Brown Sugar (2002)

Jordan: Hey everybody, welcome to the Alpha Trunk Pod with Jordan and Darius. My name is Jordan. You can find me on all socials at Jordy B Writing.

Darius: And I'm Darius. That's Deez. I love the area on all socials.

Jordan: And today we're going to be reviewing Brown Sugar for our movie review segment. This movie came out in 2002 starring Tay Diggs, Sanaa Lathan, Mos Def, Queen Latifah, Nicole Ari Parker, and Boris Kojo. Brown Sugar is about Dre and Sydney who've been best friends since childhood, bonded by their mutual love for hip-hop. As Dre navigates a corporate music career and Sydney edits a major magazine, they both struggle to realize that their perfect match might be the person standing right beside them. Shocking. So I'm gonna toss it to you for act one.

Darius: Act one, the roots of rhythm. Longtime friends, Dre and Sidney navigate their successful careers in the music industry. As Dre prepares for his wedding, they reflect on the day they both fell in love with hip hop. Let me just say there was, I counted it when it ended. There were 6 minutes of opening credits and that's a little long. The whole prologue, we had the credits running and you know, maybe tighten that up a little bit.

Jordan: That's funny.

Darius: That was like my first thing. I was like, damn, they're still showing people.

Jordan: No, it wasn't. It was pretty long. Well, you know what's crazy? Well, I watch a lot of old movies and those used to have like 5th, those opening credits used to be like 15, 20 minutes. So this, yeah, it's a little bit of call to old Hollywood. Also, this is actually written and co-written and directed by the same guy who did the wood.

Darius: Okay. They're similar. One West Coast, one East Coast, similar veins though.

Jordan: Yeah, kind of similar vibes.

Darius: Yeah. Boy meets girl, they pretend they're friends. They last a lifetime.

Jordan: Right. I want to know how the hell he got all those cameos in this movie. Like all the legendary rappers and **** in there. Like when he, when I, Dougie Fresh beatboxing, Rick, Rick, Slick Rick freestyling and ****. Be Daddy Kane, all the rappers talking in the intro. I thought that was pretty dope.

Darius: Tyler Kwali, Fabulous, had a cameo. Benny Siegel had a cameo. You know, this is, and I won't get on too much of A tangent. Before rap just became about getting a bag, there was much more of a collaborative nature to it. And so somebody hits up Big Daddy Kate and he's like, we're filming this movie and the topic is when did you fell in love with hip hop? That is enough for him because he just loves the art where if you called up, insert, You know, if you called a future with that, he'd be like, my fee is 70,000 and you would just, you just would get it. You know, I'm not trying to tell someone not to charge a fee. The bag of the game is the game. But like when you into when you in the studio with the attorneys and you write now legal paperwork, some of the art gets kind of shoved to the side. So right. When rap is just a hustle, we lose a little bit of the culture in that. And so I don't know how that, how we got there from that, but I think that's kind of watching the movie and you see, like, I don't think, you see what the budget wasn't there to pay these people for this. I just did it without the love and you just don't see that too much more in the game these days.

Jordan: So yeah, that's true. And also like just black artists collaborating across media forms, you know, like a lot of people don't know like Spike Lee had a hard time getting Malcolm X made. He was running out of money. And so he just hit up everybody that he knew. You know, Michael Jordan didn't, I think, didn't tell probably winning. You know, he, like a lot of people helped get that movie made, you know. We don't want to see a lot of that anymore across art forms. But yeah, so I want to start out by saying, so now Lathan is a generational beauty. And I just love watching her in anything. She has such, like her range is incredible. I feel like it's one of the most underrated parts about her career, because she can play like the adorable girl next door and then also be like the heartless ***** you know what I mean? In like the family that prays, you know what I'm saying? She's incredible and I just love watching her. She's magnetic on screen.

Darius: I concur, actually. For Valentine's Day, the movie theater I go to is running Love and Basketball tomorrow.

Jordan: Oh yeah, I saw that, yeah.

Darius: Four sessions, two before I get off of work. So might check her out. I have not seen, I mean, I've seen the movie, but I've never seen it on a big screen. So anytime they try to throw back a movie on the big screen.

Jordan: Yeah, I **** with that.

Darius: **** with that heavy. So shout out to Na Lathan, talented actress, beautiful woman. You said she could play the girl next door. Only in Hollywood is the woman that beautiful, the everyday girl.

Jordan: Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. Like, in love and basketball, she's like the. The ugly chick that was like, that was just there the whole time. And I'm like, Yeah.

Darius: Okay. To be fair, he didn't marry Tyra Banks in that movie, so.

Jordan: Oh, yeah, that's true.

Darius: You know, he was. He was doing okay for himself. And I think it wasn't a Gabriel. You took the prom in that movie. We own a whole different movie. Yeah. Yeah.

Jordan: Yeah. Yeah.

Darius: Yeah. On a hot dog is disgusting.

Jordan: That is. That is. That's a war crime.

Darius: I like mayo, but I'm not going to put it on a hot dog.

Jordan: That's maybe that's like some like LA ****. I don't know.

Darius: So bachelorette party. And listen, you know.

Jordan: Okay, we got to talk about that. Yeah, I thought the same thing.

Darius: I have a lot of female friends.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Let me just say, if we're super tight and you end up at my wife's bachelorette party, which is a little odd, don't be answering to get to know him questions fast.

Jordan: Yeah, shut the **** **. Yeah, shut the **** **. Don't answer the questions at all.

Darius: You're making the block hot, man.

Jordan: Yeah, bro. I literally, I wrote that down. I wrote bridal shower game because while she was supposed to throw the throw the answers, I'd have been like blue to everything.

Darius: How about don't attend? Can we do that?

Jordan: Well, that actually too, because she kind of walked into the wolves den on that one.

Darius: That was, that was weird, man. And she was lighting them answers up. McKellen 25, this song, that song.

Jordan: And it wasn't even that she just answered like the baseline level. She gave such detailed answers. It was like, you just told all her friends you were in love with the state. What is wrong with you?

Darius: Yeah, pretty much. So I guess that answers my question. Was she being intentionally messy? Clearly.

Jordan: She was stupid for sure. I wouldn't say intentionally messy because I don't think she knew what she, how she was coming across.

Darius: How old were these people in this movie?

Jordan: I think like late 20s.

Darius: It's always hard for me to contextualize because they were adults when the movie came out and I wasn't. So they always just seemed like adults, like brothers than me. But they very well could have been playing characters in their mid to late 20s. So what else you got, Frank?

Jordan: Yeah, so the hookup, not hookup, well, they just kind of may not, whatever, the little hookup they had before the wedding, the night before the wedding. I thought the only thing I wish that they had not done in that scene was they should, I feel like it would have been a little more potent if they had him like be kind of faded, because then you would kind of be like, oh, it was like a drunk slip up bachelor party night, like, you know, but he went over there in the daytime, stone cold sober.

Darius: He shot his shot. That was a carnal desire that he just had to, I don't think there was all that wrong with it. Like they accidentally kissed and their ******* fell out. And sometimes that happens the day before your wedding. It's not people take it to be so serious. Like, man, it ain't that deep. Sometimes you just the moment catches you and you accidentally kiss. And her ******* went out for like 2 seconds, and then he left. And so that way we could charge to the game. I think so.

Jordan: Yeah. And he wasn't married at the time.

Darius: You could stay married tomorrow, but I don't know. I just. I wouldn't invite.

Jordan: No, for sure. I would never. Yeah. It's funny. It's just this movie is like a testament to the. acting chops and just like the charisma of Sanaa and Tay Diggs because they both have played like super problematic people in movies and we never hate their characters.

Darius: Oh, I don't, what was problematic about that.

Jordan: Cheating before the night before a wedding.

Darius: They didn't cheat. They kissed for a couple seconds and her ***** fell out. They stopped.

Jordan: Okay, so do you, okay, do you define cheating as doing something that you would not do in front of your spouse or significant other?

Darius: I understand why someone else would define it that way. I just prefer to live in a little bit of gray.

Jordan: And so because he didn't put it in.

Darius: No, it's just he got caught up in the moment. The kiss was not even 10 seconds long. And he left. I'm going to go ahead. That's a that's not a flag. That's a personal foul. You get two shots. OK, that's not we not flager foul, not a one or two, no ejection, little personal foul, ball out the side.

Jordan: He does it. So the fact that he was in love with her, that doesn't make it worse.

Darius: I mean, that's a variable the bride doesn't have. So right. I'm just saying. Sometimes.

Jordan: No. Yeah. I mean, it's happened.

Darius: Cooler heads eventually prevailed. Yeah, right.

Jordan: That's true.

Darius: They didn't spend the night together. They snapped out of it. He even touched a *****. The ***** came out and he was like, this is a bad idea. And he left. And so cooler heads prevailed. No harm, no foul ball outside. I'm cool with that. That's not cheating. It's not exemplary behavior, but I wouldn't call it cheating.

Jordan: Okay. Interesting. Okay. So, okay, so what's your definition of cheating then?

Darius: My definition is fluid. Oh, okay.

Jordan: Is it non-binary too?

Darius: My definition is on the spectrum of realities, if you will. Sometimes, depending on the context, Some acts are unforgivable, but in a different context, those acts can be. It just depends. Because the night before his wedding, that's a very high stress time. He went and saw his female friend. He was probably on like a like just like sometimes you just things are just moving fast and they kissed and they stopped kissing.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: Charge that to the game. going to ask you the most cliche question that everyone who watches the movie asks anyone who's watched the movie. When did you fall in love with hip hop?

Jordan: The day I was born. No, I'm kidding. Probably, I guess the most clear, like, memory I have. I mean, obviously a group listen to my life, but I'd say hearing the college drop out for the first time.

Darius: Okay.

Jordan: I was 11. 11 years old, summer before spring of 6th grade, summer before 7th grade. And I think the first song I heard was either School Spirit or a New Workout Plan. And I just thought they were like the illest songs ever. They were like fun and catchy songs. Love the Beat, the Auto-Tune was I just always thought that was really cool, really cool art form to me. So with the samples of, at the end, I always loved that. And of course, the skits were incredible. We broke, broke, broke, broke. We ain't got it. Yes, that's probably, that's probably what I've, that was the first rap out my listen to cover to cover. So I would say that was probably the first time I fell in love with hip hop.

Darius: For me. So I remember driving in my dad's car. At the time, he was just dating my mom. The guy I call my dad is not like my biological father, but for all intents and purposes, he's my father. And he was listening to eight ball and MJGs on the outside looking in. And I just thought there's a song called Players Night Out and lay it down and I just remember in the most innocent voice asking him if I could say the N word. And he was like, yeah, but don't you dare tell your mom. And we just drove around listening to that and I could rap along and say the N word. And I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever experienced in my life. And so that was the day where, and then I just, from that point on, it was like, oh, I listened to it for ******* 10 years. I had to be like 7 or 8 years old. But A-Ball and MJG's album on the outside looking in. We listened to it on tape. And I think the first full album I listened to front to back was Tupac's All Eyes on Me. I would have to fact check that, but that sounds about right. So, yeah. So that's my answer.

Jordan: That's a good one.

Darius: Anything else for act one?

Jordan: That's all I got for act one.

Darius: Gonna hit act 2, scratching the surface. Dre grows disillusioned with his commercialized job and starts an independent label. Meanwhile, his marriage faces strain as he and Sidney realize their deep connection might transcend mere friendship and music. The song The Hoe is Mine, if we throw a Boss Mandelo feature on that, we got a hit. I'm just saying my man D-Lo could save that. I was like, I was listening to it and I was like, I could throw D-Lo on this right now. That's funny. And we could revive this and that would be the hottest song in 2027. D-Lo for the Super Bowl, 2027. Boss man D-Lo is doing the Super Bowl next year.

Jordan: I think America would have an even bigger fit than they did in the last two years.

Darius: I think his catalog is unimpeachable. 2024 to present day, no one's had a better run. Get that man a Super Bowl.

Jordan: No, I love his music. I love his music. Birdie with the left hand. Judas Random.

Darius: I just let Louie V. I'm cleaning this dove, baby. Hop out. I'm flyer than a dove, baby. See, he said cleaner than a dove soap flyer than a dove. The bird. That nice. I listen to him every single day. There are people. that I have actually stopped, asked me to stop sending them songs.

Jordan: I believe it. I believe it.

Darius: And then I cycle in new people who I send them songs and I could tell when they're getting sick of it. And then I just he's the best out right now.

Jordan: So he's he's he's he's cool. I like him.

Darius: What you got for act two?

Jordan: Act two. So okay, so he's he gets married. They go through with the wedding. The woman didn't for a few months. I think it's brought Shaka wedding, basically. In that situation, would you have stood up and said, I refuse?

Darius: So that goes back to my question. Well, no, I wouldn't have played. Like I said, some **** just got charged to the game. You didn't do anything, whatever. My question is, do wedding still do the who objects thing and why?

Jordan: Yeah, some weddings do. It's optional from what I hear. I hear you can take it out if you want to. But I've heard it at weddings. I've heard it and I've not heard it at weddings.

Darius: The only two people who can object are the people getting married. Who the **** cares when somebody in the crowd cares? I don't get it.

Jordan: And I've never seen in real life anyone be like, oh yeah, don't.

Darius: You will get dragged out. Don't do it. Right.

Jordan: What?

Darius: I don't. I've never understood it because I'm like, the only two people whose objections matter are the people getting married.

Jordan: And groom.

Darius: So like, it's my drunk uncle 30 rows deep is like, I don't think this should happen. **** are you?

Jordan: Yeah. I want to. I wonder if it's ever happened in real life. I mean, I'm sure it has been. I wonder if there's footage of it?

Darius: There's YouTube videos of like. you have to whiff through what's real and what's fake. But there's one that's really good where clearly like the groom's mistress pops up at the wedding. And she like, she interrupts the vows and she's just like, so this is what you left my house for this morning? Oh my God. Jesus. Damn. Yikes. You could see that it couldn't have been fake because you could see it in the groom's faces because they knew who that girl was. No, I'm sorry. You could see in the groom's men's faces.

Jordan: Groom's men's faces.

Darius: Because like, come on, man, they know who that girl is. They knew exactly who she was. They was like, oh.

Jordan: Is crazy.

Darius: No, that's funny.

Jordan: I was actually exactly a couple months back and somebody commented about like what's the crazy **** you've seen at weddings and there's threads of like thousands of comments of people being like yeah I've worked at wedding venues and **** like that all you know for a long time and they go they all so many people were like yeah I can't tell you how many times I've seen the bride sneak off with the the best man or the groom sneak off with the maid of honor and **** whatever, and then just go back to the wedding and nothing happened. I'm like, that's ******* crazy. I got a little bit of a tricky question here for you. Have you heard that theory that people tend to love, people actually love the side piece more than they love the main, like significant other?

Darius: I don't know if it's a theory, but I'm certainly Heard of heard of it. Yes, I've heard of it.

Jordan: Do you think it's real?

Darius: I mean, it just depends. A marriage is first and foremost a legal arrangement, right? And it's very, very, very recent in human evolution that people married for love, right? I mean, rewatching Game of Thrones, those are all political marriages, right? Correct. And so it doesn't strike me that millions, millions of years of evolution for marriage being one thing, still there's still some remnants of it. Like a lot of people, a lot of men and women marry for practical reasons and get there and find their passionate passion outside of the home. I remember reading Esther Perel's book on affairs. She's this renowned relationship therapist or whatever. And she hosts a podcast and she wrote a book about affairs. I think it's literally called The State of Affairs. And she has a section about the other women. And she tells a story about this woman who was a side piece, if you will, for this dude for like 40 years and like he died. And like the family didn't know about her. And like she's talking to her daughter and she's just like, you know, my mom's a widow who can't be a widow. You know, she's like, that was her life partner for 40 years, he just was married to someone else and like he's gone and she could, there's no closure. She can't go to the funeral. She doesn't get any spousal benefits. And, you know, but she was like that they were in love. That man loved my mom. But, you know, and so that was honestly one of the more profound chapters of the book was when she went into discussing the side pieces, if you will. So no, I mean, Nothing is universal, but it doesn't strike me as unusual that the affair would be more passionate than the logistics of day-to-day life, But again, also, it's like the Bridges of Madison County, another famous book about an affair. Everybody fun for three days, you know, Clint Eastwood shows up on your doorstep and you guys ****** for three days and then he leaves and you yearn for that your whole life. And it's like, well, you never had to do his laundry. Right. you never had to fix his lunch. You never had. You never seen him on a bad day. Right. he just throwed into town. he didn't age. He didn't. He never got a beer gun on you. He just this cowboy throws into town and sleep with him for three days. And then he goes off to the fair and you never see him again. But life is complicated. And that goes back to the act one section. What's an affair? Depends on the context. I don't mean that to be flippant. I was joking earlier, but I'm not one who deals with a lot of black and whites. And so it's entirely possible, in my opinion, to love your side piece more than your wife. And I don't think that automatically makes you a terrible person. It just depends on the context of whatever was going on. But I don't know if it's a theory as much as it's Just kind of how the things shake sometimes. So yeah.

Jordan: Interesting.

Darius: How about you?

Jordan: Believe in it? More so I would say, do I think they love them more in general? I'd probably say no. I think when I do, I really do believe different people do bring out different things in you and different aspects of your personality and your mind and things of that nature. I also believe you can love more than one person at a time. Not saying you should, but I do believe it's possible. And I do believe it happens more than people want to say out loud. Yeah, I mean, I think. I mean, okay, we've all dated casually and dated multiple people at one time. And maybe they were someone that you dated and you, the bulk of the relationship was you pouring into them. And then maybe you were dating someone else and they were pouring into you. And you kind of felt like maybe you needed that balance or, you know, you needed one to be able to do the other sort of thing. I've, you know, been in, I've been in that situation before. So I think it is, I mean, all this love **** is complicated. Like, there's no rules in ****. It is, it is, it is very new. It is all very gray. And even to your point about, you know, Marrying for Love is, I don't think people realize how new that of a concept that is.

Darius: It's not 50 years old. It's not 50 years old.

Jordan: I was going to say, yeah, women were not able to have their own bank accounts until 1975. So, and that doesn't mean that year they were financially stable. So they still were, they still were having to be with people that maybe they didn't want to be with or maybe they couldn't get away from, So, yes, I mean, that **** is tricky, dog. I mean, there's no real rules. I mean, there's no rules in this. I mean, there's laws, but there's no real rules in this ****. There's just kind of what you feel like you can do based on whatever options you have available.

Darius: Yeah, I mean, a lot of it in seldom is that, you know, a lot of men were willing to, were able to leverage financial stability in the dating marketplace in a way that's no longer as broad as it used to be. Now, obviously, it's still bold. No one wants to date someone who's completely out, you know, whatever. But it used to be you head down to the factory, get a job for life. And that basically came with the wife because they needed someone to work, you know, you know, and now you have to be likable in some way, shape or form. But, you know, talking about those grays, man, that's why when it comes to affairs and whether or not people leave when they find out, I'm always like, man, everybody's a hardliner when it's in theory, but when in practice and you built a life with this person and y'all got kids and a mortgage and y'all have shared friend groups and it's easy to say you blow all that up until you actually have to blow all that up. And everybody talks a big game. I don't judge people whatever they do. If you stay with the person that had an affair, if you leave, that's on your prerogative. But what I won't say is what I would do in your shoes because it's harder to untangle a life than you think. about how many married couples that are just basically one person now. And imagine having to disentangle the friend group alone to let's say nothing of, to go from, I believe it was Lil Rel, Lil Rel Howery, the comedian. He was like the hardest part of the divorce was just not having my kids in my home. I used to just, they were just there, was noise, there were my kids. And now it's like, when I miss my kids, I just can't go see them in the living room. I have to make plans to go pick them up or whatever. It's like, I can see why someone would look at that and then look at the disentangling of the finances and the mortgages and the friend groups. Let's have some, let's have some couples therapy. Let's see if we can make this work.

Jordan: You know, that's true. Cause I mean, think about it.

Darius: Like I see why someone would use that, you know?

Jordan: Like in our friend group, there was, you know, some intermingling and there were breakups and that changed the nature of the friend group. Like it got complicated, got hard to navigate.

Darius: So I don't know. That was just church and state.

Jordan: Yeah. And that was just people dating for a few months. Like it was not, you know what I'm saying? These weren't marriages. These weren't lifelong bonds. So I mean, I can't imagine having to sever off half of your social circle. people forget when you get married again, your spouse's family becomes your family. So you do have those relationships with your wife's siblings and cousins and parents and so on and so forth. That **** is tricky. And going from that rope point you made is very important because going from seeing a family member every day or every holiday or whenever you want to see them to not is a big transition that people, you're not used to it. There's no training wheels or manual for that kind of situation. I remember, you know, my parents are divorced, you know, they've only been divorced for like 2, three years, something like that. And that first Christmas, When I was an adult, and that first Christmas without my dad, that **** was devastating. You know what I'm saying? I couldn't imagine that as a kid, you know what I'm saying? Or, you know, as a parent having to like walk my children through that, you know?

Darius: Life **** is hard, man. And I could see why someone, male or woman or whatever, Looks at those two options and says, I'd rather just stay. I'd rather figure out what it was that led to this. And if they're willing to work on it and they're willing to be better, that's the best of two ****** options, you know? And sometimes a lot of people don't get choices. You don't get two choices. You get two ******. You don't get good choices. You got to pick the best of two ****** ones.

Jordan: And you do have to work at that ****. Like it's not. every day is not going to feel like a rom-com. You know what I'm saying? They're going to there are going to be years where most of the year sucks and they're going to be years where most of the year is great. Like you got to ride it all out to see, you know, to actually know what you have in your person anyway. You know, there's that too. Like I remember there's an interview I watched with Will Smith and Jada and they were talking about their relationship and they were saying around 15 years into that relationship, they're really struggling and they wouldn't talk to like, you know who Ruby Diaz, the older black actor? She passed away, but You've probably seen her stuff. Well, she talked, they wouldn't talk to like a significantly older person and ask them for like marriage advice. And she was like, how long have you been together? And they were like, 15 years. And she was like, oh, that's nothing. You don't even know each other yet. Like, and that's a crazy amount of perspective to have on a lifelong commitment.

Darius: I believe it was Ice-T that was like, he's been married like 20 something years and people come up to him and ask him for advice. He's like, I don't even know how to be married to my wife. I don't know how to be married to yours. Yes, exactly. I don't know. I can't give you no advice. I don't know to you. No, and then you'd be surprised, man. How many couples navigate that issue and you never know about it, you know? Every couple isn't for putting all their drama in different circles. So Real life is complicated and it's easy, very, very easy to say what you would or wouldn't do when you're, when it's not, when none of these decisions they know your part for you. Right. Yeah. So let's get into act three, man. Finding the perfect beat. Career shifts and personal revelations for a stray at Sydney to confront their true feelings. They must decide if they are willing to risk their lifelong friendship for a chance at love. And the third act is they fall in love, the end. Like, really, really goes on here. What you got for three?

Jordan: Well, one of my favorite scenes from the movie is the where he finds out about the affair and they go to the restaurant.

Darius: Yeah.

Jordan: And he meets Richard Lawson.

Darius: What a way to find out about an affair, too.

Jordan: Bro, that is crazy. actually, so this off the cuff, but do you think she just, I don't know how to word this. Do you think she cheated just because she was always going to cheat or do you think she cheated because that was a reaction to her insecurities about their friendship?

Darius: I think she was always going to cheat, but I don't, I think. I think she. She kind of knew, you know, you could look at the how they looked at each other and their inside jokes and their and their giggles. And you could, you know, that they're the type. She walks in the room and Andrea and Sydney stop talking, you know, and right.

Jordan: Yeah. Good job of hiding it at all.

Darius: No. And so. How many years you deal with that? I don't even I. Dre was checked out of that marriage from day one. Right. And so when he quit his job at the movie, the movie, the record label, record label went to Sydney first and ain't that weird?

Jordan: I gave him the money.

Darius: Right. And he gets home and he tells his wife, I quit my job. But I like you're the second person to find out today who actually found out was the woman I love. Like, you know, like, how is your wife the second person that isn't at work to find out you quit your job? Like, Because she's not the number one person in your life, And so correct. And I think she had an affair because she wanted to have an affair. She's an adult with agency. She can do what she wants to do. But yeah, it was not an unfounded skepticism that she had of their relationship.

Jordan: Clearly, if you watch the movie. So yeah, she was dead on. Yeah, that's the thing I think with this movie is like even a lot of rom-coms, honestly, is that, you root for the protagonist and you root for the boy and girl to get together because they're best friends and, they're meant to be together, but they cost like a lot of harm in the course of that journey. And they were specifically, like these two were really out of pocket. Remember we reviewed like what if there was like a couple scenes where they did some crazy ****. Other than that, it was pretty much normal. Like they're all over each other hugging and kissing and she's calling him baby. And like, you know what I'm saying? Like they were kind of moving kind of crazy in this movie. And I know like the wife's supposed to be the villain, but you do kind of empathize with her because she knows she's #2.

Darius: I've always felt that way. the classic sitcom scene where, the true love interrupts the wedding and then, you see a different world, the scene.

Jordan: Yeah.

Darius: And I'm just like, I've always felt for the guy who or a woman who gets lef