Love & Basketball (2000)

Jordan: Hey everybody, welcome to the Out of the Trunk Pod with Jordan and Darius. My name is Jordan. You can find me on all socials at Jordy B Writing.

Darius: And I'm Darius. That's Steve's I love the area on all socials.

Jordan: This is our movie review segment. Today we're going to be reviewing Love and Basketball. The movie came out in 2000 starring the lovely Sanaa Lathan, Omar Epps, Alfrey Woodard, Dennis Haysberg, Regina Hall, Gabrielle Union, and Harry Lennox. Love and Basketball is about next-door neighbors, Quincy McCall and Monica Wright, who grew up sharing a burning passion for basketball. Over the years, their childhood friendship evolves into a complex romance while chasing professional dreams. Navigating personal setbacks and shifting priorities, they must eventually decide if their love for the game matches their love for each other. So I'm gonna toss it to you for Act 1.

Darius: Act one, the first quarter, young Monica and Quincy meet his children in Los Angeles, bonding over their shared athletic talent. As they enter high school, their competitive nature sparks a deep friendship and a romantic tension. I just want to say off the bat, and I can say this because we're the same age, so I was her age when the show was filmed. Kyla Pratt was a young Darius, one of young Darius's first crushes. Not particularly in this role, but in 101.

Jordan: Yes. Yes, Lord.

Darius: And for the viewer or listener out there, that's not weird. She, I just looked it up on my phone. She's 39, I'm 37. So I was literally her age when I thought.

Jordan: Yeah, right.

Darius: She was a minor at the time, but so was I. It's not like we were 40.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: So I mean, people, people like, yeah. So like, I always say like, this turtle was one of my first crushes and they'll be like, she was a teenager. And I was like, I think I was 4. Right. But shout out Kyla Pratt, man. I feel like she gets under-discussed in the 90s baddies discourse.

Jordan: Yes, absolutely. She gets slept on. It would be an early 2000s. This movie has like 70% of my 90s crushes, like literally. I don't think all the people are missing is like, is Reagan Gomez, Maya Campbell, and Topanga, I think.

Darius: I mean, we got, we got a Tyler, Tyler Perry, Tyler Banks, Tyler Banks. Something you wanna tell us? Cameo, we got Gabrielle Union was in this one.

Jordan: Yeah, Gabrielle Union, Regina Hall.

Darius: Listen, man, Quincy McCall's running through him.

Jordan: Yeah, man.

Darius: In one movie, he got Sanaa Lathan, Gabrielle Union, and Tyler Banks.

Jordan: Yeah, and then it was Mia from Best Man was the side piece.

Darius: I don't remember that, but go for it.

Jordan: The girl he, the girl that when she went to his apartment.

Darius: Oh yeah, that was her. That's a, that ain't the same tier, but she's cool.

Jordan: Well, fair.

Darius: There are levels to this.

Jordan: Also, Monica's teammates were fine as **** too.

Darius: Yeah, Aimless faceless teammates.

Jordan: Yes. I love this movie started out with one of my favorite songs of all time, Love and Happiness.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: That movie fits with any soundtrack, any movie ever. It's just that movie. The song is just so goaded. It's a little good movie. I just wanted to shout that out.

Darius: Al Green's superpowers. He just made being in love sound so easy.

Jordan: He did.

Darius: He did.

Jordan: He really, really did.

Darius: He really did. Sorry for interrupting you. What'd you say?

Jordan: No, that's a fact. Yeah, actually I was thinking about that this week. I've listened to a lot of R&B lately and I think that's the problem is R&B like We have very few R&B singers who sing about people that they like.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: Like it's always like, they ain't **** this girl ain't **** this guy ain't **** **** you. And it's like, okay, well, it's clearly they gave you some sort of positive experience, which is why you missed them. Can we talk about that a little bit?

Darius: Nah, man. I got an Al Green playlist that he's just one, truly one of 1 voices. Just yeah, nothing like it. Not you've never heard anything like it and to Just he just the songwriting was just the pen was crazy And I don't know if you wrote all these songs back then it was much more collaborative, but he was One-on-one when it came to the tunes man And shout out to Dennis Haysberg Quincy's father Can't should never be in a man's book. I co-signed it Yeah, **** that.

Jordan: I like that. That's something I want to teach my kids for sure I also love that he was like he was hard on him and he, you know, you know, be a man and all that stuff. But he also he didn't like what he also told him that he loved him on a regular basis and hugged him and **** which I think is equally as important. I feel like in a lot of movies and shows, black dads, they don't always show that part of black fatherhood. So I love that this movie does that.

Darius: You know, that's part I think that's big part of Uncle Phil's popularity is.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Now, the writers definitely softened him after the first season. That was actually a note that they got back. You know, it was like his behavior to will it so off putting. And so they softened the writer, softened him up quite a bit by the end. Yeah. I mean, he was basically a surrogate father. What else you got for act one, man?

Jordan: So I forgot that his dad played for the Clippers, not the Lakers. But as when I was watching me, I was like, I've before, like Blake Griffin, I'd never seen anyone in real life ever wear a Clippers jersey out in public.

Darius: The only notable Clipper I could think of was Elton Brand before Blake Griffin.

Jordan: Yeah, yeah, I think so. That's it. I mean, did.

Darius: Yeah, this is Elton Brand. We get into some like Corey McGetti and Stromile Swift, but like those players aren't notable. Just Elton Brand.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Just want to say this is this movie. I saw the scene and I was like, this is where people got it from. The scene when they first when they first have sex. This is why people think Maxwell's This Woman's Work is a love song, because it was playing during the scene. I need the people to understand that song is about a miscarriage. It's not romantic. Stop playing it at your weddings. Stop posting it in the background of your Valentine's Day post. Listen to the lyrics of the song. It is not in any way, shape or form romantic. It's literally about him struggling with this life, very complicated pregnancy and individual miscarriage. And I found the source of this epidemic and it's this damn scene where they played it in a very romantic way. and it's just not a romantic song. I need people to listen to the lyrics of the song that you like.

Jordan: Correct. And the reason people think it's romantic when obviously Maxwell's voice is like God level. And two, it's the harp. That harp makes you think it's like a ******* lovely song. I mean, it's a lovely song, but a song about a loving experience. It's not romantic. It's not. Yeah, right. Romantic. Sorry, portraits of words. Yeah, romantic. So at this point, I want to make up highlight it further in Act 3, but I love that this movie shows the The struggle of gender roles at the time, like the fact that, her mom was from her mom was from the south, her mom was from Atlanta. So she's kind of more of a southern belle. And then her sister obviously kind of followed in that same same aesthetic, whereas Monica's character or Monica was, you know, tomboy loved ball, you know, all that. And that was kind of the push and pull between her and her mom because they just couldn't see each other. They couldn't hear each other, you know. And I mean, that's a big theme of the movie, both genders really in terms of struggling with their identity and how to best represent that while also maintaining their authentic self. But I just love that this movie developed characters that had their own individual lives and identities. And of course, the love story is a central, you know, glue to hold it all together. But it also focuses on their families and kind of shows why they are the way that they are in a way that's not cheap or manufactured?

Darius: I agree. I think I think it just kind of showed a good balance of the positive qualities a father brings to a relationship or to a parenting and the positive qualities of mother brings the parenting because the dad was just a good contrast with the mom, you know, He knew she would grow out of it for the most part. And he just kind of let her be free. And the mom wanted to be a girl. But like some of that was actually what she needed to hear. And it was just a good little balance of the the the different perspectives and attributes fathers can bring to parenting and mothers can bring to parenting, you know?

Jordan: So, yeah.

Darius: Anything else for Aqua?

Jordan: Yes, already already birthed through my nineties crush point. But we cannot understate the talent and beauty that is in this movie. Got to, you know, young Gabrielle Union. I feel like up until like 2003, all she ever played was like mean vixens in movies.

Darius: Because she's not a great actress. I'm sorry. She's very, very, very attractive woman, but she just can't act. And so point me to the movie where she was like, wow, this is cinema. I'll go watch it tonight or tomorrow, but I haven't heard. She can't act. She was so bad in those things like a man movies just.

Jordan: To be fair, I think everyone was bad in the second one.

Darius: Well, yeah, fair. All right, act two, the halfway point. Now at USC, both athletes face the pressures of collegiate sports and personal turmoil. Their relationship is tested by family secrets and the different paths their professional careers begin to take. You know how I feel about whiny *** grown men. I was not just was not feeling Quincy's despondent behavior during this act. So I will expand upon that later. But what do you got for act 2?

Jordan: So my first note for act 2 is, you know why this movie had like a relatively small budget is because there's a scene where they're working out the other girls college team and they're benching with no rack. That's a really good way to hurt yourself.

Darius: Yeah. Which is crazy because I thought this movie had a run. It doesn't feel like a cult classic. I thought, I mean, I was young. No, not at all. I remember it being in theaters and being popular.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Oh. What else you got, Frank, too?

Jordan: One of my favorite scenes in the movie is when they're in basketball practice. And she rips old girl and pulls up for three in the three in transition and holds the goose. And then the coach is like, I love that. Let me see you do that again. Do it for the whole practice. I mean, that's my favorite scenes.

Darius: As a freshman, you shouldn't be doing that. You should be. Yeah, that was that wasn't a great look as a freshman. So she was a little, you know, she needed, she needed some humbling. Yeah, especially, you know, On the like women's basketball is so much more competitive than men's basketball because there's just so many there's just so there's so much less opportunity, and so right No girls, they, that's those are those are tough. That's tough. And yeah, she was only there because someone else had to leave Some I guess another girl got pregnant and.

Jordan: Yeah the girl got pregnant Tanya Randall got pregnant.

Darius: Which I don't even think is legal anymore to kick someone off the team for getting pregnant, but This is 2000. And it was just, Monica came in a little, little, little, little hot-headed and she got humbled a bit and it worked out for her because she kept her head down and she took advantage of the opportunity when it came to her.

Jordan: So yeah, and I think a lot of people don't realize is like this movie just came out in 2000, but it's set during college in like 88. So at that point, talking about the competitiveness of women's basketball, WBA hadn't been created yet. So literally it was like, you're going to hoop, you're going to go to college and then you're going to go overseas.

Darius: Yeah. And the overseas spots aren't plentiful, you know, is like, right. And, you know, so yeah, this is it. You have to look at it if you're watching this movie like this is the NBA to them. You know, that's this is the highest level of the highest level. And. when they go play overseas, that's a step down in competition than USC. it is USC, man. That's where Cheryl Miller went. You know, this is serious business, you know, so hell yeah. Was she wrong for leaving him on the night that she had curfew?

Jordan: I don't think she was wrong, but I get why he was mad. Like that's one of the situations to me where like no one was in the wrong. It just was this it just was what it was like she had she had to make curfew because she was she had to hoop she's there for college she's like that she's on scholarship I'm assuming that's probably how she's paying for school you can't miss you can't miss no games and like you know what I'm saying you're a freshman already you're already on a short leash remember there's no WNBA so you don't know like this really is it for all you know you got to you got to you got to go to bed and I get why he like he could have I'm assuming he could have went into her dorm I'm gonna guess So, she wasn't wrong.

Darius: I found his behavior irredeemable. First of all, the pouting, the whining. And then it's like, if any, like she said, if anybody should have understood, it should have been him.

Jordan: And then- Correct.

Darius: I just, I found it so off-putting and irredeemable. He's just pouting like a big *** baby. You're a grown man. I get that you're going through some personal turmoil, but men are supposed to hold it down. Men aren't supposed to cry and pout and ***** and moan. And yeah, I just found it disgusting. Then he's ******* up in basketball because I guess he's stressed or.

Jordan: Yeah, exactly.

Darius: Whichever one of these buzzwords they have. And I just, I'm glad that she left him there. took care of her **** and went and sought what she needed to see. And it worked out for her. And I'm glad it didn't work out for him. There. Men should not be rewarded for pouting.

Jordan: That's valid. That's valid. And also like I wrote this down, but I don't think first of all, if you're not married, you should never put your goals over your, pick your partner over your goals. I also think if you're under 30, you should never put your partner over your goals. I think that's just wildly stupid and irresponsible personally. So for the listeners out there, do not move for the partner. Do not pass up that job opportunity for your partner if you're under 30. That's just silliness.

Darius: Under 30 is a little late in life. That's a little millennial Peter Panish, but definitely not in college and definitely not before you're married.

Jordan: No, I'm saying if you have like us like actual opportunities, you know what I'm saying? Like you have a job offer. Take care. You know what I'm saying?

Darius: And also, like I said, if you're not married, well, yeah, you should be married at that point. You know, if you're moving together, you should be married. So, yeah, no, certainly not in college. You know, the worst, like the boy meets world where Topanga turned down Yale for him. He turned out Yale to be with your high school boyfriend. High school sweetheart.

Jordan: Yeah, that was ******* nuts.

Darius: Yeah, bad message to say.

Jordan: He definitely was an anchor for her. Looking back at it, like as an adult, as a kid, you're like, oh wow, that's so romantic. And as an adult, you're like, she ruined her life basically for him.

Darius: Yale is one of the most prestigious universities in the world, not just the country, the world.

Jordan: Yeah, the world.

Darius: To turn that down for ******* your neighborhood high school boyfriend.

Jordan: Corey Matthews.

Darius: Pure insanity.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: You got anything else right too?

Jordan: Yes. I mean, so there's the affair, obviously, then he starts to crash out. He starts spiraling. And then they have their breakup. Did you think that? I don't know where this. Like he he do you think she was being immature by not wanting to be friends with him after the breakup?

Darius: No. Friends, no. I'm not opposed to staying close with some with an ex, but like immediately afterwards, especially when you broke up with me on some ****. Right. You know, because you basically asked me to put my lifelong dream to play high level basketball. Over you to listen to you cry about your family troubles.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: That's why you broke up with me. No, I don't. No, absolutely not. I have no problem with not being friends with him anymore. He was he was an unrepentant jerk in Act 2. I just not a fan of Quincy McCall. So I guess he was a junior, I think, because his dad was. I don't know. But anyways, I was not a fan's name was. Dennis Hayesburg was his dad's name.

Jordan: Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it's just it's interesting to me how naive he was like you thought your dad, the ex NBA player, rich in Los Angeles, was being faithful to your mom. And he was a he was a scout, but he was taking meetings at 1 a.m. Where the **** do they hoop at 1 a.m.?

Darius: Nowhere. Nowhere. Thrown back because your parents are supposed to be your superheroes. First time you realize that they're human is a bit jarring.

Jordan: Jarring.

Darius: The way he just crashed out. And I mean, he act like he was cheated on. It is, wow, man. Yeah. Tighten up. Like you.

Jordan: Yeah, I did like this movie. A big tenant of this movie is that your parents are people too. And I love that they show that because again, We don't really get that in black movies, I feel like. So I love that they kind of showed that like his father was a good father. He just wasn't a good husband. And I just wasn't a good. He wasn't a good husband, but.

Darius: Well, I guess they got divorced, so.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: I was going to ask something controversial, but I don't feel like I don't feel like it.

Jordan: Okay.

Darius: An affair is not in and of itself a permanent stamp of bad spouse. But I've said this before that I just I think real life is complicated. And it's not they're not mutually exclusive. Like you can be a good husband that had an affair. That doesn't mean that all husbands who have affairs are good husbands, but are good husbands.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: Yeah. Like Life is life and life is complicated. So it's not automatically a rubber stamp of bad partner. You know, people people recover. Like I've said on the pod the other day, the people who recover from affairs, you never hear from, you know, so right?

Jordan: They keep that.

Darius: They're not the ones ******** about it on Facebook. You know, the reason why they work through it is because they didn't they invited you out of their business, right? So Correct. Yeah. It's got to be careful with this.

Jordan: He did bring up. Yeah, he did bring up a good point where he kind of he brought up the fact that like, you know, they didn't plan to have Quincy. They didn't plan to get married. It just happened that she got pregnant when she was young. So he married her. Doesn't mean he didn't love her, but that does matter. You know, yeah, like life is life. Life is hard. Life is complicated. There's no, you know, all the **** is difficult. We're all like, There's no roadmap to this ****. But yeah, getting caught with the PI is crazy.

Darius: The PI, man, they was making out in the hotel lobby. You know, I. Yeah, this surveillance day you might. This is 2000, but now with ring cameras and cell phone cameras and this, that you might just want to be James.

Jordan: Bond to get away with it. Yeah, you might just want to stay faithful people out there. There's no way to hide it. I don't know how you do hide it, honestly. This day and age you got to be James Bond to get away with that ****.

Darius: Pretty much, man. You got anything else for act two?

Jordan: No, that's all I got for act two.

Darius: All right, we are going to go into act three, the final buzzer. Years later, after playing internationally and facing injuries, Quincy and Monica reconnect. One final game of 101 determines the future of their relationship and their shared history on the court. This movie reminded me that Tearing your ACL used to be like a catastrophic thing.

Jordan: Yeah, it was a death sentence.

Darius: Yeah, I just, you know, we've gotten so used to a year off back as good as new, but yeah, like the way, I mean, The way it felt like he died, his career ended, basically. And so it was just, it was a nice little, oh, this is, it was the first time the movie felt a little dated. So yeah. What you got for act three, man.

Jordan: Yeah, I thought the same thing. For act three, I saw, we'll talk about the conversation she has with her mom in the kitchen. The second one, after she told, before she, after she told her that she was better. better than the girl that he was going to marry. I love the fact that first of all, they finally aired their **** out because, they both were looking down at each other. I just think that the mom didn't want to admit that she was looking down at her. So she was able to say like, you look down at me because I'm a housewife. I did love that she kind of broke down like my dream was being home so I could spend time with y'all so I could be there for the **** that matters. I could get you ready for prom and your big dance and give you my mother's pearls, you know, a family heirloom. aside from the fact that, obviously I could have had a career, but I chose family life over, she did basically what he wanted, Quincy wanted her to do in college. And then of course, it was crazy though, like not going to your child's games. I don't, that's insane to me. But she did point out that she kind of realized, she thought that she never wanted her there, which is why she didn't go. And one of my theories on parenthood is that like one parent's always like there in terms of like physically present. but the other parent is the one that the child really needs more. And they often rarely never make that connection. And that's why I feel like every kid, a lot of kids for the most part have one parent where they're like, this parent understands me, this parent gets me, but I really want this parent to see me. And I feel like they can't see me. And I feel like this movie did a great job of showing that.

Darius: Yeah, it's fine to feel that way as a child. It is wild disrespectful to come at your mom like that.

Jordan: No, she was out of pocket.

Darius: I was wondering why I'm like, what did she do to you? Like, what? Like, why are you? I just, I don't even know where that came from. I was like, all right, so first of all, you actually, okay. The movie wanted to make her out to be, Coella Deville about the basketball. And she was just like, hey, let's do your hair. Hey, how about you wear a shirt? Like she played all through high school, all through college. I'm sure ************* parents paid for it. What do you, what do you, what do you, how do you just, why do you ask people? What are you crying about? Like you came at your mom like that because she was a stay-at-home mom. All she ever did was make sure that you were straight. And You followed your dreams all the way to Europe. It was ******* ******** about it.

Jordan: You got all the support you needed.

Darius: You reached the highest level of basketball and you're mad that she didn't she didn't clap hard enough in the 8th grade. Give me a ******* break. These people are ridiculous. Pops got you a job at the bank. You in the suburbs. You living next to professional basketball players. You were a great.

Jordan: Yeah, let's keep it a stack. That was not the separate. Those were mansions.

Darius: Yeah, had a pool in the back. Correct. And it's like, you have NBA players next to you. Whatever your dad doing, the money's rolling in. Your mom didn't have to work. Right. And so I just thought, I don't know where this animosity came from. You got to do everything you wanted to do. So occasionally she wanted you to wear a dress to church. I get being frustrated as a child, but as a grownup, You got to. You got to. You got to charge that to the game. I don't know. I don't get it.

Jordan: Yes, that's a good point. I think we do need to remember that these all these characters are super duper young in this movie, too. But they're like 17 between 17, like 24, pretty much the whole movie. So I don't know how mature I would have been at that point if I felt like I wasn't being supported in my dreams, although she was supporting her dreams.

Darius: Under what pretest would she feel that way though? What do you want them to do?

Jordan: I mean, I guess we don't know. I mean, I guess we don't know. Yeah, but I was going to say, I think that that's maybe what it was. Maybe that they weren't. They didn't visit her enough in Europe. I don't know. Yeah, I thought like her. I mean, her mom would say like. little things. But I mean, she wasn't malicious. She wasn't out to kill her dreams, you know, she wasn't the like the Tyler Perry mom who's like, I'll destroy her children, you know?

Darius: Well, yeah, Tyler Perry would have written it so over the top. She would have literally had devil's horn.

Jordan: He traded me for $10 in a fix.

Darius: Yeah, right. It was so bad. Can we be honest for a second?

Jordan: Yeah, what's up?

Darius: Let's play for your heart is corny as hell.

Jordan: Oh, of course.

Darius: That did not age well. I was a little cringe. This is ******* like what?

Jordan: That's how you know that this movie was written by a lady. I mean, I don't mean that in a bad way. Writer, director. She's actually great. She's made a lot of great stuff since this movie as well. Don't give her props. Sorry, go ahead.

Darius: I was going to say, I think, yeah, I was going to say, I think she's pretty successful, but that was just corny, man. And, you know, prom coms need a little corny, but that was like, man, this is, they literally were like keeping score. And it was a little cheesy. So it was a call back to the door when they were playing for close. But it was, right.

Jordan: Yeah, so Gina Prince by the Wood, that's her name. I want to make sure I got it right. She did Secret Life of Bees, The Woman King with Viola Davis, Beyond the Lights, and Disappearing Acts. So yeah, she's legit. Yeah, so okay, so women, a lot of women talk about this movie and they say it's a horror movie. And they usually reference the basketball scene because he beat her and then dunked at the end. And I think I think it literally was just like they were competitive and they were they, love basketball. So he was like, I'm going to beat you. So, I can beat you. Now I'm going to let you know I love you and I'm choosing you.

Darius: Got to establish that.

Jordan: Am I crazy?

Darius: I think we should probably phone a friend, a female. We're not going to, but I agree with you. But we're both men.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: You know, I would definitely win. Got established dominance. But why do they say it's a horror movie? That scene alone? Is there is there discourse that I missed?

Jordan: I mean, I think I mean, I think the way he acted, he treated her kind of like **** in college. He did a little bit, but they're 18. Who cares? I mean, who cares?

Darius: But they're 18, you know, jerk, a whiny man baby who had severe main character syndrome and could not understand, could not put himself in anyone else's shoes. It made his problems the whole world's problems. I understand that.

Jordan: Yes, he was very selfish. But there was never a point where I didn't think he loved her.

Darius: And also she still achieved every, she went to Europe and played for a championship. So it's not like.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: It would be a horror movie if she gave all that up to stay at USC with him and pop out babies.

Jordan: And became his wife and yeah.

Darius: It was actually kind of like, it's almost like a, and granted I'm a dude, but it felt a little feminist that she went and left. Yeah, I thought the same thing. And went to Europe and won a championship and came back and then made to the league. said, and then it ends with him clapping, watching her poop. And so. Exactly. to me, the message was, you can have your cake and eat it too, because Monica did.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: But again, I'm a dude, so I don't know.

Jordan: And chase your dreams first.

Darius: Yeah, she did everything. She checked all her boxes before she came back to his regions.

Jordan: Correct. And by the way, If we're going through the stack, she was better comparative to her competition than he was to his. Yeah, I mean, he's remember, he was coming off the bench when he got hurt. He was a scrub.

Darius: He was a scrub. And then he got hurt. And he was, I mean, he's just, he, yeah, he was, yeah, I'm with you. He's a scrub. So.

Jordan: Yeah, so I don't, I didn't really get, I don't really get it. I do. I think she loved him more than he loved her. You could make that case. Yeah. But they did love each other.

Darius: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. These things ebb and flow, sometimes.

Jordan: True.

Darius: These things ebb and flow. So, but it ends with him being stay at home daddy clapping, baking cookies while she goes to work playing basketball. So I'm not sure.

Jordan: Right.

Darius: If the wrong message was conveyed, even though I think that he was, he was not, he was not a great guy in college. So, but who amongst us was?

Jordan: Right, who at 18 was like, oh yeah, I'm ready to be a husband and a great, great boyfriend.

Darius: Yeah, like, I'm sorry, but if, not handling your first breakup well is a death sentence, then I'm out of here. Yeah, I'm glad there was no internet back then. Or that there wasn't Internet, but that.

Jordan: Yeah, we got to get people to grow. And yeah, that's why I don't do the digging up of tweets.

Darius: Like if you tweeted it when you were a teenager, I'm charging it all to the game. I don't care. If you had given me a Twitter or an Instagram account when I was 16 years old, ain't no telling what to be on there. So I have a full moratorium on anything said before the age of 18. I'm not doing it. So Beyond that, case by case basis, but if you are a teenager, you see them tweets from like 2015 and I look up and the dude's 22 today, charge that **** to the game. I don't care. Yeah. I just don't care what a 15 year old said on Twitter, you know? It doesn't.

Jordan: Right. It was probably just song lyrics that people didn't know.

Darius: You got any else Rag3?

Jordan: Yeah. I think that's all I have for act three. Okay. So have you ever played one-on-one for someone's heart? And if so, would you let them win?

Darius: No, I have not. And no, I w