The Prestige (2006)

Jordan: Hey everybody, welcome to Out of the Trunk Pod with Jordan and Darius. This is our movie review segment. My name is Jordan. You can find me on all socials at JordyBriding.

Darius: And I'm Darius. That's Steve's all up in the area on all socials.

Jordan: And this is a podcast where two friends started talking at a bar and never stopped. Today we're going to be breaking down Christopher Nolan's psychological mystery thriller, The Prestige, starring Hugh Jackman slash Wolverine, Christian Bale slash Batman, Michael Caine slash Alfred, Scarlett Johansson slash Black Widow, Rebecca Hall, that's just her name, David Bowie, the legend, and Andy Serkis, another legend. The Prestige takes place in Victorian London with two rival magicians becoming obsessed with creating the ultimate illusion after a sudden tragedy divides them. As their bitter feud escalates, both men resort to deceit, sacrifice, and dangerous scientific discoveries, risking their sanity and lives to outdo each other. I'll toss to you for act one.

Darius: Act one, the rivalry begins. Two ambitious stage magicians part ways after a tragic accident during a water tank trick. Their intense rivalry sparks a dangerous game of sabotage as each strives to dominate London's theaters. That accident is because of a mistake by Christian Bale's character during a magic trick, Hugh Jackman's wife dies, literally like drowns on stage. So It's up from there on out and the movie starts. I don't want, I thought of this, but I read it somewhere else. So I want to give credit because I want to bite. But Matt Iglesias made the great point. He was like, this movie came too soon in the Nolan filmography. Filmography. Like if he announced today, I'm going to do a period piece about two magicians, it would be a billion dollar franchise. But in 2006, people are like, but a period piece with two magicians. But no, like he has so much clout now that this would be, because I mean, I think this is a masterpiece. So I'm going to go ahead and spoil it. Yeah, me too. Spoil my review. But I'll start with, I just think it came along so early that it'll just be overshadowed by the bigness. Like it's not a big movie, but like his movies have gotten so big and existential and The Odyssey and the atomic bomb and Dark Knight. Dark Knight Rises. Yeah. And so like the scale of it is small. It's ultimately about a petty beef between 2 magicians.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: But I think it's like literally heaven is best. So me too. It came along a little too early. But I'll start with the regular observation that man, Michael Caine's accent was thick. I almost had to subtitle a couple of scenes. I was like, dude, you must have just came from over on the pond because it was tough early.

Jordan: There's that running joke of him where people say of him were like, you have to use his accent to say his name. So instead of saying Michael Caine, you say my cocaine.

Darius: I mean, I guess maybe it was coached out of him later on, but man, in this movie, I was like, dude, I had to because The opening scene, he's explaining the three stages of a trick.

Jordan: And you didn't know the words he was saying?

Darius: I could not tell. And it's this alongside scene. And I'm like, I actually need to hear what he's saying. And I had to rewind it. And I'm just like, I finally just Googled like, what does this dude say? All right, I know what he's saying. So we go, what you got for act boy, man.

Jordan: That's funny. So my first note is Michael Caine's voiceover is peak. because I think he just has underratedly like one of the great voices of all time I know obviously we talk about like you know Morgan Freeman and **** even Heath Ledger had a like legendary voice you know I can't think my mind's going to play right now but you know what I'm saying Denzel has a great voice you know and Michael Caine is never really referenced in that kind of category but I think he should be because it just I don't know the way he inflects the voice with the emotion and save for act three you know where he really brings it home. It just is on another level. So I love that this movie had him do the voiceovers.

Darius: One of the great character actors of our time.

Jordan: Yes, absolutely.

Darius: And like you said, he's Alfred. Speaking of the magic trick, do you buy the theory that the movie is structured like the three steps of a magic trick?

Jordan: Yeah, I do. 100%. It's Cause it really almost feels like 3 movies. Like you could break this up into a mini series and 3 45 minute episodes and it would flow and hit the same way.

Darius: What struck me on upon watching it was just how much it all holds up. Like normally movies with a twist, you go back and you're like, okay, there's a little movie.

Jordan: The twist is the whole movie.

Darius: Yeah. Or just like, it should have been obvious that people in the movie, like, When you rewatch it, you're like, that doesn't actually hold up. This would have da da da da da. Everything kind of holds up, man.

Jordan: Yeah, you get it.

Darius: The twin character never actually speaks in scenes.

Jordan: Like, yeah, and if he does, it's a muffled voice. He says like 4 or 5 words. He never looks anybody in the eye. He's kind of slouched over. So you can't really get a clear look at him, you know?

Darius: And once the once the fingers get shot off, you stop seeing his hand in scenes. And so, yeah, man. It holds up. It holds up really, really well, even after the twist. So what else you got back one.

Jordan: I want to say, well, Christian Bale is one of my favorite actors of all time. I think he's one of the 10 greatest actors ever, if you ask me. And Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman acted their ***** off in this movie. They were both ******* phenomenal because they both playing essentially 4 characters a piece, you know. And also, I love the fact that they were both playing these roles in the midst of playing their biggest roles ever. Cause people **** on comic comic movies and all that, whatever. And it's like, but you can still be a phenomenal actor. I know. You can do, you can do, you can do both. You know, you can be skilled at making great movies and also do the fun comic book **** too. You know what I'm saying? Like you don't have to do either or. I mean, MCU is different because you got to sign for like a picture, 6 picture deal, whatever. But I love that they were both able to do that together in the midst of, you know, their biggest movies ever. So Okay, so we obviously know that the twist is that Christian Bale's character has a twin brother and they've been living half-lives for, we really don't know. So I wanted to ask you, there's the scene where they go to that first musician's show, The ******** and they kind of watch him at the end of the show where he's like waddling out with the fishbowl. And you see the admiration in Christian Bale's character's face and he talks about him. And I can never tell if That's where he got the idea from, or if he had already always been doing it. And because he'd been doing it, he knew how difficult it was. Do you do you think do you have any theories on that?

Darius: I believe like so the. The part of the movie is that the two characters focused on two different things and it was like Hugh Jackman's character was about the spectacle and the showmanship and the. Yeah, the selling and just Christian Bale's character was just committed to the trick, committed to the craft. And I believe from birth they were they were doing this, man. I don't like literally from birth, but I believe for this to work and for everyone to be so bought in. Yeah. To the in the end, giving your life. One of them gave their life to it. Right. That has to begin in your formative years. Then again, why they would do all this for some magic tricks. I don't ask that movie to be realistic. I actually, they stay true to the world that it was built. And that's why I love this movie, because the stakes are comically low. Right, It's like, dude, you could just say like, hey, man. But it's just, they care so much. And it's, great. It's movies are supposed to be stretched so much. Yeah. And it's like, why? Okay. And it's just like, they said in the end, like every one of the audience knows that they just, they know they're being fooled. They know it's that actual magic, but they.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: You want them. It's part of it. Like, like when I turn on the movie, I know these stakes are low, but like I'm enthralled with it because everyone is committed to this bit. Right. So I mean, it's, you know, it's a masterpiece.

Jordan: And I also think like it kind of perfectly encapsulates the perspective of passion, right? Like the things that mean the world to you might not mean anything to anybody else. Like to us, that's just like, why are you doing all this for a magic tree? Like that's kind of crazy, right? But it's like, if you were, if someone were to ask us, why are you doing all that for a podcast?

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: They look at us crazy, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, if an athlete, you're doing that for a ball, you know what I'm saying? Like it's, if you can apply that to anything that anyone is devoted to.

Darius: I read, I'm reading a book about Chris Hayes book about attention. And there was this paragraph in there that just really hit home. Why, we, why we put so much into the podcast. It's, I won't, you know, read online. I'll tell you about it later. But yeah, it's just like, you have to keep yourself intellectually honest. You can't just work, go home and watch TV, or you're just writing with just rot. And so obviously this is different for them because this is their job. But yeah, like you got to It's okay to find something obscure and obsessed over it. To the point where you're cutting off fingers, but it's a movie.

Jordan: Yeah, right. I also just like this movie, one, it's just phenomenal movie. Like this is to me one of Christopher Nolan's best screenplays, scripts, however you want to call it, whatever, writing jobs, if you will. Like the symbolism and the foreshadowing with the birds, he kept focusing on the birds, the two, the pairs of birds, you know. The scene where Christian Bale meets his wife and she's got like her nephew and they have to kill the bird to do the magic trick. And the kid's crying and he's like, no, look, I have a bird here for you. And he says, what about his brother? And he pants Christian Bale and he's like, damn, Like, you know what I mean? Like just the foreshadowing of that.

Darius: Or just like how the wife could pick up on something was off when like one brother loved her and one.

Jordan: One brother didn't.

Darius: And yeah, that's something a wife would pick up. Like something is off here. And yeah, he kind of communicates that without giving it away. Yeah. I mean, it's one of I think it's his best writing, just like straight pen. I don't think it's his best movie, but it's his best writing for sure. I'm not mad at that. It is airtight. Like there's no holes in the storage whatsoever.

Jordan: Nothing doesn't make sense. There's nothing. There's not a wasted scene. Everything you need every bit of this movie.

Darius: It's every bit of the runtime. Yeah, it's rare you see, at least in movies. writing this crisp and this airtight and this clean, you know, the same thing. But you know what I mean.

Jordan: And speaking of the speaking of the wives and the because you have Scarlett Johansson's character too, like it's, you know, there's I feel like it was fine for the second brother when he had no one. But when he fell in love, it almost made him dislike Sarah more, if that makes sense. Like, I think when he had no one, it was like, okay, cool, I can pretend to love this girl, whatever. But then when he actually fell in love, I think it got harder for him to fake it, if that makes sense. But they had, again, total devotion to the lie, total devotion to the craft, total devotion to the trick.

Darius: I mean, this was the only thing that mattered was, I mean, his wife triggered warning, like hung herself because she literally, the confusion She thought she was going crazy. And what it was, they were just literally tricking her.

Jordan: Yes, they were literally tricking her.

Darius: So yeah, I mean, it's...

Jordan: And she knew he would never tell him the truth.

Darius: No, you cannot tell anyone your tricks, you know. So ready to get in Act 2?

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Act 2, the illusion of sacrifice. One magician unveils A jaw-dropping teleportation illusion. driving his rival to obsessive obsession. Desperate to uncover the secret, he seeks out a radical, mysterious machine built by Nikola Tesla. The magician who did the teleportation first would be Christian Bale's character, and the one who got obsessive would be Hugh Jackman's character. We said this earlier. This is just for you. I know people say this A lot. But you really do have to watch this twice. The first time, right after. And the second time is where, a lot of Christopher Nolan movies are like that, actually. But that second time is when you're really like, oh, this is a masterpiece. But I do, to go back to a thing we've discussed on the spot before, bass player or lead singer.

Jordan: I wrote that down, too. Yeah.

Darius: Jackman, man. He just wanted to be in front like he had it. He was good.

Jordan: He had it.

Darius: And he just he could not stand being under the stage when everyone got the applause.

Jordan: Correct.

Darius: And it's just it's just wild. You know, it is. Yeah. He had every the whole crowd fooled and but the one person that fooled was his rival and he didn't get the applause and he literally was undoing so.

Jordan: Yeah, I love that detail that Christian Bale's character was always like, he was always a step ahead because he was like, it's so interesting how he comes out before he does that trick and he's overweight and drunk, you know? And then it was like, he has to hate because he knew him so well. From like a psychological perspective, he was like, I'm sure he loves taking those bows under the stage.

Darius: You know, as someone who often shines spotlight, I must admit, it would suck. That would suck, bro. You're in a ******* moldy basement with rats and **** and all your work is being applauded upstairs.

Jordan: Some drunk ******** upstairs, like, thank you.

Darius: And then just the feeling that your whole life's work is in his hands at this point. Like, yeah, you can't, if at any given moment, like he has all the power, he can ruin it.

Jordan: Correct.

Darius: Keep in mind, like this is 1890s London, like This is his whole world. I know it sounds silly that you can't do magic tricks anymore, but think about the scene of the movie and the world that the movie built. This was everything. This was, you know, Space Jam, the Monstars taking his powers, you know, like that's how important this was. It wasn't just his whole And he's already lost his wife.

Jordan: So he's literally already lost everything, And then.

Darius: Not only is he not getting the praise, but like his, this dude, he has to hold his breath the whole 3 minutes that man's on stage. And then he starts ******* with him, not coming out late. And it's like, you can't, you can't have it.

Jordan: Yeah. And I think that's, that was like, to me, the one of the greatest ways to highlight the difference between the two characters is that one, Christian Bale was kind of had the luxury of he's doing it with his brother. So you don't care to let your brother shine. That's fine. But like some drunk ******* you found on the street, you're going to feel a way about that.

Darius: You're identical twin brother. You literally share DNA and two. It's almost not just to me, they're one character split in two. Like I don't like they were interchanging. So like, Some nights he got the praise and the other nights they switched up. And that's why he had to cut his fingers off because, you know, they had they were they were doing interchangeable things. That's what kept the bit so solid.

Jordan: Correct.

Darius: And, you know, it seems obvious that they were twins, but like, you know, this is 1890 twins weren't like.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Let the movie wash over you. It's you have to. It works. It really works. And the makeup.

Jordan: It really, really does.

Darius: When you look at them, you can see Christian Bale in there. But on the first, I don't know anyone on first few who says they knew it was a twin.

Jordan: No, the first, yeah, the first time I saw it, there was a split second where I was like, is that him? Because I was like, no, that didn't make sense. So I just disregarded it.

Darius: I want to rewatch, you can see the camera chicks and they, you know, but it's like.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: It's like The Sixth Sense. I don't care who you are. You didn't know on the first watch. Right. You just, you're retro, you're retconning, you're it.

Jordan: And even if, and even if you did like, because it's such in passing, you wouldn't, you wouldn't be sure anyway.

Darius: You just not, you're watching a movie and it just, the way it was set up upon, I don't believe anyone who says, if you've never seen it before, And you've never Googled anything about it and you went into it ice cold. I do not believe you if you say you saw the twist coming. I don't believe you.

Jordan: No, no, no, no. Yeah, I agree. I was going to say. **** lost my train of thought. Okay, so. Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

Darius: Oh, I was just going to ask, do people still go to magic shows? Is that still a thing?

Jordan: Not that I know of.

Darius: I was like, are they just like ventriloquist dummies where it's like a thing that we like look at and we're like, people actually were entertained by that at one point. Yeah, I think The fact that we could just Google the tricks now would kind of kill it.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: I always give you some time to get your train of thought. What were you saying?

Jordan: And I appreciate it. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, that's actually really nice. I literally wrote down everybody wants to be the prestige, you know, nobody wants to be the turn. And the pledge is cool. But like, you know, and I think I think that's part of what Hugh Jackman's beef was with Christian Bale. I think his character is He was the better magician. He also was the purest in terms of just love of the craft. And he saw through you. know what I mean? And I think sometimes when you meet someone who really can see you, that's almost like a triggering thing. And I think he really felt like, because remember, he never trusted him from the beginning, even before his wife died. He just never ****** with him. And I don't know if that was like a jealousy thing or what, but it always felt like, I don't like that this guy knows what I am and I got to figure out what he is before he figures out what I am.

Darius: In defense of Hugh Jackman's character, he did, you did accidentally kill my wife. You can't just yada yada past that. This is not a petty beef. He's like, yeah, he's like, oh, he was jealous. I don't know, man, he didn't kind of kill his wife.

Jordan: Well, I'm saying before, even before that happened, there was, he had like, he clearly had an issue with him.

Darius: No, but a lot of people frame the movie like he, it was a petty jealousy. It's like, well, okay, but like his wife did drown in the film.

Jordan: She did die, yeah.

Darius: That's not petty. There's nothing petty about holding beef over that. But no, clearly Christian Bale's character was a better musician. And it was just, it was almost like, Clyde Drexler, right? It's like, you're going to be that guy. You know, it's like no matter like Clyde Drexler to this day just, you know, he hates Jordan because, you know, he just he was labeled the next Jordan. And like, it's just sometimes the other guy is just better. And it really felt a lot like, you know, he's don't know it's almost like LeBron KD Paul George type thing where it's like yeah Paul George on the Pacers you're just not going to be TC it doesn't matter what you do you know so yeah I mean it didn't in the end though he did kind of well we'll get there in act three but you got anything else for act two?

Jordan: What I meant to actually this next one do you do you what not do you think he tied do you think he knows or knew what type what he tied?

Darius: Can you repeat the question I'm sorry.

Jordan: When the wife died yes do you think he tied the wrong knot?

Darius: Yeah I don't I I don't know.

Jordan: I feel like if he had he would have just lied and said no I didn't but because you said I don't know I'm almost like did you tie regular knot and then change your mind halfway through or did you tie regular knot and then just second guess because she died?

Darius: Based off of what I know watching the movie I would say I don't think I don't get homicidal from Christian Bale's character I can't I get obsessive about the trick, but I'm not sure how botching a trick and killing your partner's wife would do anything. It seems like a continuing accident that became like a a war. But I don't think if I had to guess, I would say I don't think he did it on purpose.

Jordan: Yeah. And I also like people forget, like the wife was game. She was like, yeah, I can do it. I can get out of it. We can practice this, whatever. Like they were both, you know, in favor of taking the risk. So it always like, I mean, grief obviously ***** up your mind and also you still have a right to me and she did die. But like, it's also like she was kind of game and He was in favor of taking risks. And also, like, if you didn't like yourself in a glass box of water, you could just drown, period. Like that also is a thing that could happen.

Darius: You know, it happens quick. Yeah, I don't think you did it on purpose, though.

Jordan: Yeah, me neither. I think that's what that's what, from my perspective, what makes Hugh Jackman's character the villain of the story.

Darius: Okay. Why is that?

Jordan: Why is he the villain?

Darius: Why is he the villain?

Jordan: I'm sorry. Because you killed a guy and planned on raising his daughter by faking, because you faked your own death. That's pretty villainous.

Darius: True, I guess. But you did kill my wife. The whole, the whole, you know, spoiler alert, but the trick to Hugh Jackman's trans. transporting man was he was literally cloning himself and drowning the clones.

Jordan: Yeah, right.

Darius: So that's pretty villainous.

Jordan: I'm like, you killed like 50 people.

Darius: For a magic trick. And it was like at the end of the movie, we're jumping all around, but the end of the movie like pans out to just like rows and rows of like drowned cart. Yeah. Like man. And he never knew. Although I do believe that He knew that he would be the clone that comes out the other side.

Jordan: Correct.

Darius: So because otherwise, how would the if the new person lost the trick?

Jordan: Wouldn't make any sense.

Darius: Wouldn't make any sense. And so he was dedicated to traffic crafty guy. Anything else for act two?

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Act two.

Jordan: Yeah. So, okay. Yeah. So what made you what do you think made Scarlett Johansson flip?

Darius: Old-fashioned charm. like he's women like ambition and she found just like extraordinary talent, ambition. And what she found in him was the better musician, the more successful musician, the one who mastered the art. She's over there to steal his tricks because her old dude couldn't figure it out. And, you know, cuff your chick. He just got, she just upgraded, you know, upgraded to being someone's side chick, but.

Jordan: Right. I just think that she.

Darius: Went from an all-star to an all-NBA player. Sometimes it happens. And so like, it's obvious anyone watching who the better musician was. And so she wanted to be with the better one. Keep in mind, like magicians watching the movie.

Jordan: These are rock stars.

Darius: Yeah. So like, you know, he's a bigger rock star. Happens all the time.

Jordan: Yeah. I forgot this point. I also love the parallel of their rivalry compared to Tesla versus Edison.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: I thought that was super dope and it gave it a nice like grounded feel to it because that, did really happen, with those two guys. And they actually did work together too, which is, what happened with Bale and Jack. So I thought that was a pretty dope storytelling element.

Darius: Yeah, it's the movie does a good job of staying grounded while being supernatural when it needs to be. So it's like a good blend of both. And it's in a believable way, So.

Jordan: It's honestly like I kind of was like, damn, did these machines exist back then? Like it's he did it so well. I was like, wait a second. Hold up. Did I miss something in history class?

Darius: Yeah, I mean, it's the first time I watched it, that was I didn't see that coming because I didn't see the movie going supernatural. And then you, you know, again, you rewatch, you see the hats in the field, the two black cats, different things like that. And it's like, obviously the clones were working, but like, you're just not, your eyes aren't, there's a lot of trickery where they're moving your eyes in different places to keep you distracted. And that's what makes the movie so great. It holds up. You got anything else right too?

Jordan: I did want to shout out the blocking in this movie, like the way they position the actors, on the sets in terms of relation to the camera. Like when they do the scenes with Hugh Jackman and his body double or whatever, or stunt double, whatever you want to call them, the way they make it so that you never see both their faces at the same time. So you can just use a double and swap out, you know, with the marks on the floor and stuff. I thought that was super dope. And even the way they shot it, like, it's Hugh Jackman playing both guys, but like the prosthetics is different and his performance is so different. You're almost like, wait, is that just a guy that looks like Hugh Jackman? And I thought that was a dope testament to his acting too, because he was talking.

Darius: About the drunk guy.

Jordan: Yeah, the drunk guy. Yeah. Because he kind of looked different.

Darius: He did look different. I would have. It was believable. If you told me that was a different actor, I believe it. But he obviously. It's easier to just have him do it and just, switch the things around. It's remarkable how believable the movie is, even after you know the tricks. Right. So, yeah. Heading into Act 3, the ultimate trick, the obsession reaches a deadly climax when the horrific truth behind both illusions is revealed. Both men face the ultimate consequences of their secrets, proving the ultimate sacrifice required for illusion. But toss to you for Act 3. What you got?

Jordan: So what I love about Act Three is that it shows the consequences that both guys, all three guys played from living a double life. You know, you have Sarah killing herself. You have what's her name? Scarlet Johansson. You know, she's kind of like, are you okay? Like, what's going on? Whatever. But because it was the other brother, he was like, I mean, I kind of loved her, but I kind of didn't. I really love you. And then she's like, also just the audacity of trying to play like the indignant mistress where she's like, how dare you say that? That's so inhumane. I mean, it wasn't humane, but it's like, okay, lady, you were inhumane for cheating.

Darius: Life is complicated, man. You can, I don't think it's, look, obviously it's a ball of emotions, but like, she's cheating with him and she loves him. And she's also appalled that he doesn't care that his wife hung himself. I don't think that's a contradictory set of beliefs. It's just, you know, human beings are messy.

Jordan: Yeah, that's true. And then you have, you know, Hugh Jackman, you know, everything they did to each other. You know, Jackman lost basically a knee bail, you know, the two fingers. And then at the end, you know, you have him being like, you went around the world. You spent a fortune for nothing.

Darius: Because he discovered a cloning device.

Jordan: Well, that's enough for nothing. And then even, you know, where he one of my favorite scenes was the the role reversal of where they read in the journals and they had the voiceovers. It's like, I got you. Where it's the one where he he realized the Tesla, which is the fake name he gave him to send to America so he could have live his life. He didn't think he'd ever come back to England, I guess. and then you know on the flip side he's like yeah you're gonna die in here because I'm alive.

Darius: I mean just like the commitment to the bit like yeah you know Bail like one of Vale's characters died for the bit you know yeah and like you know he knew this twin brother would carry the legacy on a retired the greatest musician ever musician magician ever and that was enough for him he knew that the streets would his name would ring out forever so.

Jordan: True. When did you start to realize that he was a twin? Was it the what he said to him when he gave it said his last goodbyes?

Darius: No, I didn't know until the twist was revealed in the movie. The first time I watched, I had no idea until when Hugh Jackman's character gets shot in that in the basement of that theater. I was like, okay, well, where we was it? Is it Michael Caine? Like what's going on here?

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: You know, once he, you know, they did get You know, Christopher Nolan does this. They just start, it gets expository. He just starts talking plot.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: No, he just like, oh, you have a twin? But let me tell you about my cloning device. And it's like, I'll lie.

Jordan: He does like explaining ****. He does just, I think he just likes explaining ****. I'm not gonna lie. Cause that's in a lot of his movies.

Darius: Yeah. He just like, you know, Hugh Jackman's characters like knocks on the screen. He's like, hey, let me tell you what's going on. And normally I hate it, but I'll allow it in this one because Everything else to that point is just so airtight that, honestly, the crowd, the audience probably needed an explanation at that point.

Jordan: I'm about to say, yeah, it was pretty shocking, for sure. I mean, first of all, I was just like, what? Like, I kind of suspected when he was, when he threw the ball, I was like, I'm sorry about Sarah. Like, I didn't mean to hurt her. You know, I'm sorry about a lot of things. Live your life. I kind of was like, wait a second. But when he came out of the shadows with the gun, I was like, what? I think I immediately rewatched the movie the first time I saw it because I was like, there's no way.

Darius: Did you see this in theaters?

Jordan: No, I saw it at home. I think I was in high school, so maybe not too long after it came out, probably like 07, six or seven, maybe 08 when this came, when I saw it for the first time.

Darius: I saw it in theaters. I was either a senior in high school or fresh out. And Yeah, I mean, everyone leaving that theater was just **** ****