The Dark Knight (2008)

Jordan: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Out of the Trunk Pile with Jordan and Darius. This is our movie review segment. My name is Jordan. That's Jordy Rewriting on all socials.

Darius: And I'm Darius. That's Deez Allupia area on all socials.

Jordan: And this is a podcast where two friends started talking at a bar and never stopped. Today we're going to be reviewing Christopher Nolan's superhero masterpiece, The Dark Knight, starring Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, rest in peace, Aaron Eckhart, Michael Caine, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Gary Oldman, and Morgan Freeman. This movie is about Lieutenant Jim Gordon and DA Harvey Dent helping Batman successfully keep a tight lid on organized crime in Gotham City. However, an anarchistic mastermind known as the Joker emerges, plunging the metropolis into utter chaos and forcing the Caped Crusader to test his moral limits. I'll toss to you for Act 1.

Darius: Act one, the shadows over Gotham, a ruthless new criminal destabilizes Gotham's mob syndicate through a daring bank heist. Meanwhile, Batman, Lieutenant Gordon, and the idealistic new district attorney form a powerful alliance to eliminate crime. That ruthless new criminal is the Joker, played masterfully by Heath Ledger. And my first observation, I'm sure you know this, but just for the audiences, for their information. Every Nolan Batman movie started with the villain in the opening like scene hiding their identity. So, you know, so we got Ra's a Ghoul in Batman Begins, Joker in the bank heist and Bane on the plane. Was that a plane hijacking, if you will?

Jordan: Yeah, plane jacking, yeah.

Darius: Cool little nugget in all of the Nolan Batman movies is you're introduced to the villain via some little stage trickery. So, and also these are the only three Blu-rays that I own. I would get out as well, so.

Jordan: Okay, I do have that on Blu-ray.

Darius: Yeah. It's just. Physical copies are way better. They are way better than streaming.

Jordan: They really are.

Darius: It's just. I ain't got space for all that clutter, but they're. What you got for act one?

Jordan: So I love that the opening scene is first of all, great. It's an excellent way to start a movie. It's about a theater, man.

Darius: I don't mean to cut you off. Yeah. I'm skeptical going into these things. I just was just like enthralled when he's like, I believe what doesn't kill you simply makes you stranger.

Jordan: Makes you stranger. That line was crazy.

Darius: It was like I blinked and the movie was over. I was like, this is completely washed over, which is the highest praise for me when it comes to a movie, a superhero movie. So sorry for interrupting you though.

Jordan: Yeah, so it says the first heist. First of all, it's phenomenal way to start a movie. Zip lining across buildings, Gotham City, broad daylight, you know. Christopher Nolan famously does all his movies practically, so you know it's not CGI in some studio and some ******** you know what I mean? I love the way he, looking back now, it's like fun to break down the movie and like the strategy and the Easter egg and stuff like that. And the first heist was an excellent way to show the Joker's intentions, you know, because like Remember, he famously keeps saying, I don't care about money. So he's like, really just doing his **** for the love of the game. He's doing this to get leverage over the mob to force his hands so he can work with them, you know, to show his brilliance. You know, you have the school bus coming in right as like in line with other school buses when the heist is over. Having the criminals kill each other one by one so he didn't have to kill them. Also, I just love whenever like bosses or evil bad guys in movies work in secret with their staff.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: So they can kind of get a feel of what's going on, make sure the job goes smoothly. I thought that was brilliant as well. Yeah, man, that's just a great ******* opening season to a superhero movie. Like that's who who thinks of that? Christopher Nolan. But like, who else thinks of that? You know what I mean?

Darius: That's why he's him. So let me ask you this. You are a superhero movie aficionado. Yeah. I can answer for me what makes this different, but what makes this so different? What makes this different for you? Like what makes this a classic without this like, cause there's like good for a superhero movie and then good. What makes this one shake the disclaimers?

Jordan: Okay, that's a great question. I actually was gonna ask you that myself. So the thing that makes this movie a great movie and just so unique is that literally every single character has to make a difficult choice. Every single character, maybe it's when he's old, so we don't have to really do the acting, honestly, but Batman has to decide, is he willing to kill the Joker? Gordon and they have to decide, are we going to choose Rachel or Harvey to save, you know, when they're tied up? Rachel has to decide, am I going to stay with Bruce or am I going to go with Harvey Dent? You know, the mob have to decide, like, are you going to go full evil or are you just going to be like regular bad guys? Because they like, they're not they're not Are the mobsters bad? Sure. Are they evil? No. I even like how there's the scene where there's the cop who tries to fight the Joker when he's in the interrogation room and he's like, I know the bad guys who just needed the punks need lesson in manners or the psychos who do the **** for fun, you know? And that that's this movie does a great job just really illustrating that because like Michael J. White's character, you know, he's like, who is this dude? Like, you know what I mean? The whole movie is like, kill this guy, please.

Darius: You know, you get that credit. You got a credit in a Christopher Nolo movie. He does like ****** kung fu movies on Tubi. How the hell you get in this Christopher Nolan Batman vehicle with speaking lines, not just like a background character.

Jordan: Well, I think that's one of my favorite things about Christopher Nolan is because he people put this like hoity toity filmmaker tag on him, but he's genuinely just a lover of cinema. Like people **** on Fast Furious moves and you know, that's like a popular thing to do. He's like, I love those movies. They're a lot of fun. Who like who's to say what's good or bad? I love those movies, you know, and I think that's what makes Chris Fenolan a great filmmaker is that he watches and enjoys all kinds of films, you know, also like I would have loved to have seen Michael G White just do some sort of like martial arts because he is like a martial arts legend. I think it would have been dope to see, but even him, he had some of the funniest lines in the scenes in the movie, like him and Heath Ledger together were great. Yeah, I think that's what makes this movie different is that every character has an interesting choice to make. when the Joker says, if y'all don't kill the dude who says, I know who Batman is, I'm gonna blow up a hospital and someone you love is gonna die. And every character's like, all right, **** it, you gotta die, man. You know what I mean? You got the prison dilemma with the two fairies, you know, like no one wakes up. Think about it, like you're a citizen in Gotham and you didn't wake up to be thinking, hey, am I gonna kill 500 people on a boat who I never had no problem with? You know, I think And also just the social commentary of the prisoners didn't even, they didn't register with them that they would kill the other people. And they're viewed as the bad guys. But the civilians were like, **** them, let's kill them. You know.

Darius: I'd hit that ************* button. Bunch of rapists and murderers on that boat. All right. You need to give it to me. I hate that. I they had their side. They're violent criminals over there.

Jordan: That's exactly what that dude said. He was like, they had their chains. Yeah, they chose to lie and steal.

Darius: That ain't even a day. No prisoner's dilemma. Ain't no dilemma for me. Yeah, I think. That's the part about Christopher Nolan's movies that make it special is that by and large they're not pretentious. Like the Odyssey has a giant Cyclops eating people. Right. You know, and. there's just the giant, giant dudes killing, the people turn into pigs and then interstellars and it's mathematical, but it's like the most pretentious movie.

Jordan: It's a space movie.

Darius: Yeah, it's a space movie. And there's time lapses and all kinds of **** like that. And I mean, the most pretentious movie is probably Oppenheimer. That might be my least favorite one of his.

Jordan: And even that, I didn't find it very pretentious. Like, you know, The way he broke down like the elements, he just, he treated them like marbles. So he made it simple, for people to follow.

Darius: The last hour of the movie was a congressional hearing for Commerce Secretary.

Jordan: Yeah, but I'm a poly side nerd, so like, I'm a, you know, I thought that **** was thrilling. I'm a poly side nerd, so I don't, you know.

Darius: I think Memento's is worse, but if I had to. Yeah, but I'm his bottom third, but it's a good movie. Don't get me wrong.

Jordan: That's crazy.

Darius: It's a good movie, but it is. I have not watched. It's not a popcorn movie since I left the theater. I've not watched one scene of that movie.

Jordan: I watched it back once. I loved it, but I did break it up into thirds because it's a three hour movie about talking.

Darius: And I even like it's I enjoyed it, but I knew when I left that theater, I was like, I probably never like, I'm not watching that. I haven't watched another scene of Killers of the Flower Moon. I love that too.

Jordan: You know, like, yeah, that's what I don't think I'll watch ever again. Also, just really sad. Yeah. So to your point about Nolan not being pretentious, like even when people were asking him during the press run for Odyssey, they were like, oh, like you got these characters saying like dad instead of father, like, why'd you do that? He's like, I wanted to be accessible. You know, I wanted to use music that Feel the times where they didn't feel hoity-toity like an orchestra or something like that. it's not. I don't want people to associate my movies with basically with like British snobberies, basically what he was saying, Also, it's an adaptation.

Darius: The great words of Jay-Z. If you want my old **** buy my old album, you know, the Odysseys of I bought it for a dollar. Go read that if you want the original, you know, right?

Jordan: Yeah, exactly. Like it's supposed to be unique.

Darius: If you wanted a word for word that exists for a dollar on Kindle go buy it yeah um what else you got fracked one.

Jordan: Um so I love that there's only one villain that is in the whole Batman trilogy and that it's Scarecrow uh played by Killian Murphy um also he just is a phenomenal was a phenomenal comic book villain he like he didn't have huge roles in the movies but he was just like really really dope.

Darius: He tried out for Batman and.

Jordan: Um and they were like no.

Darius: No, you got to get, you got to get some reps first. But Dolan called him back because I got this like small part. Well, it wasn't a small part in the first movie, but he was like, I'm not turning down. Do you think I'm going to keep asking me? Like, ****. I'm like, Urkel, I'm already outside. Like, yeah, who cares?

Jordan: **** give me any other roles you got. I'll take, you know.

Darius: Me and Oppenheimer winning an Oscar. So.

Jordan: Correct. And he didn't get that role if he says no to Nolan. Probably didn't get that role if he says no to Nolan about, you know, playing scarecrow. Oh yeah, so I texted you this like last week. I was watching the movie just for fun even before watching it for the pod. And Christopher Nolan is one of the great visual storytellers as well, just like using like shots and symbolism. And one of my favorite parallels is like, if you go back and notice like the lighting and the layout of the new Batcave and because he's in that penthouse because his crib break out in the first one, it's the exact same as his boardroom where he's fell asleep in that meeting with Lyle. And it's almost like I took it to mean like, you know, he's Batman everywhere. You know what I'm saying? Like the Batcave and the boardroom are the same for him because he's still doing his investigation and he's still, you know, trying to, you know, make sure Gotham is in good hands, essentially. I thought that was pretty dope. visual storytelling. Also, people like to say, like, it's Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan's not funny. Like, it's not jokes in his movies. And this movie is hilarious. Heath Ledger was every line Heath Ledger had in this movie was hilarious to me. You know, he's like, you think you stole from us and get away? Get away with it. He's like, yeah. And when he has the grenade, he's like, let's not blow this out of proportion. That's pretty good.

Darius: I mean, I could have used. Well, we already reviewed the Odyssey, so we're going to do that. But yeah, there's definitely a bunch of there's some some humor in this movie, but it's easier to do that when you're dealing with Batman and the Joker.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: You know, so it's the source material is humorous in general. So correct. You got anything else for act one?

Jordan: No, let's look after act one.

Darius: Act two, the escalation of chaos that. enigmatic antagonist unleashes psychological warfare across the city, targeting public officials. I have my Floyd Mayweather moment there. As terrorists pass rapidly throughout the city, the heroes are forced to come, escalating impossible moral dilemmas daily. I dare you to read a page of a Harry Potter book. Enigmatic is actually a hard word to pronounce. You know, 10 times fast.

Jordan: Enigmatic, enigmatic, enigmatic.

Darius: It's harder than it looks, especially when you didn't read it before. So it just kind of hits you like a speed bump.

Jordan: Enigma, please.

Darius: So is it is the Batman? I get it's true to the comics, but like the fact that he doesn't kill people is just a bizarre line to draw when Joker is like responsible for murdering half the city. Correct. And it kind of breaks immersion a little bit. I'm just like, you know, you could fix this.

Jordan: With one with a full of a finger.

Darius: You know, you've already committed 12 crimes today. Yeah, actually like law enforcement, right? You can fix your problem, buddy.

Jordan: And you wear gloves. They wouldn't know who did it. Exactly. Yeah. So it's funny. I have this note for act three, but like, there's that remember the letter where she's like, I don't think there'll ever be a day where you don't need Batman anymore. I think that's part of the psychology behind him not killing people. I mean, I think he won't do it for moral reasons, but I think it's also like, but if I kill my biggest op, who Who am I gonna go against? You know what I mean? Like Batman does love the thrill. It is an adrenaline rush. You know, he does love the combat. He does love the confrontation and the violence, you know? And I think that if there is no confrontation, then there's no violence. And then what's he gonna do with his monster? The monster inside of him, I mean.

Darius: That is true. You know what internet trend, it's kind of dived down now that I hate the most when like some obnoxious nerd is like, Batman could have funded social services instead of doing all of this. And it's like, okay, that would be a really boring movie.

Jordan: That'd be right. And by the way, Batman did fund social services.

Darius: You know, like, we're just gonna, I'm gonna dress him too as in a bat suit and then sit for student board or school board meetings. I don't know.

Jordan: Yeah, like that's not. If I was a billionaire and you gave me the option to sign documents or fight people, I think I'm going to go with fighting people and flying off roofs.

Darius: Yeah, it's just like, at first it was like a bit, and then I was like, oh no, y'all are serious?

Jordan: They're like, no, he should be, he should run for Congress.

Darius: No, in real life, I don't want billionaires being vigilantes, but the beauty of fiction is that it's not real. So much internet discourse is driven by people who don't seem to understand that fiction is not actually real.

Jordan: Yeah, I think so.

Darius: It's just people got to remember these things are fake. That's what makes them fun. We can correct. Once the movie is over, we that world is ended, you know, until there's a sequel or whatever. But what else you got for act two?

Jordan: Oh, yeah. So the one of my favorite lines from the first Batman is when Rosa Gould says, you want to make yourself more than a man to put yourself to an idea. And I feel like The Joker does that just as well as Batman does. he's got, obviously the makeup and the outfit and all that, but like he's just a guy running around doing crazy **** but like everyone's still afraid of him. Everyone's still like, he walked in the room with the mob and no one did anything. You know what I mean? Like granted he had grenades, but they didn't know that the whole time he was in the room. You know, it's like that he was just like larger than life figure and just the perfect foil or a perfect fool to Batman in this movie because he was just so lawless and just had no rules and didn't care about any sort of impoliteness or moral, you know, boundaries, anything like that.

Darius: A man who has like no, like when you deal with most criminals, like money is a motivation. The desire to be free is a motivation. But like Joker is the worst because nothing like he just wants chaos. He just wants to burn this place down and How do you control that? How do you work with that? How do you keep that? You kill it. But it's not an option, but you just, you lock him up and he's out in 30 minutes because he's willing to blow the police station up. You know, like there's nothing you can do for someone who does not care about. The most dangerous person is someone who doesn't give a **** you know?

Jordan: Yeah, no, you can not **** with someone who has nothing to lose. What was I gonna say? Oh yeah, so one of my favorite scenes in the movie is when the guy goes to Morgan Freeman's office and he's like, so I ran through your numbers and he's like, shows the picture of the Batmobile. He's like, so what are you bidding for him next? I want $10 million a year every year for the rest of my life. And then Morgan Freeman, as only he can, just calmly is just like, so your plan is to blackmail this person? Good luck.

Darius: It was a great, it was one of my great seeds. He goes, you psych your client or your boss, I forget. It was like one of the richest and most powerful men in the world. Spends his night chasing and beating up criminals to a bloody pulp.

Jordan: With his bare hands.

Darius: You know, probably should have paid that tab though, because they ended up getting in a little trouble later. Yeah. But It's true, though. Maybe they should have been better about hiding it. Why are you got schematics of the actual Batmobile available to regular employees? It's not a good idea. But no, that was a great moment of what again, Morgan Freeman did. Does any no one turns out Christopher Nolan's calls? He got everybody. So you got Morgan Freeman in his best Morgan Freeman character actor yourself just just nailing the line. So for sure you got anything else right to.

Jordan: So this movie is really fun to me because of the chess moves that everybody's making everybody's platinum scheme. It's almost like Game of Thrones. Everyone is trying to like outmaneuver the next guy. Like I look back and I just realized like today watching the movie, there's a scene where Joker's provoking Batman to beat the **** out of him. And you think it's just because he's a psycho and he didn't care about pain. He wanted Batman to hit him so he could break the glass. So we could have something to threaten the cops with when he inevitably needed to break out to call the guy to blow up the blow up the prison cell. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it was all a scheme. Like it wasn't. He does nothing random. Nothing is on accident. Like the fact that he thought that far in advance and everything played out exactly how he schemed it is insane.

Darius: That I didn't I didn't even catch that was so like Joseph could not be actually crazy and playing all this stuff. So he like the schizophrenia stuff has to be like a right. Like it just doesn't.

Jordan: No. Yeah, I don't think that gets.

Darius: He's way too high functioning and far too calculated. Yeah, it's just. It's impossible for him to actually be crazy and do all of this. I've known crazy people. They can't.

Jordan: They're not that smart.

Darius: You can't send in a Wendy's and get their order right. Like, it's.

Jordan: No, no, no.

Darius: Like, how did you I texted you what to order and you ****** it up. Yeah. So I know for sure. You got anything else right to?

Jordan: Okay. Yeah. So where do you think Bruce and I and Harvey were naive? Like when they were kind of like, I think I knew they thought they were going to catch the Joker, but the fact that now that they kind of factored in that he had cops on the inside too.

Darius: It's not that they didn't factor it in. I just. What do you do? Give up? You know, it's like they had a mission. It was more or less a suicide pact. You know, Harvey was going to die for it. The only thing he wasn't willing to do was lose Rachel. And that's what happened. Turn him crazy. But you at a certain point, you just have to say, I guess I'm just going to die for this. I know this is the right thing to do, and I'm going to see it through to the end. And he that will until Rachel died, he had plans to see it through to the end foreshadowing to face. Yeah. So I don't I don't think they were naive. I just I just they knew the scale of the problem and they knew the difficulty. And when they failed, basically, I mean, I don't think, you know, that's one thing that makes the movie interesting is that the good guys lost.

Jordan: Yeah, I think that's another thing too.

Darius: That's rare for us. I mean, I can only think of it happening here in an infinity war. And then they erase the infinity war a year later. So it was like, this is that's actually a callback to the earlier question. What makes this movie different is there's actual stakes and consequences. The good guys didn't just fix everything. People died. The good guys didn't just fix everything in the third act. And you watch it and you can feel the stakes of the movie. It just doesn't feel like everything's going to work out. And it didn't. And that's not to say that everything, sometimes it's okay if everything works out. But my problem with MCU is that every movie just starts to feel like a trailer for the next movie because nothing actual, there's never anything, nothing's permanent. And so it's just like, am I watching a movie in and of itself or am I just watching a trailer for the next one? And it just start to, well, it hit me and in game when it just felt like why did what it everything that happened in Infinity War was just erased and it was like okay well why am I even here just these aren't.

Jordan: Movies anymore right you know that's the problem with House of Dragons this season it was like nothing happened it was all set up for season 4 which is the last season so What the hell was the point?

Darius: You just start to feel like a sucker. You feel like one of those people watching the cards on the street. It's like, is this, this is a head game. Like, I just, I just watched this movie and you just fixed it. And now the next movie, you're like, oh, but this time it's like, no, you're not. You're lying. It's never going to end. Yeah, but I did enjoy my time with it again. And that's why I love this movie though, because there's actual stakes. And then to go on to the next movie, Dark Knight Rises, you know, the stakes get even higher. Batman doesn't even make it out of that way. Batman actually dies. Bruce Wayne goes on, but you know, so that's what makes this one special. I should have said that earlier. So yeah, it's act three.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Act 3, the soul of Gotham. With Gotham hanging in the balance, a desperate struggle unfolds to preserve hope. The caped crusader makes an agonizing ultimate sacrifice, protecting the city's future by carrying a heavy burden. Let me just say, in 2006, the cell phone GPS location thing felt so out of the world, creepy, futuristic, and that's just our world now. Flock cameras are just going to be around, I guess. We're just going to deal with being constantly monitored, which is not my favorite thing in the world. So it's amazing how literally made. What's that Morgan Freeman's character's name? I'm drawing a blank.

Jordan: Lucius.

Darius: Lucius quit the company because it was so such a violation of civilization.

Jordan: Violation, yeah.

Darius: Is that's just what we, 20 years later, that's just our work.

Jordan: That's funny because I always felt like He was tripping in that scene. Like, I get it morally, but it's like, yo, we have a raging psychopath. We're in the streets. Can you help me with this one thing and delete it forever?

Darius: Yeah, but it's like I get it. And in the movie for sure. But it's like. The reason why the rights have to be for everybody and the reason why, you know. Even the most serial killer, terrible person in the world gets an attorney is because if they don't have rights, none of us do. And so it's like if if you start making exceptions, oh, they you become the exception eventually. I don't know, you know, the first they came for me and first they came for this person, then they came for that person. And right, right. Eventually you will be on the inside on the outside of that exception list. And so on the yeah, you'll be on that list of people that are accepted outside of the circle of rights. So, you know, I wasn't in that. What you got for act three?

Jordan: Was I did have I forgot I did have the reveal the Batman scene in Act 3 where he's got you got Bruce basically just trying to ward off all the cars with his Lambo.

Darius: Oh yeah, man, we've dropped the whole act structure for this. Yeah, That was just a, you know, chapter one, chapter two, chapter three type thing.

Jordan: Right. And I just want to say that it breaks my heart every time I'm watching that beautiful Lamborghini get crushed by the F-150. Oh my God, that car is a masterpiece. And also, I don't know if you know the car, a Lamborghini Marcelago. It actually means bat in French. So I love the symbolism there with that. But oh my God, that car was nice. I don't care how rich I am. I would throw up if I had to just get a new one.

Darius: Yeah, because those can't be repaired.

Jordan: No.

Darius: They're not going to touch that. The scene, the highway chase scene, watch that in my living room. It was fully shot in IMAX, and it's just, you know, turn off all the lights, get the biggest TV you could find, get a soundbar, throw your phone across the room so you're not looking at it, and just watch that 20 minutes and just become engrossed in it. It's, you know, it's cinema, as a great Martin Squire once said.

Jordan: Is that a bazooka?

Darius: And he comes down and he's like, and he shoots a bazooka thing and then they're racing and then the little kids look at the bike and it just, that was probably the best 20 minutes of the trilogy.

Jordan: Yeah, it's one of the best chase scenes ever.

Darius: And then we find out Lieutenant Gordon is alive and it's going to be Commissioner Gordon. And it's just, it's good stuff. It's good stuff.

Jordan: And it's the first time you see the bat pod. Remember the front wheels spin out because the car got totaled. that was so that was so. And he's like running through the mall and ****.

Darius: Yeah, it's just beautifully shot. Yeah, really engrossing. You know, that's superhero movies at their best is when you give us that kind of spectacle and that kind of technical precision.

Jordan: So I agree. And I will say, like, like after Harvey becomes two face, I was in favor of pretty much everything he did up until he got Gordon Gordon's family, like killing, killing works. I was cool with killing the mob guy. I was cool with. I think Ramirez got off light, but I was okay with him getting back in blood behind this lady. It was just when he kidnapped the kid that he took it too far.

Darius: Yeah. I mean, he just it. I did a little Googling because I'm not a comic book person, but apparently Two-Face isn't really a straightforward villain in the sense that like he just leaves he, you know, he's a madman in the sense that his brain is warped. Like sometimes he does good things, sometimes he does bad things. And it's kind of I mean, he only had like 20 minutes of screen time, but you kind of you kind of see it reflected in the script of the movie.

Jordan: Yeah, he was more of a I mean, it's like a corner flip. Two-Face, like he really was just kind of a morally kind of shifty kind of character. And in the comics and in the show, he like was still in love with Rachel who was alive. But they obviously couldn't be together because they were on two different sides of the law. But yeah, and also, like even going back and watching, like there are scenes where you can kind of tell words and Ramirez were on shady **** like the glances they kind of give during certain scenes and stuff. And even like back to The scene where Joker comes into Bruce's penthouse, the cop holding the badge is worse. And like first it looks like he's being held hostage, but it's like looking back, I'm like, oh no, he was working with them. He was pretending to be held hostage. So I love that the performances both those actors play because they didn't have big roles, but they just did a great job of like helping the twist of the story.

Darius: There are no small roles in Christopher Doe movies.

Jordan: That is true.

Darius: Yeah, he's, yeah, he, yeah, he's an efficient, efficient scorer. If you're in there for 10 minutes, you get some shots up. So.

Jordan: You're getting shots up. Yeah.

Darius: He does not, he doesn't waste nobody's time, you know.

Jordan: No, not at all. And plus, we're just gonna dope *** movie set with legends pretty much every movie he makes. So. There's really no locks.

Darius: He brought back Razagul for, well, Liam Neeson for The Dark Knight Rise.

Jordan: Five minutes.

Darius: It was great. It was like, it was great flashback. He lets you get some shots up now. He don't, he don't waste your time.

Jordan: You work with him one time. You got a job for life.

Darius: Yeah. But to be fair, like he's not out there working with scrubs, so.

Jordan: No, not at all.

Darius: You know, so every director does that like. You know, Tarantino, his people.

Jordan: He's hiring Samuel every time.

Darius: Samuel. Brad Pitt being a lot of them.

Jordan: Yeah, Brad Pitt.

Darius: Michael Mann is in a lot of them. I think he's dead now. R.I.P.

Jordan: Who else? Who else?

Darius: Walter Goggins.

Jordan: Yeah. Christoph Waltz.

Darius: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Anyth