how Some families were never the same and some kids were kind of able to speak again, like in terms of just the trauma of what happened. That was the only thing to me that landed. Well, I think a lot of scary movies do