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Love Jones (1997)

Jordan's Rating

★★★½☆
3.5/5

Darius's Rating

★★★★☆
4/5

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Movie / Episode Basics

Summary: Romantic drama about poetry, timing, vulnerability, and whether love is real or just a thing.

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Episode Highlights

Best Question: Was Darius who Nina wanted, or who was there when she was tired?

Jordan Insight: Nina loved how Darius made her feel more than she loved him.

Darius Insight: Everyone is pretending to like jazz.

Major Themes

  • Romance
  • art
  • timing

Full Episode Transcript

Jordan: Hey everybody, welcome to the Out the Trunk Pod with Jordan and Darius. I'm Jordan. You can find me on all socials at JordanBWriting.

Darius: And I'm Darius. That's Deez. I love the area on all socials.

Jordan: And this is our movie review segment. Today we're going to be reviewing Love Jones, came out in 1997, starring Lorraine Tate, Nia Long, Isaiah Washington, Lisa Nicole Carson, Bill Bellamy, and Bernadette Speaks. Love Jones is about Darius Love Hall, not of out the trunk pod fame. Smooth.

Darius: My namesake.

Jordan: A smooth talking poet meets Nina Mosley, a gifted photographer in the Chicago Jazz Club. They bond over shared passions, but they're what? Oh, fledgling romance is quickly tested by past relationships and internal doubts. The 2 navigate the is it love or just a thing dilemma in the city. So I'll toss it to you for act one.

Darius: Act one, the blues of beginning. Darius and Nina meet at a poetry reading where he performs his brother to the night. Their instant connection leads to a rainy first date that challenges their cool, detached exterior. Off the rip. I feel like everyone is just pretending to like jazz music. Like is this like in this movie or in life music with no lyrics. Who's still doing this? Who is like, who is like, hey man, put on that, put on that latest jazz album. Do you even know that? I feel like jazz, I look at jazz like I look at like ventriloquist dummies. It's like, Before we actually had actually entertaining things to entertain us, we like pretended this was good. It was like, I don't see his mouth moving. It's funny. Ha ha, the doll is talking. It's like, no, like now we have TV, so we don't have to pretend that anymore. Now we have songs with lyrics. We don't have to pretend to like jazz anymore. That's my point.

Jordan: As a band kid, jazz is cool. I'm more of a blues guy myself. So if you're gonna ask, like, I'd rather listen to blues than jazz. I feel like jazz is for people who have a lot of time on their hands. You know what I mean? Like when I'm in the hustle and bustle of my day, I can't just bump out right. I can't just like I'm working and **** and I'm like, you know, peak like performance. I can't just like vibe out to like the sax. You know what I'm saying? So it's not great lifestyle music depending on your lifestyle.

Darius: A jazz hour will be like 60 minutes. I'm like, you listen to an hour of music with no lyrics. I don't believe you. I feel like this is added to the list. Sushi, jazz music. It's just things that opportunity to like.

Jordan: Nah, chill out on sushi. I love sushi. I **** with sushi.

Darius: No, I think we're all, it's a game of telephone. We're all just pretending to like sushi.

Jordan: Nah, I love sushi. That's not an act for me.

Darius: I just don't, every time I've had sushi, I've been like, okay, it's fine. Like if we're out with a group of people and they wanna go get some sushi, I'm not gonna, that's fine. I can go roll with it. But like I've never on my own accord be like, damn, I'm gonna go get some, I'm really craving some sushi. Never.

Jordan: Really? I love sushi. I can eat that every day.

Darius: All right, man, what you got for act one?

Jordan: I love this movie. One of the things I love most about this movie is the cinematography. It just really, it shows like the reality just of like everyday life and of black people and also just the beauty of the city of Chicago. Like there are so many scenes in this movie where it literally just looks like a beautiful photo that you would have framed like in your dining room somewhere, you know? Sexy funny because I was talking about this yesterday, the other day with a friend who's thinking about getting into photography and I was saying, one thing that may help with that is watching movies because you'll see it's looking for photography in a way. It's just obviously motion picture and you can see how the shots are set up, shot composition, what's in the background, what is the director wanting you to focus on, things of that nature. So this movie is a perfect example of that. Also want to say that the opening poem that that guy's performing at the first open mic meeting that they go to, it always makes you think of that Kendrick poem from Butterfly where he's like, **** **** ain't free.

Darius: I forgot. Man, I haven't, I haven't spent a butterfly in a while.

Jordan: **** **** ain't free.

Darius: That's pretty good.

Jordan: That's the first thing I thought of, yo.

Darius: That was a great album. Random question. Did he perform any of the songs from that album on the tour?

Jordan: From Pimp Butterfly.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: Let me think. Let me go to...

Darius: Did he perform all right? I know he performed all right.

Jordan: Yeah, he did all right. Yeah, he did all right.

Darius: So he did. He did.

Jordan: No, and he did King Kunta. He did. Oh, yeah.

Darius: Okay, cool. All right. Random aside. But what else you got for act one?

Jordan: One thing I love about 90s movies, and I don't know if it's just nostalgia, you know, because you think that **** is better when you grew up, when you watch the growing up, but just like movies with people who look like real people.

Darius: Yes.

Jordan: Like everyone looks unique. It's not, they don't all look like the ******* bold filter from TikTok or the insert filter from.

Darius: They didn't all go to Miami, both men and women.

Jordan: Yes, correct. Everybody looks different. Everybody looks, you know, they're all beautiful people, but they all look very different. You know, And I love that it's a movie with black people who don't, it's not, oh, we didn't find a bunch of Eurocentric looking black people or ethnically ambiguous looking black people or, you know, a bunch of sandpaper, you know what I'm saying? A bunch of Zendaya look alikes. She's beautiful, but you know, get my point. You know, so yeah, I just wanted to point that out.

Darius: We need some sort of like marker for when you veered into too woke. You know how the Fat Joe Jadakiss podcast has the flag? I we do that. George is being a little too like ethnically ambiguous black people.

Jordan: You know what I'm saying? Like, no, she's not ethnically. She's clearly black. I'm saying like, **** I don't know. I had somebody on to my time. I'll think of it later.

Darius: I think Halle Jerry is a good one.

Jordan: No, she looks black.

Darius: All right. I don't know. I you lost me.

Jordan: So I maybe like Zoby Kravitz or somebody like that.

Darius: Fair enough. All right. Getting an address from a woman's checkbook and showing up at her home. Ill advised. Don't do that.

Jordan: Yes. Don't ever, ever do that. I don't care how well y'all hit it off at the open mic night.

Darius: You know, also, you know, And this might be my own sensibilities. Off the rip, the overly ***** poem. It's a bizarre.

Jordan: Yeah, it was a crazy shot to shoot. That actually was a crazy shot to shoot.

Darius: It worked, but this is a movie. Something else I'm like, man, this is. Yeah. Y'all have it. You ain't, you just met this one. Like, you only know her name.

Jordan: You only know her name.

Darius: You know, you haven't shared an appetizer yet, and you just pulling up ***** poems off her.

Jordan: That's a bold strategy. Cotton, see how that works out for him. You know, he definitely, like, it's, you know, a rom-com or rom-dram, whatever. So, you know, you're supposed to like the couple and all that, which we do. But the **** he did was There's like the romantic and then there's stalking.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: And he crossed that line very well in this movie.

Darius: I don't even, I guess. Euro stepped over that line. That line. No, I thought I loved, it's just something about 90s movies. It might be this, it'd be every generation feels this way, but it just looks like the best time to be alive. I was alive in the 90s as a child. I wasn't outside. Being outside in the 90s just looks like the best time to be outside.

Jordan: So much fun.

Darius: The music was, I think the 90s had some of the best music.

Jordan: Yep.

Darius: Like you say, everyone looked normal. Everyone could just be chill. It wasn't, everything wasn't for the gram. And I know about the sound old. People did take pictures and everything. People did. But it did. It did. It just looks like a better time to be outside.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: I just I always get nostalgic when I watch these 90s movies because I just I wish I was an adult for it, you know?

Jordan: No, me too. I wish I was at least like. I wish I could have at least been a teenager in the 90s. I feel like that even would have been like peak, you know, it just feel like everybody like people were more. I don't know, aware. They were more social.

Darius: More social, less socially awkward, which is the same thing. But yeah, just you went outside looking for adventure in a way people just don't anymore. You know, the way they're out, they're walking in the rain. And he just like, you want to go check out some reggae spot. And yeah, it's on the other side of town. And like, They just go **** it, and what would it like if we wanted to go hear some live music on a Wednesday night, where would we even go here? And the people know we live in Raleigh. I wouldn't even know where to go. Right. Like just.

Jordan: Yeah, no, I yeah, I don't know where to go. Actually, I don't think.

Darius: The cities were just more alive. They were more serendipitous. Yeah, people were just more adventurous. Like you. You didn't leave your house with an itinerary. You just let the day happen to you.

Jordan: Right. And I feel like another thing too is that I've noticed is like, they, everybody in the movie that didn't know each other, they became friends throughout the course of the movie.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: And like that doesn't really happen in life anymore. If you don't have your set friends by age 22, like, or 23, you're gonna have a hard time making friends. Like I know that, like I've talked to people, adults, you know, in their 20s and **** about this, where they're all like, I don't know. how to make friends as an adult because there's nowhere to go. Like, you know what I mean? Everywhere you go, you go supposed to go with your friends. But if you're supposed to go with friends and you don't have, a lot of friends, like, can you go or people are socially awkward now, so they don't want to go without their friends. So they're not meeting people, even though that's what they want to do the most, you know?

Darius: I will say that people, have to be a party to your own rescue. You know, you're not going to make friends watching Netflix every weekend. You have to, you have to. Take some risks. Yes, it might be awkward to be the only person there without a group, but how else are you going to join a group if you don't show up? True. Yeah, that's true. You have to, the worst thing in the world, you know, like what's the worst thing that's going to happen? You're just going to go there and it's going to be, feel left out and you're going to go home. Okay, fine. But the upside is you might need some people and, you know, you have to be, you have to take some risks. And I feel like people have lost that risk-taking feeling. everything is safety first, safety this, and that's important, but a life without risk is a dull one. So, we'll take a quick little jab at you right quick. So, as an ex-poet, what do you miss about the stage? When you miss most crazy? At some point, you're just an ex-poet.

Jordan: Ex-performer. No, I'm actually planning on getting back on stage this month.

Darius: I'm just going to keep bringing it up.

Jordan: I know, and I appreciate it. You do need friends like that to push you and stuff, you know, as a compliment, because that means you don't think I suck pause. Correct. So, you know, major pause.

Darius: No, man, when you get on stage, man.

Jordan: I got some pieces in mind. I got one piece. I may be maybe ready to perform. I don't know yet. So I may go tomorrow. I may wait and save it for next week. I'm not sure yet. But yeah, what I miss most about the stage is the uncertainty.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: Because you go up there and you don't know if your piece is good. You don't know if your piece is going to connect with people, if it's relatable, if you sound crazy when you're saying it, if you overshared, if you think you look stupid or, you know, whatever. That's the only thing I miss because you go up there and it's you. Like writing is kind of the most, probably the most lonely of all the creative endeavors, I'd say, because no one's there when you're doing it. And even if people are there when you're doing it, no one's, I'm the only person in my head, you know what I'm saying? I'm the only person that have had my experiences. So you have this thing where you think it's just you and you don't really know until you start speaking. And even like the first couple of lines, no one wants, there's this weird thing where like, There's performance anxiety, but I also feel like there's like a listening anxiety as an audience member where no one really wants to be the first one to say they connect with whatever you're saying, depending on how vulnerable it is. So like, it's almost like the first couple of months, people kind of wait and see like, well, I look crazy if I were a snap or if I relate to this, you know? And then once a few people start, then it's like, okay, cool. Everybody can acknowledge that they connect with that thing, you know? So much so to the point where there are pieces I performed where It doesn't maybe get a lot of live audience feedback, but that's sometimes how you know you're doing really well because it's so honest that people are uncomfortable. And then they'll come up to you like after the show and like, yo, I really connected with that or I really **** with that or they'll DM you. So I'd say for me, the best part of performance is the uncertainty. close second would be the rush, like the high you get is it's like, I've never done like hard drugs, but I'd imagine it's like, you know, doing cocaine or some **** like that, you know what I'm saying? Or a Valium or something like it's like it's like it's such a like you feel like you're like buzzing and you feel like 8 feet tall when you get off stage and you know you killed it.

Darius: Fair enough. Well, they say poetry and stand up are the only art forms where you can't you have to practice in front of people, you know, you can't If you write a song, you write a rap, you write a song, you can play it in your garage until you get it right. But you'll never know if your joke is funny or if your poem lands until you actually do it in front of people. So you have to practice.

Jordan: Correct.

Darius: You know, you don't get a parachute, you know, so.

Jordan: No, not at all.

Darius: You can do what the rappers do and release a snippet, a leak to see if people like it and pretend the leak never happened if they don't. And even that two fingers touch it, that'll never see you release.

Jordan: And that **** is never coming out. That **** is never just in the light of day. Thank the Lord. And honestly, for me, I feel like the whole snippet release thing, being an artist is scary. So I acknowledge that. But to me, it's just like the height of cowardice. Just drop the ******* song, bro. Put it, put it out. And then you'll get the feedback that you want. can't tell if a song is good if you play 40 seconds of it.

Darius: A little quick snippet. And then, yeah. And also, like you said, it's 40 seconds. Well, hell, these songs nowadays ain't but a minute and a half. But, you know, clip 40 seconds from a lot of songs, it would sound crazy. You have to, you know, a song is a story. It's a journey. You posting on story with 30 seconds of it playing and using the comment section to determine if you're going to release it. That's not artistry. Like you said, that's cowardice.

Jordan: Correct. Yeah. So there was that conversation at the table with the previous main cast of the movie. And they're talking about romance and like whether or not it's dead, what romance means to each of them. Someone's asked you, what does romance mean to you? And do you feel like it's something that once it's dead can be reborn or revived?

Darius: What does romance mean to me? You know, I want I once had a friend. I mean, I still have a still my friend, but he he's a ***** you know. Mary guy all the time, you know, and so he once asked me, like, don't you know, don't you want someone to go do stuff with go out that a lot. And I once told I responded, I said, you know, you have it backwards, you know? I'm ineligible. I'm a handsome guy. I can get a date. Like I can find someone to go to a museum with, to go to a theme park with, to go to the bar with. It's finding someone to do nothing with. That's hard. And so I wouldn't say that romance to me is having fun doing nothing and being in each other's presence without, because again, everyone's fun bar hopping in downtown Glenwood, you know, that's easy.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: But Post it up on a Sunday watching football. You're not getting on my nerves. That's love, baby. Like. So I was. That's what I tried to tell y'all. What did you say?

Jordan: That's what I tried to tell y'all. I made that joke about not dating during football season. Yeah. Cause I don't want to have to make anyone feel ignored when I'm watching football. It's just a joke. I do date during the season, but you get what I'm saying.

Darius: No, I mean, it's true. It's Finding something I don't mind doing. Finding someone I don't mind doing nothing with, I would say is what romance is to me. How about you?

Jordan: To me, romance is kind of a two-part answer, I guess, is making someone feel special on a regular basis, more than just on special occasions. And I'd say to me, The pinnacle of romance is world building. It's like creating and establishing that relationship where it's just the two of you and it's literally like a whole world, not just in your head, but in real life. Like when you're just like, you said, like in the bed on a Sunday or you're just chilling in the living room on the couch, binge watching or trying to figure out what to watch or just sitting and talking. Like some of my favorite moments in relationships were just. sitting up talking late at night for hours with nothing, like no music, no sounds, just us, you know, being together, exchanging thoughts and experiences and stories and laughs and stuff. I think, you know, and talking about like the future and things and it actually being something that you both want as opposed to it's some sort of fantasy one's projecting onto the other where you're just actually able to exist as you as your authentic self. Like I've been in a lot of places where like I where you just knew you couldn't really be your full self, like not even that you weren't acting, but it was, maybe a toned down version, things of that nature. So it's like, you know, you can kind of let the, let the facade down, let, you know, let, all of the, armor away and lay it all to the side and just kind of be with your person.

Darius: I agree. Yeah, it's, When you ever meet a couple and it feels like they speak their own language. That's.

Jordan: When Yes.

Darius: They're locked in. You just like.

Jordan: Absolutely.

Darius: They say words that are only funny to them. Like they're words that you could recognize the word, but it's only for them because there's some context that everyone else is missing. You know, they were walking in a grocery store and they saw it and it was some joke that they had. And, you know, six months later it pops up and they just fall out laughing and no one understands what the **** they're talking about. Yeah. that's it right there. That's that magic. But enough mushy **** Act 2. The rhythm of doubt. As their relationship deepens, the return of Nina's ex-fiance creates a rift. Insecurity surfaces, both Darius and Nina hesitate to admit their true feelings, leading to a frustrating emotional stalemate. Man, when he said, you must be going to see some dude, man, he said. He was ******. If you pause the movie, you could see the steam coming out of his ears.

Jordan: Yes. Actually, if you rewind 10 seconds before you said that, when she says, oh, she remember she lists like 8 things she had to do in New York before she mentioned the dude. And then she's like, yeah, I got to talk to this dude. And he was just like, Like, you could all see him almost go like this *****. Like, yeah, well, he.

Darius: Well, first she said, I got to see a friend. And he knew he knew what that was. He said, Yeah, yeah. So right.

Jordan: First it was about a job. Then was about a friend. Okay.

Darius: And then it was what it was really about. So. Right. What you got for act too bad.

Jordan: Yeah. Yeah, I always. So there's the scene where she before that, where she's talking with her friend and she's like, you should tell him you're gonna go. If he's mad, he cares. If he doesn't just go do your own thing. And I appreciate the friend was like, be honest with him. But I hate that whole thing of like, go test your partner. And if they pass the test and you can be with them thing, you know, like it's first of all, it's the height of manipulation and emotional abuse. And 2, it's like, if you give people a test like that, people are, what else would you call that? Emotional blackmail, fine. It's like if you give, if you put someone in a position where they're forced to either look vulnerable, possibly pathetic, or, you know, hold on to their self-respect, they're going to choose to self-respect. Yeah, for sure. No one's going to be like, oh yeah, and no one's going to be like, oh yeah, I don't want you to leave. Stay with me. But you're in contact with your ex, which means you're already entertaining it. That to me is all the doubt that I need to sever the relationship.

Darius: Like a wise man once said, man, if you want to be chased, go rob a bank because I ain't got it. Like, I'm not.

Jordan: Yeah. What was he supposed to say?

Darius: Yeah. I wouldn't have reacted either. I mean, obviously his feelings are hurt and he communicated that in a way that kept his dignity. But no, I mean, like he said, y'all weren't anything. Y'all were just sleeping together. And he had no right to say that, Yeah, yes and no. I think people get real technical when they know they're doing what they ain't supposed to be doing. We never had to talk. I never said I was your boyfriend. Okay, but yeah, we all grow here. You know, there's a reason why she said Fred last. It's because she knew, you know, there's a reason why she approached that real slow. And it's because she knew. what was going on. And so I feel like people love to play. This is not law school. We're not lawyers and you know what was up. So.

Jordan: Cause you know what you was doing was wrong.

Darius: We kind of alluded to it earlier, but man, so many 90s movies rewarded men for not taking no for an answer.

Jordan: It did, it did. This whole movie is just coercion.

Darius: Oh man, dude. Popped up at her crib. She's like the first date. She's like, no, you're not coming in. And he's like, I just want to have a cup of coffee, please.

Jordan: Let me just have a cup of coffee.

Darius: Wow, man.

Jordan: He was doing a lot of begging.

Darius: The OG in me wanted to jump through the screen like, go home.

Jordan: Go home, Roger.

Darius: She told you she wants you to leave, bro. Just leave. What is you?

Jordan: Yeah, man, he did a lot of, yeah. If this was happening in 2025, He'd be in that group that girls use to talk about dudes. And it'd be like, don't date this guy.

Darius: He's on my door, Stephanie. He wouldn't go home. Are you kidding?

Jordan: He found my address with check.

Darius: Yeah, it's like.

Jordan: To see me and I didn't want to see him.

Darius: Yeah, it's not a good look that's rewarded, but I mean, movies are fiction and it's. on people's families and parents to raise them to do the appropriate things. So I'm not blaming the movie for inappropriate behavior, but it's not a great message to tell young men that this is an appropriate. to just show. But you took her out. Y'all had a great time listening to reggae music, got a little grind, cool. Got a little good night kiss. She's like, not tonight. You need to leave. The night's over. Get out.

Jordan: Get out of there.

Darius: There's no more questions after that. You need to go home.

Jordan: Yeah, you lived to fight another day.

Darius: It was the first day, man. You made some good progress. Y'all went to two spots.

Jordan: Hell yeah.

Darius: Good little dance. Good night kiss. She let you walk her home. Take that one, man. She didn't.

Jordan: She didn't call the police after you showed it to her house unannounced. Yeah, man, you up.

Darius: Take that one and go and go home, man. There's another thing. You might, you know, just you go take another shot at that one. You good. You're doing well, right? You know, I agree. What else you got for act two, man?

Jordan: I was going to say, yes, going back to the X. So she did that. And by the way, even like so she goes back to the X, they have a fight. and she doesn't get a job in New York. And so she basically ends the engagement that she resumed, I guess, and then just goes back to Chicago and then was mad at him for moving on.

Darius: Yeah. This is where the act two to act three where the writing gets a little. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, what is she mad about? I even

Jordan: Yeah, I didn't get it.

Darius: I've dated some pretty unreasonable women. This is beyond the pale. Like you left me to go be with your fiance and you come back to got attitude because I'm seeing somebody like that is me. That's me. This is not even real. It's hard to believe there's a real person.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Like you. We were cool. We were *******. We were late.

Jordan: I'm trying to think. Right.

Darius: Go ahead.

Jordan: No, I'm trying to think if I can think of anyone who would who would actually be have that audacity. It's you know, that's actually insane, though.

Darius: I mean, it's appeared like psychopathy.

Jordan: Yeah, unwell.

Darius: Listen, man, I don't know if this needs to be said out loud, but if you dump me to go link with your ex-boyfriend in another city, I'm not waiting for it. Like you can't.

Jordan: No.

Darius: Now, if you come back. And we find ourselves in a good place to where we could bring back up a conversation. I don't know, like real life is complicated. Cool. But to expect me to sit by the phone crying while you were away, that's absurd.

Jordan: And wait for you.

Darius: Right.

Jordan: Yeah, that was crazy. And by the way, if it had worked out, you wouldn't have came back. So again, why are you mad?

Darius: Yeah. I mean, he was a rebound. I guess that is a good question. I'll ask three. Act three, we're gonna call finding the harmony. After time apart and self-reflection by one party, the pair must decide if their connection is worth the risk of vulnerability. A chance encounter leads to a final realization about their future together. And I'm gonna wing this here. Did you see the Twitter prompt that was like, Name a movie where the woman is the bad guy and it works out for her. I have a suggestion.

Jordan: Yeah. This movie. Yes.

Darius: People want the obvious Jenna from Good Forrest Gump. But can we offer up Nina from Love Jones? I just don't think she was going to ask you.

Jordan: Is she the villain in the movie? Is she the problem?

Darius: I just don't think that she comes off well.

Jordan: No, not at all. I think if not for Nina, Nina, well, Nia Long's charm, it'd have been a long time ago when people realized she would have, she was quite a succubus, quite frankly. Like she was just like siphoning **** from dudes. Like, you know, your ex came back and you were still not quite over him, which is kind of fine, which is cool. You rebound with this new guy, then you toss him to the side to go back to the ex. You didn't get your job and you didn't want him to have control over you. or provide for you which however you wanted to phrase it you go back to back to Chicago expect this to wait for you you mad that he didn't wait for you because he had motion which you knew when you met him which is why you liked him and then you date his friend and then you're mad at him for not asking you if you ****** his friend What?

Darius: The only thing we're missing is her to reveal that she has AIDS and a son that she's going to leave with him. That's really it. I mean, she's checked all the other boxes.

Jordan: Yeah, and like she was like the whole thing about she, his old, his ex called him at night one time and she thought he was cheating.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: I don't know if he was or not, but I think if he was cheating, he wouldn't have the number on the ******* refrigerator. I'm just guessing.

Darius: Well, I mean, are stupid. So that's not necessarily.

Jordan: Well, are stupid. True.

Darius: That's true. No one they waiting on a girl, girl in a car, text. Oh my God, it happened. Like what you text come through.

Jordan: Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Darius: I can't believe this 10 year old technology bit me in the ***. I do want to take a moment of silence. We did mention this off the top. You mentioned she was Nia Long's charm. She was so fine in this movie.

Jordan: Dude. Yes.

Darius: Oh my God. I was just like. It takes a lot for me to be starstruck. She is gorgeous in this movie, man. Just out of this world. Anyways, I just, we can't go a whole pot without mentioning that.

Jordan: No, you're right. There's a reason Harper cheated.

Darius: Oh my goodness. I just. Yeah, there's a couple scenes. Yeah, no, that shot where she. It was like, man, this is cinema.

Jordan: No, this is cinema. Martin Corsese.

Darius: No, there's a scene where she's, it's raining

Jordan: and she's like sitting by the window in like a nightgown or whatever. Like, that's about as beautiful as any woman's ever looked on cinema. Yeah, man. she had, but she had a lot of ******* nerve in this movie. Like that **** was outrageous. First of all, you date, you come back and you date his friend and then you're like, you're playing the victim because he took you to a party with his friends. Where the **** did you think y'all were going? You thought he was going to have you with strangers that you didn't know. Come on, man.

Darius: Right. Y'all link. The first link y'all had was at everyone's house. This is what they do. Right. The 90s. back to, nostalgia. People didn't have to have a whole lot of bread to kick it in the 90s because just kicked it. They, we prepay, we want you play cards, you have to go out. There wasn't no sections and ****. You could just kick it, bring a bottle, bring a deck of cards and we might kick it all night. So that's what they did because they're

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