JordanHey everybody, welcome back to Out the Trunk with Jordan and Darius. I'm Jordan, that's Jordan to be writing on all socials.
DariusAnd I'm Darius, that's Deez, I love the area on all socials.
JordanAnd today we're gonna be reviewing Tales from the Hood, who came out in 1995. Tossing it to you for act one.
DariusAll right, act one, we're gonna do something a little different this time. This movie is about like 4 short stories in one. So we're gonna do 4 acts. Each act is gonna be a different short story. So act one, Road cop revelation, corrupt white police officers murder a clean activist black councilman after he catches them dealing drugs, while rookie black cop Clarence stands by and does nothing. A year later, Clarence quits the force and watches in horror as the councilman's vengeful zombie rises from the grave, brutally kills the three corrupt cops, and drives Clarence into an asylum. Also, this is a spoiler review. So off the rip, fun fact about Darius, this is the third movie I ever saw in a movie theater. Oh, wow. We lived in Mississippi. And that I was spending the summer visiting, my sister and I were spending the summer visiting relatives in Minnesota. And we saw three movies that summer. We saw Friday, we saw Money Talks, and we saw Tales from the Hood. Did I have any business seen that at age 7? No.
JordanNone of that ****.
DariusBut that's what kids did in the summer in the 90s. They went and saw movies they had no business seeing. Correct. Special place in my heart for this one. So what you got for that one?
JordanMan, so one I love, I like, so I'm not a big horror movie like aficionado generally. I've gotten into horror the last couple of years. And what I really love about the genre is the way that it uses, the way that it spins themes and political statements and things like that on its head. I think that's really dope and the symbolism is always really cool. That's what I've really come to appreciate about these movies. But I just want to say that black cop was dumb as **** because what the hell did you think they were going to do when they told you to walk away and put his **** in the system? Also, like you couldn't hear them beating the **** out of him.
DariusNot sure the order of release, but in a previous segment we talked about like how you people overestimate how they're going to react in stressful situations. He's A rookie cop. It's probably his first.
JordanI get it.
DariusCouple of years on the beat. I'm going to shoot him some bail on that one. Now he made now when they say, hey, we're going to take him to the hospital and he winds up dead in the river.
JordanCome on, man.
DariusCome on, man. Come on, dog. I loved everyone thinks they would, be Captain America and break out the shield and smack people. I just think it's harder than it looks. It's kind of where I am. I'm not saying he's right. I'm saying it's harder than it looks.
JordanI hear you. Well, see, I'm not even necessarily saying that he, I mean, do I like to think that I would have tried to stop it? Yes. Do I know that I would in that moment? I don't know. But I'm more so just like, you just really didn't know what they were going to do. Like, it's like, you know, it's okay, like Dark Knight, where he's like, when Harvey Dent was in Two Faces, he chased down all the cops that kind of had a hand in Rachel dying. And he's like, they're like, oh, I didn't know what they were going to do. He's like, okay, what exactly did you think they were going to do? You know, that's my main question to him.
DariusI mean, is in the 90s, I mean, this story was probably the 80s.
JordanYeah.
DariusAnd so it's based on the Rodney King beating, but which isn't a nice, but so you get, you know, government jobs police jobs are like one of the few tickets black people had to the middle class back then right so you get the job thinking you know it's a good job make a difference the money it can make a difference and then like obviously they didn't want him there right you know it just if they could have their druthers he wouldn't have been involved with it either and you just walk up on the worst thing you could do as a rookie cop it's tough but I did want to say Movie in general, this is one of the flashbacks, but the main story of the movie is 3 drug dealers go to a funeral home and the funeral home director discovered some drugs and they're trying to get the drugs for cheap, so on and so forth. It's really hard to overstate how violent the 90s were because none of these movies were all that unrealistic.
JordanNo, like not at all. Like none of it felt like, oh, that's cartoonish or anything. Like it all felt like, yeah, that's what would happen.
DariusIt was like, people don't understand if you watch commercial, there was a whole commercial campaign about putting a crowbar on your steering wheel, because that's how often cars got stolen. Right. We used to get out of our cars, and this was late 90s, early 2000s, and remove our radios because you just didn't want anyone to bust your windows and take your radio out your car, because that was entirely possible.
JordanI think somebody actually did steal one of my parents' radios out of the car one time. I think that did actually happen if I remember correct.
DariusBut yeah. I had so many bikes stolen when I was a kid. My parents just stopped buying them. It was like, damn. Now I can just, when I go for a run, I just see kids' bikes laying around the neighborhood because like it's a safe neighborhood and no one's gonna steal your bike. That's not how it used to be. You had to have a lock with your bike and you had to lock it onto things because people just stole bikes.
JordanYeah.
DariusThat's just what they did. And we're not, that's not even violent stuff. That's just regular crime. And it's just, we saw a little uptick in crime after COVID and the crime is bad and we should always push back on crime, but it cannot be overstated how much, how much worse things were in the 80s and 90s. Right.
JordanYeah.
DariusWhat else you got, Frank?
JordanAnd it's a testament to how far we've come to, because like I remember I rode my bike to high school, freshman year of high school, because I just didn't feel like doing the bus. And I was like, I can wake up, ride 10 minutes, and save up some sleep or whatever. I remember the first day of school, I could not find the bike lock. Usually they're in the front, but it was like in the back. I had never been to school before. So I'm like, ****. So I just like left my bike in the bushes for the whole day. And I came back out and I was like, the whole day I was like, please God let my bike still be there.
DariusAnd it was like, you know, we got to the point where because the bike lock, you would put it on your front tire and lock it to the thing. We started locking our frame to it because we heard someone they just took the tire off and took the front. So we started. Now, I don't know if that actually happened, but we heard it happen. And that was enough. And we started locking our frame to the thing because we heard that the wood actually took it off the tire off. And so, yeah, I had so many bikes stolen. My parents just stopped buying new bikes.
JordanIt was crazy.
DariusAt least for a year. They're like, you're not getting a new bike this year. You have too many. Like, it's my fault.
JordanGet you a skateboard. Nicks can't do that. It's a long year.
DariusBut yes, this story was loosely based on the Rodney King beating. So they beat the man up within an inch of his life. And to top it off, they objected him with something in a very 90s way. He would never pass any sort of investigation.
JordanSo the dude who never had done heroin, there's no needle marks on his arms. You check his system, obviously, the toxicology report. And then he just had two bricks in the mask.
DariusAnd he shoots himself with heroin and then puts it in his front pocket.
JordanRight, because that's where they'll never find it. And then he crashes to the rivers.
DariusAlso just like no one heard the beating. No one's like it was in a neighborhood and they were beating the **** out of him. And yeah. How do you explain the broken window in his car? You would head through the window. There'd be blood everywhere. It's a movie.
JordanYeah. That was my also my thing, too, because it's like, I've never done drugs or heroin or anything like that, you know, but like the idea that someone would do heroin, crash their car, and then fly off into the river. It just seems like there's like, that's like 4 murders in one. You know what I mean?
DariusYou know, it's movie magic that would not pass. A rookie investigator would show up and be like, this story does not make sense.
JordanOnly an idiot would believe that.
DariusIt's the 90s.
JordanYeah, true.
DariusYou got any questions for Act Boy? Because I just have one.
JordanWell, for one, so everybody's in this movie. Like everybody who kind of, like a lot of like young black stars were in this movie. Stacy from The wood you had, I think that his partner who in Boys in the Hood or in the wood was his man's in this one too. The bald guy. I think that was that the same dude.
DariusNo.
JordanSo it was like crime when the cop pulled up.
DariusNo, it's a different dude. So that dude is a minister society to do Kane stomped out.
JordanOkay. Yeah.
DariusThat's him. He recently passed. RIP.
JordanOh, man. I didn't know that.
DariusJoe Tory.
JordanYeah. Tory. Yeah.
DariusDavid Alan Greer, later on.
JordanCame from Soul Food.
DariusCame from Soul Food. The white cop who was super duper, like cartoonishly evil, who was decapitated, he's known for something. I just don't remember what. I'll look it up. You can fill a buster.
JordanThe racist white guy, the racist politician in the last one, or the second to last one, he plays Sean's dad in Psych.
DariusYeah. So it was.
JordanYeah.
DariusThis is a sneaky launchpad.
JordanYeah, it really was. Okay. I came from Oisha was in it in the fourth. In the fourth one. The older lady with the lock, she looked really familiar, but I just can't place her. I can't place her anywhere in any sort of movie in particular. I'm sorry. First I thought she was Toni Morrison.
DariusI think Morrison with that got dead in this ********. Let me ask you this. One of my favorite lines is, so Clarence is reincarnated. He's a zombie. He kills everybody. And it gets to the end and he's talking to, well, Clarence was the cop, but the black guy was the counselman. Yeah, he's just like, are you satisfied now, brother? And he's like, where were you when I needed you, brother? When someone witnesses wrongdoing and doesn't come forward, do you consider them just as culpable?
JordanI mean, that's what my parents said when we were growing up.
DariusFair enough.
JordanI mean, so I mean, it's hard to say because there is a difference between doing something and watching it.
DariusYeah, I have one here by definition, they're not just as culpable, but there is something there, right? there's a reason why in the law, If you're the getaway driver for a bank robber, you can't just, you don't just get ticketed for speeding.
JordanNo, right, You were there for the planning, obviously.
DariusYou were part of it. You didn't go in, but you were getting charged with a bank robbery.
JordanYeah, you were complicit. Then was it involvement? No, but I mean.
DariusThat's why people don't understand in a lot of states, it's not all of them, but like according to like the actual statute of murder laws, If you agree to do one crime, you're agreeing to them all. So let's just say you are the gateway driver in that bank robbery and one of the people inside just killed somebody. You're on the hook for that murder, even though you didn't agree to do a murder. You were just like, we're just robbing this bank. Let's get our money. Let's go home. But if something goes on in there and they and someone dies, that's your *** that you're on the books for that murder.
JordanLike, yeah, like think about it. If you host a party and something happens at that party, you're that's you. Like, that's you. You're going to get some culpability for that.
DariusIt just depends. But if you don't agree to one crime unless you're willing to take them all, because it's people on death row who are like, dude, I just, I knew we were going to rob the liquor store, but the plan was not to kill anyone. And then they killed the clerk and now we all on death row for murder. And all I did was drive there and drive home.
JordanYeah, that's kind of how I judge it. Like if worst case scenario, all hell breaks loose and something horrific happens. Would you be on the hook for that? And if so, then maybe don't do that thing or be there for that event.
DariusI will shoot him some bail in the sense that like, he's not going to be Captain America in the moment.
JordanRight.
DariusBut to just quit the force and let them besmirch this man's name and not come forward with anything. And just, I just, you got to be.
JordanYou could have called in. Yeah, because you could have called in a tip and anonymous tip. There were things that you could have done.
DariusYou are an eyewitness.
JordanTo at the very least, police brutality, at the very least.
DariusA murder. Well, he didn't have witnessed a murder, but you get it. You have material evidence.
JordanRight.
DariusYou know, it's just sometimes hard things are hard. You just got to do the hard thing. I'm sorry.
JordanYeah.
DariusI can't style you out for that. I can style you out for it in the moment. I can't style you out for letting them.
JordanIt's really the after the fact stuff. I think, honestly, like you just wait, you become a drunk, like, I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying in real life, you should do this in the scope of the movie. Revenge is a big factor here. Maybe hunt them down, at least.
DariusIt's just, you get home, you sleep on it, you wake up the next day, you find out he's dead. You got it, you got to say something. You just can't.
JordanRight.
DariusYou know.
JordanAnd also the cops were still so stupid. They put on gloves after they had done everything you could possibly do except for spit on the guy in terms of like leaving DNA, you know.
DariusMy guess is they just didn't expect him to be, which they're right, much of an investigation.
JordanTrue, which speaks to the privilege. And I will say I did like that they did a reference to Blue Wall of Silence, where when he's in the car with the cop and he's like, hey, don't go against the badge. We're all in this together. Don't say anything. He's basically trying to say, because it will **** ** your career. And I've had, I have, obviously I know somebody who's an officer, but I had a friend whose dad was in the police force and she's told me stories like he would report **** and he would try to say, hey, this cop did this or is doing these things. something is going wrong here. And his career suffered because of it. They were roadblocks in front of him, And then-
DariusThat's any job though, right? obviously, the stakes are higher than the police, but nobody in any job likes the person who goes and tells management what's going on. Obviously, the stakes to the police are just way higher.
JordanCorrect. But even like you saw the **** in Charlotte that just broke a couple of days ago?
DariusI have not. I saw it break. I'm not well versed on it, so I can't really speak on it.
JordanOkay, cool. We'll wait.
DariusI've been seeing past the headlines. So yeah, no, I mean, yeah, you got to say something in that in that situation. So yeah, yeah. Anything else for this one?
JordanI did like that because a lot of times in black movies when there's when race is a fact is a character in the story, they always try to subliminally tell us to take the high road and be the bigger man. And I like that this movie didn't do that.
DariusNo, he hunted him down.
JordanYeah.
DariusI'm the one on the cross.
JordanYeah.
DariusThat was, that was, yeah. He got his revenge and the dude ended up in an asylum forever. They didn't actually explain how he died, but you know, the movie. done movie, but a movie nonetheless.
JordanSo yeah, true.
DariusHeading into act 2, story 2, if you will, boys do get bruised. A sensitive young boy named Walter insists to his teacher that a monstrous creature attacks him and his mother at home every night. When the teacher visits their apartment to investigate, he discovers the monster is actually the mother's violently abusive boyfriend who savagely beats the teacher before Walter uses a drawing ritual to fold and burn the abusive man alive. David Alan Greer. one of the underrated black actors of our time. He's a character actor. He never really got his like star vehicle, but to this day he's still working, still on stage, 70 something years old. And you know, he's one of our icons. So just wanted to give him a little quick shout out here because this is a role way outside of his normal scope. Normally he's a bit funnier, a bit lighter, but his range is incredible and shout out to him.
JordanYeah, he's one of the he's the definition of literally, like, if your goal is to be a working actor, he's someone you should look into or his career you should study for sure.
DariusLooked him busy for 40 years.
JordanSo literally got to respect it. So obviously this one has the kid from Soul Food in it. I think the my first takeaway slash question is When he tells the teacher what happens at home and he tells him like, when his dad hit you, he says, my dad's dead, and then he says, there's a monster attacking me. I don't understand the concept of telling a child you don't believe what they're saying. I think that's one of the most dangerous things a teacher in particular could ever do.
DariusI agree. But so I mean,
JordanYou at least got to placate to get more information for sure.
DariusWell, I mean, it's tough because kids have imaginations and he didn't say his mom had a boyfriend. And so look, I think there's a little bit of what's called hindsight bias. Like we know what happened. So we're judging how we would have reacted, but we didn't have the information that he had at the time. And so he did. In short order, go check it out. one bruise can be a kid, climbing a tree, fell down, hurt himself. Oh, a monster did it. Kids have imaginations. Okay. It also, you have to be a bit discerning with these things when you're a mandated reporter. He didn't say, my mom's boyfriend is hitting me. He said a monster did it. And, you know, okay, once I keep my eye, he kept his eye on them. Weird. Keep his eye on him. Bring him to the nurse. You can still you could sense the skepticism second time. All right, let's play the home a visit. I don't think. Yeah, I'm not going to come. Obviously, you'd like him to go on the first visit, but, you know. Right. It's kind of like when people get mad that like a loved one, like true crime, someone will go missing for real and then people will get mad at the police, like, wait 48 hours to do a missing persons report. And it's like, do you know how many times someone calls the police saying their spouse didn't come home and they was out with someone they had no business being with? It's like, if the police mobilize every time, some husband or wife didn't come home when they were supposed to, they'd never get any work done. So you have to have, and it looks bad when it actually is the missing thing. But you didn't see the thousands of times when the husband was just in a motel with his mistress, Right. so you have to kind of weigh the, weigh the, you have limited resources. he went in on his off, it's like he can go during school day, he has to get off work, go over there. And so he didn't, he jumped at the second one, not the first one. I'm not going to get down on him too hard about that. So.
JordanOkay.
DariusBut schools are usually the first line of defense against abuse at home because that's why it's a lot of these schools have strict attendance policies because one of the first signs that something's wrong at home is absences. That's what I was saying to school. My parents couldn't wait to get me to school so they can go about their visit. It was an 8 hour babysitter, baby.
JordanCorrect. Yeah. Usually it's because they, can't literally cannot be seen at school because of what they look like physically.
DariusWhy are you trying to avoid mandatory reporters? You know, it's like.
JordanRight, exactly.
DariusSo. But tell us you got fract too.
JordanYeah. Okay, so there's a scene where the climax scene where it's revealed that the boyfriend is actually the monster that the kid was drawing. He starts beating the mom, beating the kid. And It just felt like the teacher took forever to notice what the hell was happening. Everyone's screaming in the house. There's no way you can't hear that outside.
DariusWhere were the, I mean, if he was beating him like, well, maybe this night was just bad because he.
JordanBad.
DariusYeah.
JordanBut the neighbors, yeah, for sure. You wonder, makes you wonder.
DariusIt's tough, man. At first I thought, because I hadn't seen the movie in a while, and I just remember thinking.
JordanI'd actually never seen it.
DariusReally? Yeah, I'd never seen it before. I just remember thinking that the monster was his his bomb's boyfriend drunk and like, yeah, it was like a right. But he just clearly.
JordanOh, okay. Gotcha. Like a doctor. Mr. Hyde.
DariusYeah. Like he just he never once mentioned boyfriend. He just said, you know, the monster. And so I did like the sort of the way they I like when movies or TV shows sort of use a child's imagination to explain a real world event, like the same lot with the dog. I don't want to say it's cool because it's obviously about a very serious thing, but it was creative, if you will.
JordanYeah, it was a good window into how kids view things and how kids view adults, A man may not be scared to us, but to a child, it's Godzilla. It's like we said earlier, we're aliens to an ant. So, and then also the kid doesn't view him as a human because he's harming him and his mother. So in his mind, that is a literal, he is literally a monster.
DariusAnd it's also a way to compartmentalize, right? Like this is some supernatural thing happening and not just like the guy that, you know, the mom's boyfriend beat the **** out of me.
JordanRight.
DariusYeah, that's just that was a rough one.
JordanBut it was it was.
DariusLong and the short of it is that they triumph though, so they did. Anything else rag too?
JordanOkay, so I did think Hearst trying to seduce the teacher was a little odd considering the circumstances of like this dude's coming home in a minute. You know his schedule probably I'm assuming he comes home the same time every night. He's beating the hell out of you and you're going to try to **** another dude which kid in that like I don't know I thought that was kind of odd. I didn't really get that.
DariusIt felt very 90s lack of editing. I'm sure the budget for this movie was not great. Some of the ZGI was pretty solid.
JordanYeah, considering, yeah.
DariusThat's just one of those things that probably slipped through the cracks. I get the director had to get any just to rewrite that scene. Yeah, because it doesn't make anything else.
JordanIt didn't make any sense. It wouldn't align with. I don't even think it would align with what. she would have really done that situation, to be honest.
DariusGiven how violent he is, I'm surprised she let him in at all. Given how violent actually his character was.
JordanCorrect. Yeah.
DariusBut maybe I mean, I'm, you know, projecting a bit here, but I doubt he lets her leave the house much at all. And so, yeah, that was probably her one chance to get someone in to see how bad it was. Because true.
JordanYeah. because I think just based on the way Alan Greer's character was, David Alan Greer's character was dressed, he probably made good money. I'm going to assume he probably wanted her to stop working so he could control her further, cycle of use, all that sort of stuff. So she probably, yeah, you're probably right.
DariusYeah, that's, especially back then with the lack of communicate. There's no cell phones. There's no social media. A lot of abused women were very isolated. Like, you know, that's probably the only she probably doesn't get to leave. Well, it's fictional, but I doubt she got to leave the house very much. So correct. I don't really I had a I don't really have a good question for this section.
JordanYeah, this is pretty straightforward. There's not a lot of.
DariusYou know, it's listen, you know, Kids are often explaining things without knowing that they're explaining it. And so, listen to them. Heading into Act 3 with the KKK comeuppance, creative title, a racist former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard running for state governor sets up his campaign headquarters inside an antebellum plantation mansion once inhabited by murdered slaves. He ignores local folklore about vengeful spirits trapped aside decorative dolls, leading the tiny wooden dolls to come alive and rip him to pieces in a bloody, agonizing massacre. This was loosely, not even loosely, is basically based on David Duke, literally a former KKK member who ran for government of Louisiana and was paralyzed. I just wanted to note that of like Bush 41, so he ran in 1991 and Bush 41 Herbert Walker Bush like came out like the sitting Republican governor or state president of the United States came out against him and said, you know, this is not, you know, Republicanism. So different Republican Party than today.
JordanYeah, very different. There are no good Republicans today.
DariusWhat you got for this one, this story?
JordanI thought it was kind of spot on. in terms of the way things have aged changed nowadays, where it was a controversy that a racist politician was like residing on a plantation. And now like celebrities just get married on plant white celebrities get married on plantations.
DariusI, you know, I think they did that back then too.
JordanI mean, well, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, for sure.
DariusIt's just so insane.
JordanYou would never say you can't.
DariusReally discuss it in the micro level, right? you have to expand out because you see it often in racist hiring practices. And the owner of the business will go, well, just find me the person and I'll tell you why we didn't hire them. And it's like, if you look at any individual hiring decision, you can come up with a reason it's not racist why you didn't hire a black guy. Because that's easy. There's reason or that reason. But if you have to jump back and go, okay, but in 10 years, you've never hired once. Something's going on here. Yes, correct.
JordanLike how have the Dallas Cowboys never had a black head coach? Like, you know what I mean?
DariusIt's just like, yes, if you look at every, it's almost like a card trick when they try to make you think about it at very, very narrow ways. Correct.
JordanIt's like, because they're so good at it. You'll be like, damn, you know what? And you're like, wait, hold the **** **.
DariusIt's just like, yes, if you pull up the rap sheets of every single person in Angola, I would be like, that person belongs to prison, that person belongs to prison, that person belongs to prison. But you scan it back out and you're like, Okay, but it's built on a plantation and the vast majority of its occupants are black.
JordanYeah, that's not.
DariusSomething's going on here. You know, you have to do it that way. So I didn't really, I thought the story was kind of wack. All the four was my least favorite. There's just no complexity to it. Like they literally just run that black guy and kill him. Yeah. So I have a cool question to end it, but what you got for act three or story three?
JordanStory 3. So I did like that. The one thing to the creepy, the obviously the red flag was him being living on the plantation. The other part was him having to leave the essentially a deer's head on the wall, which is the painting of the black slaves that were, you know, killed and slaughtered. I did like that he tried to, he kept trying to use the flag to kill them. He kept using the flag to try to stab the painting. He kept trying to use the flag to smother them, you know, which that's what I always, you know, There's the dichotomy between our views, white people's views on patriotism and black people's views on patriotism. By and large, a lot, I hear, I'll say, not all, but I hear a lot of white people say, like, if you don't like to hear, leave, go back to Africa. That's what they're trying to say, right? Whereas, you know, you love your wife. So because you love your wife, you tell her, hey, this behavior that you're doing, you're better that you can correct that. for the sake of our relationship. And a wife would tell her husband the same thing. it's like Max Hellman said, he said, it's not, it shouldn't be America, love it or leave it. should be America, love it, so change it. And I think that's how black people feel about this country. And I think that people use the flag to try to smother us in a way, you know, like, oh, no, you took a knee, that's disrespectful. So you're destroying our unity when they really just make peace and quiet, or quiet for them, rather. So yeah, I love the symbolism there with what they did with the flag.
DariusThat was pretty dope. Yeah, he's just in the other three, four stories, there's just like at least one complex character, a little bit lost here and there.
JordanYeah.
DariusHe's just like a cartoonist racist.
JordanIt's just a lot of tropes. Yeah.
DariusHe's like, he walks out and he's like, Because he's talking to his advisor, black advisor, and he calls people spooks. And then he walks out and he's like, at least I had to deal with spooky journalists like you. Yeah, spooky. Right. Stupid.
JordanYeah, it makes me think of there's that this TikTok went viral. And it's something like, young white men's sense of humor is just like racism. Where it's like, and there's this TikTok and this guy was like, all the white boys you went to high school with and it was like them being like, that's what this particular story felt like. It just felt like him wanting to tell them how badly he viewed them as nothing. When in real life, a lot of them do, you know, are very blatant, but for the most part, You'd be hard pressed to hear them say it to a black person. You know what I mean?
DariusNo, I hear you. It makes sense. This is rural Louisiana in the 90s though. So yeah, maybe he wasn't right.
JordanIt's Louisiana. I can't forget what state it was in. That's right. You're right. You're right. I'm tripping.
DariusThey didn't say the state, but it's based on David Duke, who was in Louisiana. But I got a question, man. So yeah, this retribution story is like, it's like supernatural, right? It is not atypical to have some supernatural, like one of my interesting ones is I read Wright Thompson's book about the Emmett Till murders and Emmett Till
